Looking at the Patriots - 2019

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PatsFan09 said:
Demarius Thomas and Yeldon in for visits.
Thoughts?


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A 30+ year old soft receiver coming off a torn achilles, no f'n thank you.

TJY is pretty decent, could excel in a good offense.
 
chevss454 said:
During the regular season, the Patriots finished with a respectable 42.6% pressure rate from their defensive stunts, which ranked 15th among teams. When it came to the playoffs though, their pressure rate grew to an astounding 56.7%, which was by far the highest among all playoff defenses.
With great stunt success from New England, came poor play from the opposing quarterback. When New England ran a stunt, the opposition finished with a combined big-time throw to turnover-worthy play ratio of 14:13; when no stunt was executed, the opposing quarterbacks had a combined BTT-to-TWP ratio of 31:16. Furthermore, almost every quarterback New England faced faltered significantly when they went up against a Patriots stunt, including reigning NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes.



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If it weren’t for Goff’s last attempt at a miraculous comeback on the final drive of the game (which included two big-time throws against dime and quarter packages), his passing grade against the Patriots when they ran a stunt would have been just 49.3.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...d-patriots-super-bowl-run-the-defensive-stunt
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Interesting stat and comments, but what I'd like to see is a breakdown of how often and when we stunted throughout the year. My belief is that we didn't do it nearly as often in the regular season and, therefore, had a hole card to spring in the playoffs.

Not only did we stunt far more often (so I believe), but we ran a whole grab-bag of diverse stuff that we'd seldom/never shown. It was a major strategical trap perfectly sprung and the staff never got enough credit for it.

We could've had more sacks on the year if we'd stunted more often, but got a ring instead.
 
BostonTim said:
Ain't that just like Bill?

Cheers
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Exactacaly.

Bill is playing vulcan chess and everybody else is playing checkers.

I've been watching him closely for a long time and I usually have no idea what he's up to.

But I know it's something. Last year was a classic example of that.
 
Guerrero talked about TB12 today



“I know how Tom feels every day,” Guerrero told Barshad, per Deadspin.
“He says, ‘I don’t have any soreness. I’m ready to play again.’ Those are things that we thought would happen, and now we’re seeing the reality of them happening. Do I think Tom can play to a high level at forty-five? Absolutely.”
Barshad then asked Guerrero: “OK. How about fifty?”
“I mean, why not?” Guerrero responded with a chuckle.
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“I’ve never put limits on myself, and I’ve never put limits on any of my clients. I’m a big believer that everything is learned behavior. You tell an athlete, ‘You’re gonna be done when you’re thirty,’ well, the brain begins to believe that, and all your neuro-programming is based on, ‘OK, I’m thirty, I’m old.’ But I don’t think the brain understands the concept of time. It doesn’t understand age. Right? How would your brain know you’re whatever age you are? I always tell Tom, we’re not gonna tell our body what we wanna do. We’re gonna tell our body what we want it to do.”
 
chevss454 said:
“I’ve never put limits on myself, and I’ve never put limits on any of my clients. I’m a big believer that everything is learned behavior. You tell an athlete, ‘You’re gonna be done when you’re thirty,’ well, the brain begins to believe that, and all your neuro-programming is based on, ‘OK, I’m thirty, I’m old.’ But I don’t think the brain understands the concept of time. It doesn’t understand age. Right? How would your brain know you’re whatever age you are? I always tell Tom, we’re not gonna tell our body what we wanna do. We’re gonna tell our body what we want it to do.”
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This is right out of the "programming your subconcious mind" playbook and it's something that I'm a believer in.

I took a week-long video class once from a guy named Lou Tice who was former Vikings HC Mike Tice's Dad and the entire point of it was about the relationship the conscious mind has with the subconscious mind.

Simply put, the subconscious is like an engineer and it is highly suggestible (but not stupid). It can respond amazingly well to suggestion and affirmation from the conscious mind, but those suggestions have to be realistic and not "I can jump from here to the moon".

I hear athletes saying things like "I want the ball in my hands in key moments" and that is exactly what they're doing -- giving their subconscious instructions to execute and allowing it to send positive commands to the body to engineer a favorable result. Like Larry Bird saying to his 3-point shooting competition in the all-star game "you guys are all playing for second place".

Golf is a great example. If somebody ruefully says to their friends "I just can't putt" then the subconscious has no reason to doubt that and will send negative commands to the hands and body and a two-footer is missed. It is suggestible and also somewhat gullible. Whatever you tell it, within reason, it will try to make happen.

Anyhow, there is a lot more to that topic, but I've noticed that Brady is always, always giving himself positive self-talk and I'm sure that you don't hear a whole lot of "I can't do it" around the offices of TB12.

Sorry to ramble, but this is a topic I find fascinating and there is a huge corollary to athletics.
 
Hawg73 said:
This is right out of the "programming your subconcious mind" playbook and it's something that I'm a believer in.

I took a week-long video class once from a guy named Lou Tice who was former Vikings HC Mike Tice's Dad and the entire point of it was about the relationship the conscious mind has with the subconscious mind.

Simply put, the subconscious is like an engineer and it is highly suggestible (but not stupid). It can respond amazingly well to suggestion and affirmation from the conscious mind, but those suggestions have to be realistic and not "I can jump from here to the moon".

I hear athletes saying things like "I want the ball in my hands in key moments" and that is exactly what they're doing -- giving their subconscious instructions to execute and allowing it to send positive commands to the body to engineer a favorable result. Like Larry Bird saying to his 3-point shooting competition in the all-star game "you guys are all playing for second place".

Golf is a great example. If somebody ruefully says to their friends "I just can't putt" then the subconscious has no reason to doubt that and will send negative commands to the hands and body and a two-footer is missed. It is suggestible and also somewhat gullible. Whatever you tell it, within reason, it will try to make happen.

Anyhow, there is a lot more to that topic, but I've noticed that Brady is always, always giving himself positive self-talk and I'm sure that you don't hear a whole lot of "I can't do it" around the offices of TB12.

Sorry to ramble, but this is a topic I find fascinating and there is a huge corollary to athletics.
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Have you ever read Psycho Cybernetics? Its a good book related to the subject...
 
Chris Hogan gone to the Panthers. Not a big loss imho and I think we better prepare for some snide comments and whinging from him about his last season here.
 
Hogan had a decent run here.

I’m greatful.

We don’t get this last SB without his incredible grab in KC.

Something went awry. Brady lost faith in him imo.

He can help Cam Newton. Of this I’m sure.
 
Dwight Schrute said:
Hogan had a decent run here.

I’m greatful.

We don’t get this last SB without his incredible grab in KC.

Something went awry. Brady lost faith in him imo.

He can help Cam Newton. Of this I’m sure.
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I'm not so sure Hogan makes their 53. It's a 1 year deal; I wanna see the contract details. Hopefully he got paid.


edit: Nice tribute to Hogan and it includes that 1 handed catch vs KC in the AFCCG.
https://twitter.com/ftbeard_17/status/1116795040628494336
 
Hogan was good when he first got here and then fell off the map. He showed flashes like against KC but he clearly wasn’t worth the roster spot anymore.


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mooseontheloose said:
Hogan was good when he first got here and then fell off the map. He showed flashes like against KC but he clearly wasn’t worth the roster spot anymore.


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Hogan should have got the boot way before DOLA...but, it doesnt matter now. At least DOLA did things when it mattered (playoffs). Hogan is close to Ghost...eh.
 
Roberto71 said:
Chris Hogan gone to the Panthers. Not a big loss imho and I think we better prepare for some snide comments and whinging from him about his last season here.
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Our long national Discount Double-Catch Nightmare is over. :coffee:

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chevss454 said:
CapSpace=$15,699,638‏ @patscap <small class="time"> 16m16 minutes ago </small>
My new Patriots salary cap space number after accounting for Stephen Gostkowski's 2019 cap number is $15,699,638. Had guessed right on ASJ's cap number.


Doesn't account for Chung's extension.
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Heard Eugene's extension only cost about $400k on this year's cap.
 
TommyD420 said:
Our long national Discount Double-Catch Nightmare is over. :coffee:

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Heard Eugene's extension only cost about $400k on this year's cap.
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CapSpace=$15,391,305‏ @patscap<small class="time"> </small>
My new Patriots salary cap space number after accounting for Stephen Gostkowski, Patrick Chung, and Austin Seferian-Jenkins is $15,391,305.


BB saving cap for something...
 
chevss454 said:
Pats signed Patrick Chung to a 1 year extension through 2021.

Chung was a captain last year and he's become a key contributor covering TEs and as a virtual LB against the run.

Probably created some cap space :coffee:


Patrick Chung appreciation thread

https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1043340691152220160
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PFF NE Patriots‏ @PFF_Patriots <small class="time"> </small>
Patrick Chung played all over the field in 2018.

Across the regular season and playoffs Chung saw:
- 276 snaps at Slot CB
- 120 snaps at Outside CB
-77 snaps at Free Safety
- 30 snaps at Strong Safety
- 376 snaps as an Off-Ball Linebacker
- 152 snaps as an OLB on the LOS


Pretty valuable guy
 
Chung is wicked valuable. We are watching a repeat of Rodney Harrisons' retirement. Tough guy but they just extended some baling wire and twine.
 
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