Will the Colts go 0-4?

[Jaric]

If it's been all Manning, like, in this case, ALL Manning...Irsay didn't pay him nearly enough.

That's what it appears.

I mean, he goes down, and we just completely shit our pants. None of it makes sense.

And in 3 weeks, I get to try and figure out what the **** the sweater vest is doing up in the booth when he comes back from suspension. As if this season didn't present me with enough ****ing imponderables.

 

[TommyD420]

That's what it appears.

I mean, he goes down, and we just completely shit our pants. None of it makes sense.

And in 3 weeks, I get to try and figure out what the **** the sweater vest is doing up in the booth when he comes back from suspension. As if this season didn't present me with enough ****ing imponderables.

I assume he's not there to give the players $100 handshakes.

I assume.

 

[cka203]

That's what it appears.

I mean, he goes down, and we just completely shit our pants. None of it makes sense.

And in 3 weeks, I get to try and figure out what the **** the sweater vest is doing up in the booth when he comes back from suspension. As if this season didn't present me with enough ****ing imponderables.

Word!

Wtf is goin on?! I have no clue!

 

[Jaric]

I assume he's not there to give the players $100 handshakes.

I assume.

Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming he's our coach next year (or mid year if shit really hits the fan)

But then again, I don't think they fire Caldwell. If they won't cut Hughes and Brown why would I think they fire Caldwell? But why the **** else would they just hire him out of the blue. I think they said they want him looking at replays.

...

Replays? Forserious? With the new changes to how all scoring plays are reviewed by the officials it makes the need to hire a recently resigned successful college head coach to watch film while the games are playing. A "special consultant?" Might as well have Caldwell show him where his office is and how the headsets work.

I don't know. They have the feel of a organization panicking. Like the giant elephant in the room got spooked and now we all have to deal with it. The horror of realizing there is no back up plan. You're right Tommy, he was underpaid. He could have asked for half the salary cap and they'd have given it to him.

At the same time though, I'm trying to make sure not to overreact. I don't want to be that guy who freaks out the first sign of trouble. But at the same time, many of the things I've been bitching about (the way the team was built) are now being exposed and it concerns me that I may have been right.

Sometimes as a fan it's good to be wrong you know?

EDIT: But on the other hand, I'll give you 10k casino cash if you can guess what college our newly signed DB came from.

 

[Jaric]

Word!

Wtf is goin on?! I have no clue!

We're either incompetent or tanking it and trying to hide it. I'm hoping it's the latter.

Lot of dead weight that needs to be shaken free. Next year should be a "rebuilding year."

 

[TommyD420]

Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming he's our coach next year (or mid year if shit really hits the fan)

But then again, I don't think they fire Caldwell. If they won't cut Hughes and Brown why would I think they fire Caldwell? But why the **** else would they just hire him out of the blue. I think they said they want him looking at replays.

...

Replays? Forserious? With the new changes to how all scoring plays are reviewed by the officials it makes the need to hire a recently resigned successful college head coach to watch film while the games are playing. A "special consultant?" Might as well have Caldwell show him where his office is and how the headsets work.

I don't know. They have the feel of a organization panicking. Like the giant elephant in the room got spooked and now we all have to deal with it. The horror of realizing there is no back up plan. You're right Tommy, he was underpaid. He could have asked for half the salary cap and they'd have given it to him.

At the same time though, I'm trying to make sure not to overreact. I don't want to be that guy who freaks out the first sign of trouble. But at the same time, many of the things I've been bitching about (the way the team was built) are now being exposed and it concerns me that I may have been right.

Sometimes as a fan it's good to be wrong you know?

I find it hard to believe that you couldn't do any better than Jim Tressel as an NFL head Coach, for that matter.

My contention is, and has always been, in football, one player should not a team make.

Now, I don't know who started the idea that "Peyton Manning is the Entire Team" - but they need to be drawn and quartered immediately. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in personnel decisions. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in hiring coaches. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in the day to day operations of the team. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't a defensive or special teams coach.

Again, "we think" means, if he was, he was grossly underpaid. If he wasn't, someone's got to answer for what appears (from the outside, granted) to be a total collapse of what was thought to be one of the NFL's most stable franchises. And I think it has to start at the top. Unfortunately, trying to hold Jim Irsay accountable is going to be equivalent to reading the lyrics to "Dark Side of the Moon". Actually, it might be exactly that.

 

[Jaric]

Now, I don't know who started the idea that "Peyton Manning is the Entire Team" - but they need to be drawn and quartered immediately. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in personnel decisions. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in hiring coaches. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't involved in the day to day operations of the team. Peyton Manning (we think) wasn't a defensive or special teams coach.

I know, it's nonsense. I don't believe it. But at the same time, it explains everything so nicely.

I need a bigger sample size. It's too early to try to make any serious judgements about where this team will be and what the future looks like.

However, do you guys now kinda get why I've always been hesitant to be too critical of Manning?

 

[TommyD420]

I know, it's nonsense. I don't believe it. But at the same time, it explains everything so nicely.

I need a bigger sample size. It's too early to try to make any serious judgements about where this team will be and what the future looks like.

However, do you guys now kinda get why I've always been hesitant to be too critical of Manning?

In case one day he wakes up and unilaterally decides to move "his team" to Los Angeles?

 

[Jaric]

I find it hard to believe that you couldn't do any better than Jim Tressel as an NFL head Coach, for that matter.

Of available candidates, who would you pick (if you were me of course)

My first instinct is Cowher. Fisher would be also at the top of my list. He's a good coach, he was just at the same organization for too long. And he never had a decent quarterback. That's not a problem.

But then again, I love Cowher style of football. I think he knows what he's doing too. Not perfect. But no coach is without fault. (even BB)

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Apparently Manning ran the front office as well.

We went from a completely stable franchise to a half sunken ship steered by monkeys who can't seem to find the bilge pump. All in a span of about a month.

So we cut a guy who was actually contributing (somewhat at least) for a 5th rounder who couldn't make the 0-3 rebuilding rams roster. Meanwhile, Donald Brown, Jerry Hughes, and Anthony Gonzalez are still allowed to collect paychecks.

The only way this makes sense is if it's an act to make people believe we're not tanking the season for Luck, we're just incompetent. Like Bruce Wayne acts silly so people don't know he's Batman.

That, or it's all been Manning.

So much sig material here!:LOL:

No really. BB should be walking past Krafty's office every day with the sports section on the Indy Corn & Farm report muttering to himself "Ha! Look what that blowhard Polian has done now! I should be pulling in triple what that doosh gets!"

Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming he's our coach next year (or mid year if shit really hits the fan)

But then again, I don't think they fire Caldwell. If they won't cut Hughes and Brown why would I think they fire Caldwell? But why the **** else would they just hire him out of the blue. I think they said they want him looking at replays.

...

Replays? Forserious? With the new changes to how all scoring plays are reviewed by the officials it makes the need to hire a recently resigned successful college head coach to watch film while the games are playing. A "special consultant?" Might as well have Caldwell show him where his office is and how the headsets work.

I don't know. They have the feel of a organization panicking. Like the giant elephant in the room got spooked and now we all have to deal with it. The horror of realizing there is no back up plan. You're right Tommy, he was underpaid. He could have asked for half the salary cap and they'd have given it to him.

At the same time though, I'm trying to make sure not to overreact. I don't want to be that guy who freaks out the first sign of trouble. But at the same time, many of the things I've been bitching about (the way the team was built) are now being exposed and it concerns me that I may have been right.

Sometimes as a fan it's good to be wrong you know?

EDIT: But on the other hand, I'll give you 10k casino cash if you can guess what college our newly signed DB came from.

Haven't you watched any of your games? Those things clearly don't work. Nothing but white noise layered like an onion over some faint Benedictine monk chanting, thus Caldwells catatonic gaze.

 

[Jaric]

In case one day he wakes up and unilaterally decides to move "his team" to Los Angeles?

Heh, no. He'd be moving it to Knoxville.

 

[TommyD420]

Of available candidates, who would you pick (if you were me of course)

My first instinct is Cowher. Fisher would be also at the top of my list. He's a good coach, he was just at the same organization for too long. And he never had a decent quarterback. That's not a problem.

But then again, I love Cowher style of football. I think he knows what he's doing too. Not perfect. But no coach is without fault. (even BB)

I would take Cowher before Fisher - mostly because I think Fisher is batshit crazy.

And I guarantee you one thing. One player will not determine the fate of a franchise if Cowher is the coach.

 

[Jaric]

Haven't you watched any of your games? Those things clearly don't work. Nothing but white noise layered like an onion over some faint Benedictine monk chanting, thus Caldwells catatonic gaze.

I was warned about this from Wake Forest fans.

 

[Michigan Dave]

Hoyer for Freeney. Straight up.

 

[Michigan Dave]

I was warned about this from Wake Forest fans.

I call lore.

 

[Jaric]

I call lore.

There were two.

 

[Kid Leo]

We're either incompetent or tanking it and trying to hide it. I'm hoping it's the latter.

Lot of dead weight that needs to be shaken free. Next year should be a "rebuilding year."

I can't believe Polian cut Tryon in favor of Lacey Tryon isn't an all pro by any means but Lacey flat out sucks. It now very obvious that Caldwell has zero say in roster moves of any kind. So the.colts can forget about guys like Cowher or Fisher because they will never be a puppet for Polian. The dude has offically lost his frigging mind.
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[ParanoidPatriot]

I was going ot bring up my own pole for this, but jaric beat my pole.
I voted yes and yes.

No team has gone 0-11 and made the playoffs.

 

[Claremonster]

Colts to start Curtis Painter at QB

INDIANAPOLIS -- Curtis Painter will make his first NFL start at quarterback for the Colts at Tampa Bay on Monday night.

Kerry Collins is still recovering after suffering concussion-like symptoms last Sunday against Pittsburgh, and his status is uncertain for Monday's game.

The winless Colts had been preparing Painter to start in case Collins couldn't go and Peyton Manning out until at least December as he recovers from neck surgery.

"You can really only get one ready, just in terms of the amount of time you have and the time you get on the field," Colts coach Jim Caldwell said Friday. "It's very difficult to get two guys prepared to play a ballgame. He's (Painter) getting all of the work and I think he'll benefit from that."

Caldwell said Painter is looking forward to the opportunity.

"He's pretty excited about that, there's no question about it," Caldwell said. "You can see it. He's always pretty levelheaded, never too high, never too low, but you can certainly see the focus and intensity in his eyes."

Caldwell said Collins would not practice Friday, and he will be evaluated on Saturday.

"At this point, there's two days of practice missed, and some pretty important stuff that we put in. It's tough to reclaim that at this point," he said. "We'll see how his evaluation goes, but Curtis will end up starting the game."

Painter has mostly struggled during his three years with the team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...curtis-painter-monday-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers

 

[cka203]

I can't even stand to LOOK at Painter!