Hot or Not?

Re: Rant Warning

Originally posted by Miss Gomezcat on 02-16-2008 at 01:49 PM I was in my teens and only 'needed' to lose 7lb.


Did you look like this after losing 7 lbs?

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:D
 
Spentcartridge on 02-16-2008 at 01:34 PM said:
Mirror mirror on the wall....
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I think the "heavy" on is kinda hot. Really pretty face, and a really nice shape. Could she stand to lose a few pounds? Yeah. Could she benefit by joining a fitness center? yeah. But I'd hit it as is!

Women all dont have to look like swimsuit models. (which the "heavy" one would should she chose to). They put such pressure on themselves that this is the result of it....
 
Young teen and women's mags and the media do this to girls.

I went through it as a teen not happy with just wanting 5 lbs off, to look model thin. Then after losing just 5 I still thought I was fat. Now I look back at picts from then and think what was I thinking. When down the Cape partying with friends...I'd have one doughnut all day and one beer at night to party...but nursed it all night. I become anorexic from that diet. From starving yourself eventually you completely lose your appetite and you can't eat...it makes you sick to think about it. I drove my mother nuts with it. I thought seeing my rib cage protude was the epitome of "hot!"

Now I see my 14 year old going through it. At first I didn't mind as she chunked up a bit at age 12...but then she lost 25 pounds, would starve all day...then eat a small chicken leg and complain of feeling stuffed. Just like her Mom.
 
shirtsleeve on 02-16-2008 at 02:34 PM said:
I think the "heavy" on is kinda hot. Really pretty face, and a really nice shape. Could she stand to lose a few pounds? Yeah. Could she benefit by joining a fitness center? yeah. But I'd hit it as is!

Women all dont have to look like swimsuit models. (which the "heavy" one would should she chose to). They put such pressure on themselves that this is the result of it....

That was sort of my point, too. The "fat" one is pretty. Like I said, a slight toning as indicated in the following pic, IMO... But even as she is I find her a lot hotter than the skinny supermodels.
 
JD,
She's not likely to lose the weight in the spots you choose. Her shape is her shape. It will just be a thinner or smaller version with the same spots having more.

For instance you didn't do her lower legs, her face or her breast area. Only liposuction will change the balance in her contour. They say spot toning doesn't work either. I don't know. I just know it comes off a little bit all over.
 
Now this has got me thinking of a "body type poll", but I can't find anything on the Internet. It would be interesting to see what people think when provided a choice of two women (or men). A little chubby vs. a little skinny? A little toned vs. overmuscled?

Of course, we're only talking about "bodies", not people. That is, for me, someone's "attractiveness" changes (for better OR worse) as the more of their personality becomes known. I can't say what TV women like Kari Byron and Samantha Brown are like "in real life", but judging by what they present on TV they have great personalities and, thus, those two have become more "attractive" IMO than any sculpted Girlie Pic come-hither type (even though Ms. Byron and Brown might have a few extra ounces here or there and don't carry around 36C cannons...).
 
while we're on the subject of 'Hot'...Cabin Fever is on SciFi right now...

mmmm....Cerina Vincent...drool
 
JD10367 on 02-16-2008 at 02:59 PM said:
Now this has got me thinking of a "body type poll", but I can't find anything on the Internet.


I googled the word "mesomorph" and got a site on body types and got this site for one:

Your body type: Ectomorph, Mesomorph or Endomorph?

Has pictures and descriptions of the types...but some are a bit or each. I've heard of these before.
 
BradyLady12 on 02-16-2008 at 02:54 PM said:

She's not likely to lose the weight in the spots you choose. Her shape is her shape. It will just be a thinner or smaller version with the same spots having more.

For instance you didn't do her lower legs, her face or her breast area. Only liposuction will change the balance in her contour. They say spot toning doesn't work either. I don't know. I just know it comes off a little bit all over.

Exactly and thats another reason for so many body issues females face. Women strive to get that ideal hourglass figure, but truth is most women's bodies aren't shaped that way. A lot of times females will target one area and even if they've lost tons of weight in other areas, they still think they haven't lost enough in that particular area (i.e. stomach, etc).Their perceptions are thus skewed. This is also why you see so many women jumping to get breast implants because a flat stomach usually means a flat chest. Perceptions of the ideal body are even more deluded bc of how many images on tv are portrayed as the ideal female body when in fact there is nothing REAL about it. The bodies on tv that women are told look good have either been worked on under the knife or are completely touched up. This effect is greatest for teenage girls bc at that point you don't really know yourself, and you try in fit in with what's considered "in". Also in the modeling industry there is really skinny or plus size...there is a whole group in between the industry is ignoring. Most woman fall inbtw that range but never see themselves represented so they feel that their bodies are not ok, which is wrong. They feel they have to fit one or the other and most strive to fit in the really skinny model group. I wish there would be more companies like Dove who target real bodies and how they come in all different shapes and sizes. It's a shame when the some girl, size 4/5 is not happy with her body bc she's not a 0. I was there and its not healthy either. If you take a look back in history, women's bodies use to be accepted for what they were. Round stomachs, large breasts, full hips, etc. all showed a healthy wealthy woman. I don't know when it was in to look like you haven't ate in about a month, but I'm not buying that that's attractive. There's nothing wrong with trying to be fit, but I feel like most women have issues with their weight not bc they want to be more healthy but bc they feel like their body has too many flaws.
 
I'm an ectomorph. eat anything I want. :eek:

I disappear when I stand sideways! :D

I'd quickly perish in Darfur.
 
#12PF on 02-16-2008 at 03:33 PM said:
Exactly and thats another reason for so many body issues females face. Women strive to get that ideal hourglass figure, but truth is most women's bodies aren't shaped that way. A lot of times females will target one area and even if they've lost tons of weight in other areas, they still think they haven't lost enough in that particular area (i.e. stomach, etc).Their perceptions are thus skewed. This is also why you see so many women jumping to get breast implants because a flat stomach usually means a flat chest. Perceptions of the ideal body are even more deluded bc of how many images on tv are portrayed as the ideal female body when in fact there is nothing REAL about it. The bodies on tv that women are told look good have either been worked on under the knife or are completely touched up. This effect is greatest for teenage girls bc at that point you don't really know yourself, and you try in fit in with what's considered "in". Also in the modeling industry there is really skinny or plus size...there is a whole group in between the industry is ignoring. Most woman fall inbtw that range but never see themselves represented so they feel that their bodies are not ok, which is wrong. They feel they have to fit one or the other and most strive to fit in the really skinny model group. I wish there would be more companies like Dove who target real bodies and how they come in all different shapes and sizes. It's a shame when the some girl, size 4/5 is not happy with her body bc she's not a 0. I was there and its not healthy either. If you take a look back in history, women's bodies use to be accepted for what they were. Round stomachs, large breasts, full hips, etc. all showed a healthy wealthy woman. I don't know when it was in to look like you haven't ate in about a month, but I'm not buying that that's attractive. There's nothing wrong with trying to be fit, but I feel like most women have issues with their weight not bc they want to be more healthy but bc they feel like their body has too many flaws.

Well put! And here is a big hint to all women everywhere! Most guys, at least those of us who are all growed up, find curves far more attractive than the false image many of you are trying to attain.
Please try to be fit. For your own benefit. Eat smart and exercise regularly to enjoy a healthy, active, and longer life. Yes we knuckle draggers like a fit looking woman. But fit women come in all sizes and shapes.
 
Re: Re: Rant Warning

Spentcartridge on 02-16-2008 at 07:08 PM said:


Did you look like this after losing 7 lbs?

2006sanfran_pics_w2.jpg
:D


LMAO I wish. Well not really. You could make 2 of her out of me :)

Mr JD10367, sorry, a bit of a sore spot (like you couldn't tell). You're perfectly reasonable. It's just that there's so much pressure on young women about appearance and it rarely seems to have a positive effect, especially at a time in our lives when we're all very sensitive about our appearance.
 
#12PF on 02-16-2008 at 03:33 PM said:
A lot of times females will target one area and even if they've lost tons of weight in other areas, they still think they haven't lost enough in that particular area (i.e. stomach, etc).Their perceptions are thus skewed. This is also why you see so many women jumping to get breast implants because a flat stomach usually means a flat chest. Perceptions of the ideal body are even more deluded bc of how many images on tv are portrayed as the ideal female body when in fact there is nothing REAL about it. The bodies on tv that women are told look good have either been worked on under the knife or are completely touched up. This effect is greatest for teenage girls bc at that point you don't really know yourself, and you try in fit in with what's considered "in".

I think that's bullshit.

::: goes to put in some hair coloring gel in the beard, call Hair Club for Men to cure his male-pattern-baldness, order Viagra and penis-enlargement pills, and work on his Abdominizer that he bought on late night TV... ::: :D

Seriously, though... it's interesting how what's considered "sexy" changes. Back in Reubens' day a chubby wife meant a rich husband. Even the ancients; hell, "having the body of a Greek god" meant having a tiny penis and love handles, LOL. As recently as Jayne Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, starlets who were considered "va-va-voom!" couldn't get a job in a Plus-size fashion catalog nowadays. Even Brady's lady Giselle could use a Twinkie or two IMO. From Kate Moss to those People magazine covers that show the "fat stars and starlets" in candid beachwear, it's all about illusion and BS. When, in reality, IMO most of the men out there aren't hard to please, LOL... Anything short of Rosie O'Donnell is pretty much acceptable.
 
I'm pear shape. No matter how skinny my upper body is my hips/thighs are thicker. II don't give a shit now, but when I was younger I thought I was so fat because all I saw was that I wasn't perfect. And I was a fairly confident person with a good social life. I finally got to be the perfect hour glass when I came of age (around 18-19 years) and lost the crazy hormoneness that comes with the teenage years. But it took me working out every day, sometimes 7 days a week with my college softball team, and after that when I started to tweek during the summer after. I am 5'11" and it took my weighing 135 tweekerness to be skinny like I always wanted. No square hips. And it made me so happy. How ****ing lame that that was what made me happy. My ass got kinda huge after having kids and I'm pretty much back to normal now, but I could give a shit less about the flaws I have. I have a new perspective on life, and something real that makes me happy.

When I was a young girl (from about 3rd grade to 8th grade) I was kinda chunky. And when I say chunky I mean the "fat" girl in the mirror. Not fat at all, but not the skinny little girls like my friends were. And everyone made fun of me for it because I didn't stick up for myself and they knew I was an easier target. I think that was the main reason I started letting how I look affect the quality of my life. Which is bullshit.

I am teaching my kids not to give a **** what anyone thinks, because anything can be made into a complex that can screw over your life. And I am making damn sure they not only eat healthy, but learn to eat healthy so that when I am not around they have the right idea. And we always do something physical so they learn that being active is fun.

I didn't really think a lot of Hollywood was plastic, but then I started to watch Dr. 90210 and he had a lot of celebrities in there, ones that seem natural perfect in all aspects. The Dr. says at least 90% of Hollywood is fake. Coming straight from the horses mouth, I beleive it. I watch these plastic surgery shows (there are a few) with my kids so they can see what horrible injury and pain is done to your body is done just for superficial reasons. It freaks them the hell out!!! My 5 year old ran from the living room crying when she saw it. The plan is working, lol!
 
JD10367 on 02-16-2008 at 12:58 PM said:
When, in reality, IMO most of the men out there aren't hard to please, LOL... Anything short of Rosie O'Donnell is pretty much acceptable.

So the girly thread is just fantasy then? :p
 
Jh on 02-16-2008 at 04:00 PM said:
I'm pear shape. No matter how skinny my upper body is my hips/thighs are thicker.

Women always think worse of their appearance than men do. I bet you're hotter than a campfire. :thumb:

I didn't really think a lot of Hollywood was plastic, but then I started to watch Dr. 90210 and he had a lot of celebrities in there, ones that seem natural perfect in all aspects. The Dr. says at least 90% of Hollywood is fake. Coming straight from the horses mouth, I beleive it.

Hell, never mind the plastic surgeons; the make-up artists alone are a problem. There was another thread where we mentioned this, and I said that an hour in a professional make-up artist's chair could probably make any one of the women on this board look like a pinup starlet to the point that they're unrecognizable by their spouse. Whenever you see a "hot starlet" out of makeup you tend to go, "Whoa!! Is that so-and-so?!? She's so plain-looking!" That's why I've always liked girls who don't wear a lot of makeup. It's like the old joke about the guy who goes to bed with a new woman and, as he's waiting, she takes off the eyeliner and mascara and blush and fake eyelashes and earrings and padded bra and heels and hair extensions and he says, "When you get to the part I'm interested in, just throw it over here..."
 
shirtsleeve on 02-16-2008 at 03:43 PM said:
But fit women come in all sizes and shapes.

Exactly. :) I wish females would realize this at a younger age! A sad story is that last year I worked part time at an elementary school, tutoring kids during afterschool, and I can still remember these 4th to 5th grade girls talking about which Victoria Secret model was their favorite. The thing that blew my mind away was how they said that Tyra no longer is their favorite. The reason why? Because she's fat now...they kept talking about how she's so gross because she gained all that weight. I was absolutely shocked. Tyra still has an amazing body, but I guess I forgot how the media's influence can have such a strong force on young minds. It's so true that these ideal images start at a young age (im talking 5 and up). Hell I loved Barbie when I was a little girl, but her body is far from anatomically correct...at least for 99 percent of women with natural bodies
 
JD10367 on 02-16-2008 at 03:58 PM said:
Anything short of Rosie O'Donnell is pretty much acceptable.

ROFL
 
#12PF on 02-16-2008 at 04:29 PM said:
Exactly. :) I wish females would realize this at a younger age! A sad story is that last year I worked part time at an elementary school, tutoring kids during afterschool, and I can still remember these 4th to 5th grade girls talking about which Victoria Secret model was their favorite. The thing that blew my mind away was how they said that Tyra no longer is their favorite. The reason why? Because she's fat now...they kept talking about how she's so gross because she gained all that weight. I was absolutely shocked. Tyra still has an amazing body, but I guess I forgot how the media's influence can have such a strong force on young minds. It's so true that these ideal images start at a young age. Hell I loved Barbie when I was a little girl, but her body is far from anatomically correct...at least for 99 percent of women with natural bodies

Tyra is a great example! She is smoking hot!!!! I dont like her show, but got stuck watching it once a week or two ago. And on that show, they were talking body types and underwear. And she stripped her pants off on the show!!!!Even tho she's bigger now than she was, everything was tight, smooth, and shapely. I might have to start watching if she does stuff like that on the show!!!:D
 
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