I say it, because I suspect at least 1 of those top QBs will end up being a bust, (and I doubt it will be the first one taken). Regardless of whenever they take a QB, I hope they also sign a veteran QB, so the rookie can sit on the bench for a year.
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A veteran QB is an absolute necessity. Even if there's a competition and the rookie wins out, you wouldn't want to go into the season with Zappe as your backup and
expect Zappe to win 50% of his games if the rookie gets injured. Every team needs a veteran backup.
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I just spent an hour or so watching Drake Maye videos. Mostly interviews. I’m not great in judging how college highlights will translate against NFL competition, (he has plenty of great one), so I was more interested in how he speaks and carries himself.
I can say with enthusiasm I hope he’s a Patriot. He’s got all the things I thought Mac lacked in terms of his body language, how he holds himself, the way he pays attention to questions. He’s young too. This guy is gonna be in the league for a long time. He’s confident in a great way. He’s gonna be a great guy to have in the huddle and on the sidelines. Hes got all the physical stuff you’d want as well. The guy is huge, and I saw a few plays where he took off and ran it pretty well. I go back to that cigar picture of Mac Jones. Something about that just screamed I’m not a serious athlete and leader. I get the complete opposite vibe from Maye.
His best WR was Josh Downs in 22, and that off season he lost him and apparently his coordinator. North Carolina isn’t small, but it’s not likes it’s an SEC school where he’s surrounded by first round draft picks. Which bring me to Jayden Daniels.
He’s built like RG3. He’s fast, but it’s straight line speed. He’s throwing to not one, but two first round WRs. Guys like him miss games. When I see a guy built like him and hear straight line speed, not shifty, I see a guy who’s gonna miss 4 games a year. Anyone can get injured but I don’t see Daniels holding up especially if he’s playing outside in New England.
Drake Maye just looks like he’s built to play outside in cold weather. He’s got the frame to take NFL hits. He’s got the arm. He’s got the poise. I hope he falls to NE, and personally I think he’s worth trading up for. The guy is gonna be a top ten QB.
I can say with enthusiasm I hope he’s a Patriot. He’s got all the things I thought Mac lacked in terms of his body language, how he holds himself, the way he pays attention to questions. He’s young too. This guy is gonna be in the league for a long time. He’s confident in a great way. He’s gonna be a great guy to have in the huddle and on the sidelines. Hes got all the physical stuff you’d want as well. The guy is huge, and I saw a few plays where he took off and ran it pretty well. I go back to that cigar picture of Mac Jones. Something about that just screamed I’m not a serious athlete and leader. I get the complete opposite vibe from Maye.
His best WR was Josh Downs in 22, and that off season he lost him and apparently his coordinator. North Carolina isn’t small, but it’s not likes it’s an SEC school where he’s surrounded by first round draft picks. Which bring me to Jayden Daniels.
He’s built like RG3. He’s fast, but it’s straight line speed. He’s throwing to not one, but two first round WRs. Guys like him miss games. When I see a guy built like him and hear straight line speed, not shifty, I see a guy who’s gonna miss 4 games a year. Anyone can get injured but I don’t see Daniels holding up especially if he’s playing outside in New England.
Drake Maye just looks like he’s built to play outside in cold weather. He’s got the frame to take NFL hits. He’s got the arm. He’s got the poise. I hope he falls to NE, and personally I think he’s worth trading up for. The guy is gonna be a top ten QB.
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Plenty of well known evaluators have comped Maye to a more accurate Josh Allen, right down to the occasional "wtf was he thinking" throw. Size, arm, running ability...
I certainly don't think Maye has reached his ceiling. I expect he'll be a Washington Commander in a couple of months.
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How often did Harrison, whom Wolf said fits any offensive system, see double teams at Ohio State?
"Every game," Buckeyes offensive coordinator/receivers coach Brian Hartline told ESPN, before sharing what traits stand out most to him.
"Once you get to a certain level, 'eliteness' is found from the neck up. I think that kind of embodies Marv. He has a high ceiling that God blessed him with, that his parents have brought along in him. But his ability, individually, to maximize what he is capable of, is really the [secret] sauce to reaching the top.
"Yeah, he reached the highest of highs as a college receiver. But that's the shortest thing on his goal list when it comes to his career. It's not how he talks. It's not what he wishes happens. It's his daily routine. It's his lifestyle. It's a whole different ballpark than most people will probably understand."
If the Patriots want a credible threat at receiver, Marvin Harrison Jr. could add a level of skill the Patriots have been missing for some time. Kevin Jairaj-USA TODAY Sports
Harrison, who measured 6-foot-3 and 209 pounds at the combine, totaled 155 receptions for 2,613 yards and 31 touchdowns over his three collegiate seasons.
Hartline played receiver in the NFL from 2009 to 2015 with the Dolphins and Browns, and what he sees in Harrison's physical skill set is rare.
"He is an interesting build, if you will. He's 6-3, but I always felt his lower body was like a 6-footer," he said. "He actually has a really long torso. He has long arms [31.8 inches]. But his lower half has the transition of a 6-footer, so he's able to quick-twitch. His acceleration is excellent because of that. He's low to the ground, so his center of mass is not high-waisted. I think he's built in a way you'd want to be -- tall enough, with a shorter person's lower half, and then with the ability to run; incredible speed. He's kind of built like his dad."
Longtime Patriots fans, of course, need no introduction to Marvin Harrison Sr., who played a central role in the Patriots-Colts rivalry as Peyton Manning's top target when Tom Brady and Manning engaged in classic duels through the 2000s. Harrison Sr. was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2016 and Hartline shared his belief that Harrison Jr. has an All-American/Hall of Fame makeup as well.
For a Patriots team badly in need of an infusion of offensive talent, but also with players whom Wolf said will fit the culture of doing more than the norm, Harrison might be the safest choice.
"There's a lot of variables with offenses and quarterback play, and longevity and health and all that, but when it comes from a lifestyle and living the game standpoint, he has all of that," Hartline said. "He's an amazing young man. His character, how he operates, how he does what he says, is at an all-time high."
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How often did Harrison, whom Wolf said fits any offensive system, see double teams at Ohio State?
"Every game," Buckeyes offensive coordinator/receivers coach Brian Hartline told ESPN, before sharing what traits stand out most to him.
"Once you get to a certain level, 'eliteness' is found from the neck up. I think that kind of embodies Marv. He has a high ceiling that God blessed him with, that his parents have brought along in him. But his ability, individually, to maximize what he is capable of, is really the [secret] sauce to reaching the top.
"Yeah, he reached the highest of highs as a college receiver. But that's the shortest thing on his goal list when it comes to his career. It's not how he talks. It's not what he wishes happens. It's his daily routine. It's his lifestyle. It's a whole different ballpark than most people will probably understand."
If the Patriots want a credible threat at receiver, Marvin Harrison Jr. could add a level of skill the Patriots have been missing for some time. Kevin Jairaj-USA TODAY Sports
Harrison, who measured 6-foot-3 and 209 pounds at the combine, totaled 155 receptions for 2,613 yards and 31 touchdowns over his three collegiate seasons.
Hartline played receiver in the NFL from 2009 to 2015 with the Dolphins and Browns, and what he sees in Harrison's physical skill set is rare.
"He is an interesting build, if you will. He's 6-3, but I always felt his lower body was like a 6-footer," he said. "He actually has a really long torso. He has long arms [31.8 inches]. But his lower half has the transition of a 6-footer, so he's able to quick-twitch. His acceleration is excellent because of that. He's low to the ground, so his center of mass is not high-waisted. I think he's built in a way you'd want to be -- tall enough, with a shorter person's lower half, and then with the ability to run; incredible speed. He's kind of built like his dad."
Longtime Patriots fans, of course, need no introduction to Marvin Harrison Sr., who played a central role in the Patriots-Colts rivalry as Peyton Manning's top target when Tom Brady and Manning engaged in classic duels through the 2000s. Harrison Sr. was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2016 and Hartline shared his belief that Harrison Jr. has an All-American/Hall of Fame makeup as well.
For a Patriots team badly in need of an infusion of offensive talent, but also with players whom Wolf said will fit the culture of doing more than the norm, Harrison might be the safest choice.
"There's a lot of variables with offenses and quarterback play, and longevity and health and all that, but when it comes from a lifestyle and living the game standpoint, he has all of that," Hartline said. "He's an amazing young man. His character, how he operates, how he does what he says, is at an all-time high."
Why the Patriots should really consider drafting WR Marvin Harrison Jr. at third overall
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I’ll take Harrison every day of the week, and twice on Sundays over Daniel’s.
Daniel’s is the second coming of RG3. He’d set back the Pats 4 years. He’s never going to have the talent around him in the nfl that he had at LSU, plus the guys frame is not built for NFL hits.
If Maye doesn’t fall to 3, and the pats are dead set at grabbing a QB, it’d be better to trade for Fields than draft Daniels. Uggghhhh probably it would be better to draft Harrison and roll with Mack. Typing that made me throw up a bit in my mouth. I had to spit and brush my teeth. It’s true though.
Daniel’s is the second coming of RG3. He’d set back the Pats 4 years. He’s never going to have the talent around him in the nfl that he had at LSU, plus the guys frame is not built for NFL hits.
If Maye doesn’t fall to 3, and the pats are dead set at grabbing a QB, it’d be better to trade for Fields than draft Daniels. Uggghhhh probably it would be better to draft Harrison and roll with Mack. Typing that made me throw up a bit in my mouth. I had to spit and brush my teeth. It’s true though.
Not Mac, Zappe.
I wouldn't. I'm don't want the Pats or the fans who desperately wanted wins last year to have any happiness from trading up. Reap what you sow, and don't reward stupid behavior. Or waste assets that you didn't need to.
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Yeah. Jeez it would be great if those worthless wins were losses and we’d be looking at having Maye as our QB for the next decade.
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The 2 teams picking before the Patriots both want QBs. You want to trade up but neither team will want to trade down so there's no way to trade up.
In which case they'll almost be forced to take Harrison. His draft grade is already going to be at the top of the Patriots board. If Williams and Maye go 1, 2, and they look at Daniels grade somewhere in the 20s...
Honestly, they might just bullshit luck their way into the right pick. "Forced" to take Harrison, and he ends up being the best player in the draft.
Rich Eisen is convinced that is going to be Williams at 1 and Daniel’s at 2 after hearing all the talk at the combine.
Just saw that myself. Yeah, really, really sucks to not be a part of the ability to pick who you want right? 2020 redux all over again. They fucked up then, they fucked up now.
Williams is going to fail in Chicago, just like Fields did. Daniels or Maye will fail in Washington, because that what they do. I'd usually say whoever ends up in NE would be a success but that can't be said anymore either. So yeah, maybe grab Harrison's and go from there. Thats the bed they made, time to sleep in it.
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So can someone tell me a little about this guy Nathan Rourke this is about all I have seen on him.
Rourke, 25, spent two seasons (2021-22) playing for the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League after his collegiate career at Ohio. The 6-foot-1, 210-pounder, played in 23 games for the BC Lions and completed 307-of-406 passes for 4,103 yards with 28 touchdowns.
So can someone tell me a little about this guy Nathan Rourke this is about all I have seen on him.
Rourke, 25, spent two seasons (2021-22) playing for the BC Lions of the Canadian Football League after his collegiate career at Ohio. The 6-foot-1, 210-pounder, played in 23 games for the BC Lions and completed 307-of-406 passes for 4,103 yards with 28 touchdowns.
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He isn’t going to amount to much. Did you see his combine throws? Oh my.
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6"1", 205 lbs, short arms and very small hands. Training camp arm/scout team.
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This kid keeps coming up on mock drafts for the Patriots
RB Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
Louisville’s Isaac Guerendo put on a show this week. Not only did he measure in at 6-foot, 221 pounds, but he absolutely smoked every drill imaginable. Here’s a look at his performance relative to the rest of his position group:
Put it all together, and you get a 9.99/10 relative athletic score (RAS), which ranks 2nd all-time of 1745 RBs (!!) since 1987.
During his season with the Cardinals in 2023, Guerendo tallied 810 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns on 132 carries - good for 6.1 yards a pop. He also showed off some receiving skills as well hauling in 22 catches for 234 yards.
With just three rostered running backs heading into 2024, including Rhamondre Stevenson in a contract year, the Patriots will need to address the position before the season begins. Guerendo could be a developmental addition to the backfield.
RB Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
Louisville’s Isaac Guerendo put on a show this week. Not only did he measure in at 6-foot, 221 pounds, but he absolutely smoked every drill imaginable. Here’s a look at his performance relative to the rest of his position group:
- 40-yard dash: 4.33 seconds (1st among RBs)
- Vertical jump: 41.5 inches (1st)
- Broad jump: 10’9” (2nd)
- 20-yard shuttle: 4.15 seconds (t4th)
- 3-cone: 6.94 seconds (4th)
Put it all together, and you get a 9.99/10 relative athletic score (RAS), which ranks 2nd all-time of 1745 RBs (!!) since 1987.
During his season with the Cardinals in 2023, Guerendo tallied 810 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns on 132 carries - good for 6.1 yards a pop. He also showed off some receiving skills as well hauling in 22 catches for 234 yards.
With just three rostered running backs heading into 2024, including Rhamondre Stevenson in a contract year, the Patriots will need to address the position before the season begins. Guerendo could be a developmental addition to the backfield.