The 2021 Patriots' Preseason Camp

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BB has been very committed to Cam. It’s because he’s checking the liberal BLM box so he doesn’t get shredded by all the white espn communist anchors who substitute racial division for legitimate policy discussions. BB is savy I’ll give him that.
It’s just a few down seasons when the team isn’t going anywhere anyway, plus Cams got a damn good attitude.
Now history, and woke media can’t call him racist, and yes if protecting cam weren’t in BBs resume they would try. He also knows his commitment to Cam buys him a lot of credibility with players around the the league.

I mean the other stuff was bad but this is just ridiculous. Keep this out of this forum.
 

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I think the OTA/MiniCamp QB competition was won by the Patriots.

Nothing has been settled, but it seems like all 4 guys did at least as well as we hoped or better.

In six weeks we get to start watching these guys for ourselves to a much greater extent and I hope it
is a 3-way race with intense competition all around.

As an aside, I'm glad that Mac ended his last two sessions with INTs because that'll humble him and
Cam has hung on to the impression, at least, that he will win the job. I'll call that an ideal scenario, with
Stidham making them both look back over their shoulders. Let the best QB win. It's going to be one hell
of a Training Camp and the coverage and interest focused on Foxboro will most definitely be intense.

I've been watching the Pats for almost 60 years and can't recall a more compelling, exciting scenario for
preseason.

This is going to be fun.
 

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I hope BB basically redshirts Jones. Let him spend the year as 3rd string QB. Learning the system . Certain People need to accept the fact Newton Is Starter this year.
 

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I hope BB basically redshirts Jones. Let him spend the year as 3rd string QB. Learning the system . Certain People need to accept the fact Newton Is Starter this year.
Why? Are you worried that starting Jones this year would somehow damage him? The rest of the team is in pretty damn good shape and I'd hate to waste a year of rookie contracts and a well-built team with a starter such as cam Newton that we simply cannot win the Super Bowl with. If we're going to waste a year let's do it getting Mac ready on the field. He has what he needs between the art to get it I think. Cam does too, but is not the same anymore.
 

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Why? Are you worried that starting Jones this year would somehow damage him? The rest of the team is in pretty damn good shape and I'd hate to waste a year of rookie contracts and a well-built team with a starter such as cam Newton that we simply cannot win the Super Bowl with. If we're going to waste a year let's do it getting Mac ready on the field. He has what he needs between the art to get it I think. Cam does too, but is not the same anymore.
This. I would rather go 5-12 with Jones this year and watch him learn and develop than go 8-9 or 9-8 with Cam. Let's get Jones rolling. He certainly seems like a guy that can handle the pressure of starting as a rookie and thrive with the expectations.
 

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Why? Are you worried that starting Jones this year would somehow damage him? The rest of the team is in pretty damn good shape and I'd hate to waste a year of rookie contracts and a well-built team with a starter such as cam Newton that we simply cannot win the Super Bowl with. If we're going to waste a year let's do it getting Mac ready on the field. He has what he needs between the art to get it I think. Cam does too, but is not the same anymore.
I'm with this, its not like he is going to the Jets or something, if there was a team to go to that is pretty well setup for a rookie to learn as he goes and not get killed this is it.
 

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Why? Are you worried that starting Jones this year would somehow damage him? The rest of the team is in pretty damn good shape and I'd hate to waste a year of rookie contracts and a well-built team with a starter such as cam Newton that we simply cannot win the Super Bowl with. If we're going to waste a year let's do it getting Mac ready on the field. He has what he needs between the art to get it I think. Cam does too, but is not the same anymore.
If moves were made based off hatred. Cam, BB & Harry would already been gone :coffee:
BB has already named Newton the starter. Unlike last year he much improved offense. The excuses are over if he struggles again.
 

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If moves were made based off hatred. Cam, BB & Harry would already been gone :coffee:
BB has already named Newton the starter. Unlike last year he much improved offense. The excuses are over if he struggles again.
I wouldn't describe what Bill has said as naming Cam the starter, but more like Cam is the man until he's not.
 

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If moves were made based off hatred. Cam, BB & Harry would already been gone :coffee:
BB has already named Newton the starter. Unlike last year he much improved offense. The excuses are over if he struggles again.
I have no dog in the race or hatred discussions over here in the main forum. My point on the QB's is 100% based on what I think is best for the team.

Mac Jones has a chance to be the FUTURE of the team. While my opinion of Cam has improved massively as a person ( I really disliked his pressers w the Panthers) and a leader ( I was way wrong, he is one) I don't believe he is the future. I am a little like a little kid and I want my future team as fast as I can get it.
 

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I have no dog in the race or hatred discussions over here in the main forum. My point on the QB's is 100% based on what I think is best for the team.

Mac Jones has a chance to be the FUTURE of the team. While my opinion of Cam has improved massively as a person ( I really disliked his pressers w the Panthers) and a leader ( I was way wrong, he is one) I don't believe he is the future. I am a little like a little kid and I want my future team as fast as I can get it.
He is the future. He would be better served learning the system & Playbook on sidelines. Something BB has done with certain Rookies . Newton is just a Bridge QB for this season. BB did address the passing game in first 2 days of FA. Bring in 2 top rated TEs Smith ,& Henry . Which were his favorite Targets in Caroline.
 
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He is the future. He would be better served learning the system & Playbook on sidelines. Something BB has done with certain. Rookies . Newton is just a Bridge QB for this season. BB did address the passing game in first 2 days of FA. Bring in 2 top rated TEs Smith ,& Henry . Which were his favorite Targets in Caroline.
I see your point and recognize that you very well could be correct.
 

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I think if Mac shows his play is best for the team, then he should start. I am not sure Cam has built some invincibility of getting the benefit of the doubt. If he cannot beat out Mac, then I do not see a reason for him to start over him. Plenty rookie QB's have came in and started and been just fine. Its really up to that QB and how he can handle things. Now if Bill decides to do this or not do this, he knows more about the situation than I do or any of us, so I will assume he has the best interest of things involved until proven otherwise. So yes as aloyouis said. I would rather get better quicker and I would hate to lose games because a better player is on the bench than the one starting. What I don't want is for Bill to play Cam because he feels he is obligated to, because he shouldnt be, and never has done things like that before.
 

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This. I would rather go 5-12 with Jones this year and watch him learn and develop than go 8-9 or 9-8 with Cam. Let's get Jones rolling. He certainly seems like a guy that can handle the pressure of starting as a rookie and thrive with the expectations.
That's purely because you'd rather see Belichick go 5-12 rather than 8-9 or 9-8. The QB playing in any of those scenarios mean ZERO to you and your other 2 trolls. As Giardi, Curran and Perry have said this week, the Patriots will very likely be a playoff team regardless of who's playing QB. They're not going 5-12, 8-9 or 9-8. Wishful thinking on the part of The Tiresome Threesome.
 
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That's purely because you'd rather see Belichick go 5-12 rather than 8-9 or 9-8. The QB playing in any of those scenarios mean ZERO to you and your other 2 trolls. As Giardi, Curran and Perry have said this week, the Patriots will very likely be a playoff team regardless of who's playing QB. They're not going 5-12, 8-9 or 9-8. Wishful thinking on the part of The Tiresome Threesome.
Speaking of tiresome. Can you stick to things I actually say? I'm thinking that wanting the best QB to start does not mean wanting the pats to lose. Seems logical but then, you just keep saying it. If someone wants the best players to start for the pats how does that mean they want them to lose? I know I know logic, it escapes some
 

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Speaking of tiresome. Can you stick to things I actually say? I'm thinking that wanting the best QB to start does not mean wanting the pats to lose. Seems logical but then, you just keep saying it. If someone wants the best players to start for the pats how does that mean they want them to lose? I know I know logic, it escapes some
Stick to things you actually say? I wasn't responding to you! Honest!y, and I'm not trying to be a wiseass here (god knows I can be sometimes), but do you have a reading/processing problem? This isn't the first time you've directly responded to a post of mine that was a direct response to someone else. For crissakes, you indicating that logic escapes some people is like having Kyrie Irving teach a college level course on the solar system. Jesus...
 

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Stick to things you actually say? I wasn't responding to you! Honest!y, and I'm not trying to be a wiseass here (god knows I can be sometimes), but do you have a reading/processing problem? This isn't the first time you've directly responded to a post of mine that was a direct response to someone else. For crissakes, you indicating that logic escapes some people is like having Kyrie Irving teach a college level course on the solar system. Jesus...
All I saw was blah blah blah...you should just copy and paste it.
 

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Of course all you saw was blah, blah, blah because,as I indicated earlier, you can't f###### read...
Teams figure out who's the best in TC. Jones will have opportunity to win backup Role with a big TC & Preseason. I have already explained the reasons. To not play him this season. Offensive Rookies don’t have best success rate their first season here.
 
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Teams figure out who's the best in TC. Jones will have opportunity to win backup Role with a big TC & Preseason. I have already explained the reasons. To not play him this season. Offensive Rookies don’t have best success rate their first season here.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I didn't address anything to which you refer above.
 
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