***The Officially Official Training Camp 2013 Thread (Officially)***

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Oswlek said:
I'm fairly certain I saw it mentioned yesterday or the day before that Armstead made an appearance.
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You are correct he was here a couple days ago standing on the sideline.
 
Just watched today's clips from last day of TC on patriots.com and have the following remark: Anybody who says BB is a cold-hearted bastid can eat dirt and screw themselves blind as they have obviously not witnessed how very kind, gentle and warm a man he was with the Make-A-Wish kid there at the end of practice. BB loathes and scorns the press and makes no effort to hide it - that doesn't mean he's not a 100% decent human being.

My $0.02.

:pat:
 
Training camp video Aug 14 2013

Training Camp video from August 14, 2013. last one of the season for me. Includes a bad angle shot from some distance of Brady's injury.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ye72jsE93TA
 
OccamsRazor said:
Training Camp video from August 14, 2013. last one of the season for me. Includes a bad angle shot from some distance of Brady's injury.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ye72jsE93TA
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Here's the link. This is a really good video for both content and quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye72jsE93TA

1v1s start at 8:55 mark
Tebow has a couple of nice TD throws.

It shows 2 big issues with punter Allen: 1. He has a punt blocked (bc he takes 0.10 sec more than Mesko to get the kick off compared to Mesko's, [1.2 vs 1.1]) and 2. He out kicks his coverage. Nick Underhill says he's averaging 54 yd/punt while Mesko is 44 yds/punt. He thinks Allen has fallen behind a tad bc of the 2 things above.
 
  • Finally the Buccaneers come to the practice field. In one on ones against the Tampa defensive backs, Kenbrell Thompkins and Julian Edelman were the top performers. Both had good separation and made a few great catches. Brady and Tebow were the QBs. On the other side, Mallett was passing to the tight ends against Tampa safeties/linebackers. Every other rep was a blitz pickup drill for Patriots running backs. Leon Washington got popped and driven back several yards. Ballard was and Sudfeld were up and down in the drill. Ballard made a couple nice grabs, but other times could not get any separation.
  • In 7-on-7 drills, Brady and company started off great. Brady had completions to Amendola, Boyce,Edelman, Thompkins, and Dobson respectively to start. Thompkins had the best grab of the period. Brady was then a little high for Sudfeld but went back to him next play for a completion.
  • Mallett went 3-3 from what I could see. Tebow was 2-2.
  • A special teams period was next. The Patriots had a punt blocked and a botched hold in the period. Also, the Patriots gunners were getting abused. Tampa Bay was definitely the better team there. When the Patriots went punt return, Edelman, Washington, Amendola and Thompkins rotated to return. Amendola had the lone muffed punt. Patriots punt return team looked ok.
  • In the 11-11 period, Brady started out with 4-5 with completions to Amendola three times, and Edelman. Mallett dumped off to Bolden, then lofted and absolutely awful wobbly pass down the sideline incomplete. He then went to Thompkins who made an impressive catch.
  • As for the defense, overall they were not bad at all in 11-11. The defensive backs had some nice plays. Talib and Ryan had pick-6s. Gregory, Arrington and A. Wilson had nice pass breakups. There were few if any deep passed allowed, mostly just dump offs from Freeman. Looked like there would’ve been several sacks if it were a real game. Also seemed like they disguised coverages. For example on some plays Harmon lined up as the single high safety and Gregory or A Wilson lined up in the box showing Cover 1 or 3, only for the SS to drop back and give a Cover 2 look.
  • Starters were Ninkovich-Kelly-Wilfork-Jones. Mayo-Spikes-Hightower Talib-A.Wilson-Gregory-Arrington. Did not see much of McCourty(still had red jersey) Dennard, T Wilson or Collins. Harmon got some significant reps. Looks like he rotated with first team and got second team reps. Patriots played a good amount of man coverage. Gregory got more reps then I expected. Looked ok. The defense forced a couple 4 and outs. Spikes may have blown a coverage pretty bad. Vincent Jackson had a catch next to him, Mayo may have said a few words to him after the play about it.
  • After Brady left, Mallett took over the first team offense. In the 2-minute drill he was ok, with completions to Sudfeld, Boyce, Amendola and Dobson, but faltered a bit towards the end.
  • Tebow by my count was 3-7 in the first 2 minute drill he ran. Had a nice pass to Sudfeld down the seam, and a beautiful pass and even more impressive catch for a touchdown by Edelman. He didn’t look very indecisive, but some plays were bad. He scrambled on one play, locked into Edelman and almost had it picked. Seemed to throw a lot to Edelman and Sims.
  • No read option from Tebow. Ran out of the shotgun and even some I formation. Tebow took all the opportunity session reps. There was a good amount of run plays during it. A good amount of I formation.
  • Top players:
  • Julian Edelman, looked good in punt returns, had separation in his routes and showed strong hands throughout Indy, 1-on-1s, 7-on7s, and 11-on-11s. The catch in the end zone from Tebow was remarkable.
  • Kenbrell Thompkins, Caught everything. Great hands catcher, gets the front of the football. Routes looked good. Looked like he was open on several additional plays where he wasn’t targeted.
  • Aqib Talib, Had an interception after pressing Jackson at the line, great play. Nothing allowed over the top. That goes for the whole secondary too. Freeman looked like he was holding onto the ball forever.
  • Sorry I don’t have much to say about the lineman. Couldn’t see any of the drills too well. Also it was hard to tell how the run game was because they were playing thud.
  • Sidenote: Got Aaron Dobson’s autograph. Seemed like a cool guy.
http://www.patsfootballfans.com/post/58329945153/patriots-training-camp-observations
 
Many thanks for the update.

How do you see the QBs sharing time tonite?
 
chevss454 said:
It shows 2 big issues with punter Allen: 1. He has a punt blocked (bc he takes 0.10 sec more than Mesko to get the kick off compared to Mesko's, [1.2 vs 1.1]) and 2. He out kicks his coverage. Nick Underhill says he's averaging 54 yd/punt while Mesko is 44 yds/punt. He thinks Allen has fallen behind a tad bc of the 2 things above.
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Yes, the two things you want in any NFL punter. Punt fast enough to not get it blocked, and don't outkick your coverage (unless you're Tom Brady, HEYO! )

Looks like Allen is just another big-legged college punter who isn't polished enough to play in the NFL. At least, not for a good team.
 
Mellow Man said:
Many thanks for the update.

How do you see the QBs sharing time tonite?
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Guessing.

TB 2 series, maybe 3 if 1 doesn't go well.

Mallett til 1/2 way through the 3rd Qtr.
Tebow from there.

Tebow is surprisingly good connecting on longer throws. Shorter than 12-15 yds and he aims too much as if he's throwing darts.
 
Thanks. I agree with the Tebow assessment. He has a strong arm for the long throws but short he is undecisive and yes appears to be aiming it too much...and he locks onto his target which alerts the coverage. Definitely needs work on that.
 
Longer plays take longer time to develop. Shorter throws require better reaction times and progression reads. Tim has neither of those two skills.
 
chevss454 said:
Guessing.

TB 2 series, maybe 3 if 1 doesn't go well.

Mallett til 1/2 way through the 3rd Qtr.
Tebow from there.

Tebow is surprisingly good connecting on longer throws. Shorter than 12-15 yds and he aims too much as if he's throwing lawn darts.
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FYP ROFL


Cheers :toast: BostonTim
 
Where do we talk about the absolute Lazer that Brady just shot at Sudfeld? Is here a good place?
 
We can run the 2 TE formation s again. Suds is doing a great job making people forget about Hernandez. I pity the DB that has to cover those two huge TE's.
 
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