Teh Official Pats v Texans Game Day 3 Thread

From Ian O'Connor, senior writer

Nick Saban might go down as the greatest college coach of all time, but he was a product of Belichick's mostly miserable time in Cleveland and, of course, he went 15-17 in his two seasons as head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Charlie Weis went 41-49 at Notre Dame and Kansas with no major bowl victories. Romeo Crennel went 28-55 for the Browns and Chiefs with no playoff appearances. Josh McDaniels went 11-17 in Denver. Jim Schwartz (Cleveland division) went 29-51 for the Lions with one playoff loss, and Eric Mangini went 33-47 with the Jets and Browns with one playoff loss -- to Belichick. Saban, Crennel, McDaniels, Schwartz, and Mangini combined to win 38 percent of their NFL games without delivering a single postseason victory.
"You can understand why all those guys got jobs coming out of Bill's system," said one former New England executive. "They're all good coaches, no question. But what owners around the league seemed to forget when they hired Bill's assistants is that they weren't bringing Bill with them."
Or Brady. O'Brien didn't have Brady on his side anymore, either, but he did show up Thursday night with a winning NFL record (20-14), a playoff appearance, and a track record that showed he wasn't afraid of any challenge. He did follow Joe Paterno at Penn State. He did sign up to coach in the immediate wake of one of the most tragic college scandals of all.
In Houston he has surrounded himself with all sorts of former Belichick coaches and players. Crennel. Mike Vrabel. George Godsey. Larry Izzo. Vince Wilfork. O'Brien even hired the former Patriots scout who helped discover Super Bowl hero Malcolm Butler, Frantzy Jourdain. It made sense, too. If your goal is to dominate the AFC like the Patriots have over the past 15 years, why not hire as many old Patriots as possible?
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None of it mattered Thursday night. O'Brien and his team were completely outclassed by Belichick and his.
"Their program has been in place for a long time," O'Brien said. "They have what I think is the best head coach in the history of the league and they do a great job."
It's funny how this has worked out, too. Belichick made his name in this league as a defensive coordinator, one of the best around, and over time he has developed into a formidable offensive mind, with an assist from McDaniels. He has practically the Abner Doubleday of the slot receiver position. He has turned Gronk into a monster. He has preserved an aging Brady with a quick, short passing game. He has proven he can go 11-5 with Matt Cassel and 3-0 with Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.
Belichick might as well start Edelman under center against Buffalo to stick it to commissioner Roger Goodell, who never fathomed the Patriots would bleed all remaining air out of Brady's Deflategate suspension by going 4-0 in his absence. Chances are, assuming Garoppolo's shoulder doesn't heal, the Patriots will stick with Brissett, who would've ended up with a touchdown pass had Edelman not dropped one in the back of the end zone.
Given that Brissett made history as the first African-American quarterback to start for the Patriots, Doug Williams, the first African-American quarterback to win the Super Bowl, watched on TV with great interest. Now an executive with Washington, Williams had given Brissett a third-round grade before the draft. His marks were a bit higher after the quarterback's first start.
"He didn't set the world on fire with [103] passing yards," Williams said by phone, "but he was efficient, he showed poise, he showed athleticism, and he operated exactly the way his coaches wanted him to operate. They didn't want him to be an all-pro tonight. I liked how all his teammates ran to him in the end zone; that tells me they like him. And I liked it when Bill Belichick put out his hand for a handshake and Jacoby handed him the ball instead."
<article class="ad-300"></article>As it turned out, Belichick gave the ball back to his winning quarterback after the game, just like he had with other gift-giving Patriots of the past. "It's all about the players," the coach kept saying with conviction, and he didn't feel any great need to single out Brissett.
But without a healthy Gronk, Belichick leaned on a rookie to stay clear of J.J. Watt and to secure New England's 22nd consecutive home victory over a non-divisional AFC opponent. Before leaving his Gillette Stadium locker room for the night, Brissett looked up at a clock and said, "Damn, it's already midnight. Past my bedtime."
Somehow, some way, the league's best coach made it to 3-0 with a kid at quarterback. In two weeks, Tom Brady won't be returning to a broken system. Just one that keeps getting notarized against all odds.
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The Patriots Are Still the Patriots, No Matter How Many Options You Take Away

New England’s throttling of Houston is just Bill Belichick’s latest master class in exploiting football’s minutiae.



<figure name="4505" id="4505" class="graf graf--figure graf--iframe graf-after--p"></figure>The Hooded One seems to derive perverse enjoyment out of finding new ways to extract whatever value he can out of the minutiae of the game (he was the first coach to truly embrace the opportunity to defer kickoffs), and Stephen Gostkowski’s ability to pop up his kicks and force returns from the 1- or 2-yard line has already become yet another installment. Twice, Texans’ kick returners fumbled away possessions that were supposed to follow New England scores, and although that’s almost entirely a product of luck (even Belichick’s black magic doesn’t extend that far), those are still opportunities made possible by a brand new tactic the Patriots have refined in a single offseason.
As far as punter Ryan Allen’s sorcery goes, New England deserves all the credit. Allen averaged 47.6 yards per punt, without a single one of them being returned. On non-kickoffs, the Texans’ starting field position on seven possessions was its own 10.6-yard line. All night, the Patriots bled Houston’s offense out before its drives could even start.


Much more & well written
https://theringer.com/the-patriots-...options-you-take-away-80b4a449240e#.scqsubydj
 
Damn, I wish I had read this prescient article yesterday.

The Tweaker Has a New Toy

Bill Belichick will likely start a third-string rookie quarterback on Thursday night. That might sound scary, but with a legendary tinkerer in charge, it’s going to be a treat.



Belichick identifies problems before they develop and solves them better than perhaps any coach in history. His real gift is his ability to improvise and revise.
The best way to describe Belichick is the way Malcolm Gladwell described Steve Jobs: He’s a tweaker. Of course, it’s unfair to compare Jobs and Belichick, because one changed the world with his constant innovation and is recognized as an all-time genius, while the other invented the iPad. But on Thursday, Belichick’s problem-solving ability will be on full display as he likely starts rookie Jacoby Brissett.
https://theringer.com/get-ready-for...gs-with-his-rookie-qb-9d52f59c992e#.5lhez3ax0
 
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=124322

OrangeMange! This is a really fun thread. First off many rooting for Pats is kinda funny. Sorta like when we hold our nose and root for the Jets. Game starts at page 5ish and runs captivatingly for a total of 23 pages so far.

It has everything. The officials in Pats pocket, the cheating, the TFB standard stock of system QB. not better than Matt Ryan. There is a lot of intelligent commentary and plenty of the usual hilarious stupidity and total unfiltered hatred.

I'll be moving forward on this in my spare time, Have mostly sampled so far.

Cheers
 
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=124322

OrangeMange! This is a really fun thread. First off many rooting for Pats is kinda funny. Sorta like when we hold our nose and root for the Jets. Game starts at page 5ish and runs captivatingly for a total of 23 pages so far.

It has everything. The officials in Pats pocket, the cheating, the TFB standard stock of system QB. not better than Matt Ryan. There is a lot of intelligent commentary and plenty of the usual hilarious stupidity and total unfiltered hatred.

I'll be moving forward on this in my spare time, Have mostly sampled so far.

Cheers

you're heart is in the right place, but I'm not sure I have the strength for this today.

wuv
 
Thought the uniforms looked great BTW. Really smart, nice blue, very American. Even a hint of Navy about them which I'm sure Bill liked.

Best of the "Colour Rush" I've seen so far.

And really great the way the O Line sprinted to the Endzone to celebrate with Jacoby on that TD. They were more pleased than he was! That doesn't happen with a player that teammates don't like so he's earned their respect and fondness very quickly which is a great sign.
 
JJ Watt's statline was horrific. Zero sacks, Zero tackles. Appeared to give up by halftime with his effort. The guy is always invisible when we play him.
 
Thought the uniforms looked great BTW. Really smart, nice blue, very American. Even a hint of Navy about them which I'm sure Bill liked.

Best of the "Colour Rush" I've seen so far.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill Belichick on conference call: "I can't even tell you how excited I was about the uniforms last night." <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tongueincheek?src=hash">#tongueincheek</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/colorrush?src=hash">#colorrush</a></p>— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/779333014727847936">September 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Thought the uniforms looked great BTW. Really smart, nice blue, very American. Even a hint of Navy about them which I'm sure Bill liked.

Best of the "Colour Rush" I've seen so far.

They looked just like the Texans regular uniforms, which is probably why Os through a pass to his wide-open TE, #91. :toast:
 
So the NFL's new kick-off rule spotted us two fumbles last night as Bill the Master took full advantage of the short kick to try to pin the Texans and ended up with two short fields and two TDs. Man, it is good to be a Pats fan.
 
Pro Football Focus ‏<s>@</s>PFF <small class="time">https://twitter.com/PFF/status/779165139664793600 </small> Top-graded <s>#</s>Patriots

LB Jamie Collins 95.8

DE Trey Flowers 79.7

S Devin McCourty 79.0

T Nate Solder 78.4

I've loved Flowers for a while now. Just brings it every second of every play. He has to see more time some how, even if it's cuts into Sheards snaps. Long, Flowers and Sheard is a very nice rotation. + Ninko.

Collins was great. The kid still has a lot of room to grow imo. I really hope he doesn't price himself out.

McCourty just doesn't let this defense give up big plays. Always unnoticed but never unappreciated.

Solder and Dev are great together on the edge. I thought the whole line played great.

Have to give a shout out to Ryan and Butler. I know it's a product of a shitty league but Fuller did have 2 100 games and was invisible. Holy Shit does he look like he's having a panic attack catching the football. Literally every catch is a event. And Hopkins might just be the best in the game, worst top 5. Guy is amazing. Ryan was unbelievable imo tho. He contested everything and showed great patience and technique. He just doesn't get the credit he deserves. Yes he'll always get beat deep on occasion and his height will never change but the guy has had great games against some of the best wr's in the game.


Posters need to appreciate this defense. First off its 2016 and the league is a joke save for about 4-5 teams. We gave up less than 22 to Arizona with 2 offensive TO'S. 3 to Miami before Patricia went soft for w/e reason? And just shut out the Texans. This isnt the 85 Bears but there hasn't been 2-3 teams with a better defense imho. This team is special. Hungry, pissed off and poised. 12 gets back and it's lights out.
 
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=124322

OrangeMange! This is a really fun thread. First off many rooting for Pats is kinda funny. Sorta like when we hold our nose and root for the Jets. Game starts at page 5ish and runs captivatingly for a total of 23 pages so far.

It has everything. The officials in Pats pocket, the cheating, the TFB standard stock of system QB. not better than Matt Ryan. There is a lot of intelligent commentary and plenty of the usual hilarious stupidity and total unfiltered hatred.

I'll be moving forward on this in my spare time, Have mostly sampled so far.

Cheers

I'm actually reading through this now.

I will just NEVER understand how the average idiot fan can be so clueless. The offense last night was nothing like they run with Brady...yet these fools can't see the difference. And yeah...I know...they're Donkey fans (only slightly less intelligent than canine diarrhea)...but it isn't just them.
 
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