The 2021 Patriots' Preseason Camp

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Yeah, IDK. I like that he's out there competing though.
We won't know anything until the preseason games. Still hoping he continues to progress.
 

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Could we have a Mac, Stid, Hoyer QB room to start the season?
 

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Could we have a Mac, Stid, Hoyer QB room to start the season?
I sure hope so although I prefer we drop Hoyer too and just make him a coach.
 
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Could we have a Mac, Stid, Hoyer QB room to start the season?

BB truly likes Cam so even if it's not close my answer would be no UNLESS an opportunity arises on another team for Cam that Cam wants to go get. In that case I can see him traded for a bag of peanuts and a bottle of TB12 Electrolyte Supplement. Of course, injury is always a good excuse.

One thing I'm pretty sure about is that BB will go out of his way not to embarrass Cam Newton.
 
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From Jeff Howe

Story of the day​

Cam Newton went out on a high note as the team’s best quarterback. He completed 17 of 21 passes in competitive team drills and made quicker reads and more accurate throws than his previous pair of sessions when he was a combined 21 of 38 with an interception.

Newton targeted Kendrick Bourne (3 of 3), Sony Michel (1 of 1), J.J. Taylor (2 of 3), Devin Asiasi (0 of 1), James White (4 of 4), Isaiah Zuber (1 of 1), Tre Nixon (1 of 1), N’Keal Harry (2 of 3), Gunner Olszewski (0 of 1), Jakobi Meyers (1 of 1), Dalton Keene (1 of 1) and Troy Fumagalli (1 of 1).

Newton again went first in every rotation. In the opening seven-on-seven period, he hit Bourne on a hitch, Michel on an out route and Taylor on an out-and-in route before his bid for Asiasi was broken up by Kyle Dugger. Next in 11-on-11s, Newton hit White on a quick swing pass, Zuber on a hitch to the left and Nixon on a slant against a zone. In the following period, he found Harry, had his deep ball for Olszewski broken up by J.C. Jackson and connected with Taylor on an option route, though Dugger would have knocked Taylor’s head off in live action.

Later, Newton made a solid throw to Meyers on a deep in-cut, hit Bourne in a soft zone, White on a screen pass, Keene and Fumagalli on under routes and barely misfired to Taylor, who beat Adrian Phillips deep but the ball grazed off his fingers. In the final two-minute drill, Newton made a nice throw to White on a wheel route past Kyle Van Noy, quickly hit White in a soft spot of a zone, then Bourne on an out route. He was incomplete deep down the sideline to Harry on a forced shot play as they simulated time winding down before a field goal. Newton’s final pass was complete for Harry over the middle.

Overall, Newton’s only incompletions were on longer throws down the field, and one barely missed Taylor. Newton, who completed four checkdowns Monday, didn’t have any issues in that regard in the Wednesday camp finale. Newton also spent the day with the No. 1 offensive line, which helped a great deal, and this practice was more geared toward Newton working with the starters.

Mac Jones was 11 of 20 with an interception, but the numbers were deceiving. He was bitten by drops from Marvin Hall, Zuber and Bourne, and Olszewski would have caught a deep ball if he weren’t blatantly held by D’Angelo Ross. On another incompletion, Josh Uche recorded a quick “sack” and Jones fired one over Michel’s head by the left sideline in an apparent attempt to just get off a pass. And in the final two-minute drill, he took two designed shots – again, this was the coaches simulating a late-game situation where the offense had to force it down the field for a last-second kick – to Zuber, who couldn’t come up with either. Zuber’s drop was also during that sequence on a play that otherwise could have gone for a long touchdown.

Jones did have a couple misses. He was intercepted by Adrian Colbert on his final pass for Kristian Wilkerson. It’s unclear what happened, but Jones threw it directly to Colbert. Jones also had a chance to hit an open Wilkerson for a long gain up the right seam, but he threw it just a bit too far.

Jones’ numbers were poor, but his accuracy was largely on point. He opened the day with a beautiful touchdown pass to Wilkerson in the back of the end zone against double coverage then hit Hall on a similar throw, but Hall dropped it. In the next period, Jones checked to Keene when no one else was open, then felt backside pressure and rolled right to hit Zuber for an extended catch and run, and Jones closed the period with a slant to White against a zone.

A period later, Jones had a ball deflected at the line and caught by Michel. This was the third time in two days Jones bounced a ball at the line, so that’s something he’ll work to improve for training camp. He then hit White on a left out route before missing Olszewski, who would have drawn pass interference against Ross in live action.

In the next period, Jones would have been sacked in live action by yet another jailbreak against the backup offensive line. The play was allowed to go on, and he hit Gaffney. Jones then hit Ross on a terrific downfield ball on an over route. Bourne dropped the following pass – the only time on four minicamp attempts the pair failed to connect – then Jones missed Wilkerson, hit Keene on a drag route and threw over Michel’s head after another sack.

In the two-minute period, Jones hit Taylor on a slant against Ja’Whaun Bentley and made a terrific throw against a tight window to Olszewski before the final four incompletions.

Jones largely worked with the backup offensive line, which created issues with a handful of starting rushers on defense. And while the final stretch was rough, his last four incompletions went to receivers who might not make the team. Context matters in these practice settings.

That said, Jones threw a bad interception to close minicamp and will have to sit on that throw for the next six weeks. It was also his third pick in two days – all of them coming in the final periods of practice, including his last throw each day. There were six open practices during the offseason workout program, and the other three quarterbacks each only had one interception.

Jones’ accuracy continuously stood out in recent weeks, but he won’t beat out Newton in camp if the interceptions become a pattern.

Jarrett Stidham was third in the rotation in team drills and completed 10 of 14 passes with an interception. Brian Hoyer, who has essentially become the scout team quarterback, was 2 of 3 in his lone period of work.

Remaining notes​

N’Keal Harry hurt his calf at the end of Tuesday’s practice but was a full participant Wednesday and had another decent day with two catches from Newton. He looks leaner and maybe a little quicker.

• Tre Nixon caught a slant pass from Stidham and really exploded after the catch. He’s come as advertised with noticeable speed.

• Justin Bethel had an interception and a pass breakup. Kyle Dugger and J.C. Jackson each had a pass breakup.

Hunter Henry was consistently very good in the first two practices of minicamp but oddly wasn’t targeted Wednesday by any of the quarterbacks.

• Ronnie Perkins looks the part. If he plays like he practices, he’ll get plenty of opportunities in game action.

• It seemed like Joejuan Williams and Myles Bryant had a slight edge over Michael Jackson on Wednesday in the cornerback rotation.

• Steve Belichick again wore the headset on defense. Not sure if the Patriots will name a defensive coordinator this season, but the younger Belichick has been calling the plays in minicamp. Jerod Mayo has been running periods for the scout team defense and has maintained a very vocal presence on the field.


• In terms of execution, Newton and White didn’t have much on-field chemistry last season, but Newton was 7 of 7 when targeting White in minicamp.

• During a punt period, offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels had a meeting with the four quarterbacks.

• Stidham made a terrific throw to Ross on an over route. Ross had two long gains on that type of play.

• Jackson got beat for three completions – a hitch from Newton to Zuber, a deep in-cut from Newton to Meyers and a slant from Stidham to Bourne.

• Kicker Quinn Nordin again showed off his booming leg. When the kickers rotated from about 40 yards, Nordin blasted a ball way up into the screen about 10 yards behind the goal posts. And going toward the other direction from 42 yards, Nordin smoked a ball onto the roof of a one-story building about 15 yards behind the field. Nordin’s kicking strength is exceptional, though Nick Folk ($1.225 million guaranteed) has been paid to win the job. It’d be a surprise if there were any other outcome.

• Belichick saluted Ernie Adams’ final practice with the Patriots by huddling the team together at the end of the workout. The entire group loudly cheered for Adams several times. Adams announced his retirement following the draft.

Next up​

The Patriots’ offseason workout program is over. They report to training camp July 27, and the first practice is expected to be July 31. Fans will be permitted to attend training camp.


Expected inconsistencies from the 2 young QBs and steady progress from Cam in camp.
Lots to work on before reporting to camp July 27.
 

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If Bill feels he can replace you for a lower amount with 2 players or whatever he will. That has kept the team competitive for 20 years. This blindly paying a player that some teams do has it's issues. It's almost money ballish...players can continue to play here, but if they want to cash out, sometimes it's best if they do that elsewhere
They can go get a real nice package with nice up front money then year 2 or three in the team thinks it's too much money, and Bill
can bring him back at reasonable pay.
 

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They can go get a real nice package with nice up front money then year 2 or three in the team thinks it's too much money, and Bill
can bring him back at reasonable pay.
Exactly right, and this has obviously happened a few times. Its a process that has worked. Now that does not mean Bill will not pay top dollar for certain players. Wilfork, Brady, Moss, and some others, but again, it was about being able to get
another player in that could offer a good replacement for less money. The cap when it came about ruined a few teams who have struggled trying to get their heads wrapped around it. Cowboys for example have not won since the cap was put in back in the mid 90's. Belichick has mastered the art of the cap and getting the most player value. Sometimes that notion of getting two players to replace one for less cost is a great option and also adds depth which the team has usually had every year.
 

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BB has been very committed to Cam. It’s because he’s checking the liberal BLM box so he doesn’t get shredded by all the white espn communist anchors who substitute racial division for legitimate policy discussions. BB is savy I’ll give him that.
It’s just a few down seasons when the team isn’t going anywhere anyway, plus Cams got a damn good attitude.
Now history, and woke media can’t call him racist, and yes if protecting cam weren’t in BBs resume they would try. He also knows his commitment to Cam buys him a lot of credibility with players around the the league.
 
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BB has been very committed to Cam. It’s because he’s checking the liberal BLM box so he doesn’t get shredded by all the white espn communist anchors who substitute racial division for legitimate policy discussions. BB is savy I’ll give him that.
It’s just a few down seasons when the team isn’t going anywhere anyway, plus Cams got a damn good attitude.
Now history, and woke media can’t call him racist, and yes if protecting cam weren’t in BBs resume they would try. He also knows his commitment to Cam buys him a lot of credibility with players around the the league.
i'm pretty sure bb does NOTHING so that media won't shred him.
 

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BB has been very committed to Cam. It’s because he’s checking the liberal BLM box so he doesn’t get shredded by all the white espn communist anchors who substitute racial division for legitimate policy discussions. BB is savy I’ll give him that.
It’s just a few down seasons when the team isn’t going anywhere anyway, plus Cams got a damn good attitude.
Now history, and woke media can’t call him racist, and yes if protecting cam weren’t in BBs resume they would try. He also knows his commitment to Cam buys him a lot of credibility with players around the the league.

If you believe that, you're tripping!!
 
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BB has been very committed to Cam. It’s because he’s checking the liberal BLM box so he doesn’t get shredded by all the white espn communist anchors who substitute racial division for legitimate policy discussions. BB is savy I’ll give him that.
It’s just a few down seasons when the team isn’t going anywhere anyway, plus Cams got a damn good attitude.
Now history, and woke media can’t call him racist, and yes if protecting cam weren’t in BBs resume they would try. He also knows his commitment to Cam buys him a lot of credibility with players around the the league.

Your 2nd sentence says way more about you than what you intended it to say about BB.
Thanks for that. Now I know where you're coming from and how much weight to put on your opinions.
 

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Your 2nd sentence says way more about you than what you intended it to say about BB.
Thanks for that. Now I know where you're coming from and how much weight to put on your opinions.
He's a troll. That posts nothing but hate filled negative comments.
 
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Jeff Howe tells us what he makes of the QB competition after watching minicamp

What’s next​

Newton went out with his best practice of the spring while Jones’ final throw was intercepted in each of his last two practices. He’ll be chewing on that for six weeks.

But this will never be about one practice. Jones wasn’t going to overtake Newton with two great days in minicamp, just like Newton wasn’t going to squash Jones’ chances with one terrific workout to close the spring.

The entire body of work – all 13 offseason practices – will give the coaches the necessary information to bring to training camp. As Belichick often said, this stretch was more about teaching than anything else. Now that Newton and Jones have the information, they’ve got to show in August what they can do with it.

Newton will likely win the job if he handles his business. If he performs for large stretches of training camp and the preseason like he did Wednesday, he’ll be just fine. However, if the accuracy sputters, the door will open far wider for Jones.

That’s why, again, the biggest takeaway from the past month is Jones can’t be ignored. If he maintains this trajectory, he’ll push Newton unlike any quarterback before. Now that training camp and the preseason are back to relative normalcy, Newton and Jones will have to perform day after day for a month. The highs and lows will even out. The more consistent quarterback over an extensive, grinding stretch will win the job.

For Jones, the biggest factor will be turnovers, and this is something Stidham learned last year. Stidham opened training camp by completing 14 of 15 passes. A day later, he threw three interceptions (his only three incompletions), then two more in the third practice and another pair in the fourth. It doesn’t matter how much the accuracy pops or how nice the completions look if the misfires go the other way.

Newton and Jones are expected to work with their respective throwing coaches over the next month and a half, which is the standard for each maniacally invested quarterback. Newton’s objective will be mechanical to improve accuracy, while Jones will continue to devour the playbook.

Last year at this time when Alabama and the college football world were shut down due to COVID-19 protocols, Jones prepared for his upcoming quarterback competition with superstar recruit Bryce Young by waking up at 5:30 a.m. to study film, spending late nights at the Crimson Tide’s facility throwing into nets around a gym and teaching the playbook to his girlfriend so she could call out plays and he could shout back the checks at the line of scrimmage.

Both Newton and Jones will be supremely dedicated to winning the job.
Judging by the past few weeks, the late-summer competition will feature two capable candidates.


Poor Stidham...left out again.
 
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