MERGED: A look at the UDFA for the Patriots 2017

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Pats signed a bunch 11 so far

Harvey Langi LB
Holister Te Wy
Augusta NT Missouri
Killings CB
Vereen DE Tennessee
 
Augusta is a baby huey type. His weight was always a problem at Missouri. At 370 he's gassed after 4-5 plays but he is effective in the 340 range. He has good strength and he's hard to block but he's running diesel fuel in his engine. There's potential but this poor kid may have a problem with the conditioning test. The Pats are giving him a chance to earn some real money.
He did score a TD vs Fla. in the Refrigerator Perry manner and he's been used as a blocker from the backfield in short yardage situations.

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Adam Butler may have a chance to stick.
Vanderbilt plays a 3-4 defense and Butler is well suited to play defensive end at 6-foot-5, 305-pounds. He’s an athletic two-gap player. Last season he played in every game, starting nine times. He finished with 35 tackles, 7.5 tackles for a loss and 2.5 sacks. He switched from offensive guard to defensive tackle in the spring of 2013. Butler has a knack for a big man in blocking kicks, too. Compared to Augusta, Butler is a track star.

Here's an entertaining video that shows Butler - #69. Warning no bad language but turn the sound down. This fan is LOUD.

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TE Jacob Hollister. 6'4", 240
It's hard to watch Hollister play and not think of AHern - right down to tripping over his own feet. Like AHern, JHollister is a receiver not a blocker.

Here's PFF's scouting report on him.
Stat to know: 25.6 percent of Hollister’s targets in 2016 came on balls thrown at least 20 yards in the air, the fourth-highest rate among all draft-eligible tight ends. Hollister caught seven of those 11 targets for 189 yards and three touchdowns.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-jacob-hollister-te-wyoming/

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WR Cody Hollister, Arkansas.
If bench reps would make him a good receiver Cody would be a star. 29 reps for a 6'3" WR is pretty good. Unfortunately, Cody doesn't have elite speed. It's nice that the twins have a chance to make a club together. Nice move BB.

Both Hollisters can play STs

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I totally missed this earlier.

WR Austin Carr. Played a lot in the slot. 90 rec, 1,247 yards, 12 TDs for Northwestern in 2016. He was PFF's highest graded WR in college for 2016.

He would have probably been my #1 WR target for the Pats if I had finished scouting the WRs for this draft. I'm ecstatic over this signing.

Nasty quick
3 cone - 6.72
SS - 4.04

This signing may spell trouble for Amendola. This kid is really good.
He's a good candidate for the Foxboro Flu
 
chevss454 said:
I totally missed this earlier.

WR Austin Carr. Played a lot in the slot. 90 rec, 1,247 yards, 12 TDs for Northwestern in 2016. He was PFF's highest graded WR in college for 2016.

He would have probably been my #1 WR target for the Pats if I had finished scouting the WRs for this draft. I'm ecstatic over this signing.

Nasty quick
3 cone - 6.72
SS - 4.04

This signing may spell trouble for Amendola. This kid is really good.
He's a good candidate for the Foxboro Flu
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The one that lasts a YEAR? I hear that's wicked nasty!


Cheers
 
chevss454 said:
I totally missed this earlier.

WR Austin Carr. Played a lot in the slot. 90 rec, 1,247 yards, 12 TDs for Northwestern in 2016. He was PFF's highest graded WR in college for 2016.

He would have probably been my #1 WR target for the Pats if I had finished scouting the WRs for this draft. I'm ecstatic over this signing.

Nasty quick
3 cone - 6.72
SS - 4.04

This signing may spell trouble for Amendola. This kid is really good.
He's a good candidate for the Foxboro Flu
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Eventual Edelman replacement?
 
My fav UDFA is David Jones. If he can shed his injury woes, he makes this team.

I also am a fan of Dwayne Thomas. In a sneaky, Logan Ryan, kinda way.
 
A look at the UDFA for the Patriots 2017

http://nesn.com/2017/04/closer-look-at-patriots-stacked-2017-undrafted-free-agent-class/
RB LeShun Daniels Jr., Iowa Height: 5-foot-11 Weight: 222 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.57 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.28 seconds Short shuttle: 4.45 seconds Vertical leap: 36 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 6 inches 2016 stats: 213 carries, 1,058 yards, 10 touchdowns Going deeper: Daniels forced 28 tackles on 213 attempts in 2016, according to Pro Football Focus. He was a team captain as a senior.
WR Austin Carr, Northwestern Height: 6 feet Weight: 202 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.62 seconds Three-cone drill: 6.70 seconds Short shuttle: 4.07 seconds Vertical leap: 33 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches 2016 stats: 90 catches, 1,247 yards, 12 touchdowns Going deeper: Listed as PFF’s seventh-best undrafted free agent, Carr dropped just four passes on 129 targets last season. He had a 69.8 percent catch rate out of the slot.
WR Cody Hollister, Arkansas Height: 6-foot-3 Weight: 214 pounds No workout — foot injury 2016 stats: 10 catches, 140 yards Going deeper: Twin brother of fellow UDFA signing
Jacoby Hollister. TE Jacob Hollister, Wyoming Height: 6-foot-4 Weight: 239 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.64 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.12 seconds Short shuttle: 4.34 seconds Vertical leap: 36 1/2 inches Broad jump: 10 feet, 1 inch 2016 stats: 32 catches, 515 yards, seven touchdowns Going deeper: Listed as PFF’s fifth-best undrafted free agent, Hollister caught seven deep passes for 189 yards in 2016. He dropped just four passes on 43 targets.
OT Cole Croston, Iowa Height: 6-foot-6 Weight: 314 pounds 40-yard dash: 5.29 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.61 seconds Short shuttle: 4.68 seconds Vertical leap: 32 1/2 inches Broad jump: 8 feet, 7 inches 2016 stats: Allowed six sacks in 246 snaps Going deeper: Croston played left and right tackle in 2016 but could switch to guard in the NFL.
OT Max Rich, Harvard Height: 6-foot-7 Weight: 311 pounds 40-yard dash: 5.12 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.18 seconds Short shuttle: 4.51 seconds Vertical leap: 30 inches Broad jump: 8 feet, 9 inches Going deeper: Rich is one of the most athletic offensive tackle prospects in his draft class.
G Jason King, Purdue Height: 6-foot-4 Weight: 303 pounds 40-yard dash: 5.30 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.75 seconds Short shuttle: 4.72 seconds Vertical leap: 31 inches Broad jump: 8 feet, 11 inches 2016 stats: Allowed one sack on 596 pass block snaps in 2016. Going deeper: Ranked well in PFF’s pass block efficiency metric. Bench pressed 225 pounds 35 times at his pro day.
DT Josh Augusta, Missouri Height: 6-foot-4 Weight: 347 pounds 40-yard dash: 5.19 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.90 seconds Short shuttle: 4.87 seconds Vertical leap: 28 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9 feet 2016 stats: 23 tackles, four tackles for loss, one sack, 10 carries, 15 yards, two touchdowns Going deeper: Augusta played at nearly 400 pounds in 2016 but slimmed down for the NFL after fixing a thyroid issue.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2017/04/closer-look-at-patriots-stacked-2017-undrafted-free-agent-class/
 
DT Adam Butler, Vanderbilt Height: 6-foot-4 Weight: 293 pounds 40-yard dash: 5.23 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.51 seconds Short shuttle: 4.90 seconds Vertical leap: 28 1/2 inches Broad jump: 8 feet, 5 inches 2016 stats: 31 tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, four sacks Going deeper: PFF ranked him as the 43rd-best undrafted free agent. He had 32 pressures on 377 pass rush snaps.
DE Corey Vereen, Tennessee Height: 6-foot-1 Weight: 254 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.92 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.50 seconds Short shuttle: 4.47 seconds Vertical leap: 28 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 5 inches 2016 stats: 36 tackles, 11 1/2 tackles for loss, seven sacks Going deeper: Had four QB hits and 28 hurries in 304 pass rush snaps.
LB Harvey Langi, BYU Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 251 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.66 seconds Three-cone drill: 7 seconds Short shuttle: 4.32 seconds Vertical leap: 33 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 10 inches 2016 stats: 57 tackles, five tackles for loss, two sacks, 20 carries, 79 yards, two touchdowns Going deeper: Recorded 25 total pressures on 211 total snaps in 2016. He also dropped into coverage on 36 percent of snaps.
CB D.J. Killings, Central Florida Height: 5-foot-11 Weight: 187 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.48 seconds Three-cone drill: 6.97 seconds Short shuttle: 4.21 seconds Vertical leap: 37 1/2 inches Broad jump: 10 feet, 4 inches 2016 stats: 42 tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, three interceptions, 11 pass deflections, one touchdown return Going deeper: Allowed 36 catches on 75 targets for 477 yards with one touchdown and three interceptions for a 56.4 passer rating against last season.
DB Dwayne Thomas, LSU Height: 5-foot-11 Weight: 196 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.66 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.19 seconds Short shuttle: 4.38 seconds Vertical leap: 33 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 11 inches 2016 stats: 42 tackles, seven tackles for loss, one sack, one interception Going deeper: Recorded five total pressures on just 17 pass rush snaps in 2016.
S David Jones, Richmond Height: 6-foot-1 Weight: 205 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.43 seconds Three-cone drill: 7.31 seconds Short shuttle: 4.32 seconds Vertical leap: 34 inches Broad jump: 10 feet, 9 inches 2016 stats: 29 tackles, .5 tackles for loss, two interceptions, four passes defended Going deeper: Had nine interceptions in 2015 as a junior. His 2016 season was injury-shortened.
S Kenny Moore, Valdosta State Height: 5-foot-9 Weight: 190 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.49 seconds Three-cone drill: 6.86 seconds Short shuttle: 4.13 seconds Vertical leap: 40 1/2 inches Broad jump: 10 feet, 6 inches 2016 stats: 65 tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss, one sack, five interceptions, eight pass breakups Going deeper: Picked the Patriots to win Super Bowl LI and said Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning.
S Jason Thompson, Utah Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 210 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.45 seconds Three-cone drill: 6.57 seconds Short shuttle: 4.01 seconds Vertical leap: 39 1/2 inches Broad jump: 11 feet, 1 inch 2016 stats: eight tackles, one fumble return Going deeper: Thompson was a quarterback at Wyoming before transferring to Utah, where he played on special teams.
S Damarius Travis, Minnesota Height: 6-foot-1 Weight: 206 pounds 40-yard dash: 4.65 seconds Three-cone drill: 6.96 seconds Short shuttle: 4.14 seconds Vertical leap: 33 inches Broad jump: 9 feet, 7 inches 2016 stats: 83 tackles, four tackles for loss, two interceptions, four passes defended Going deeper: Recorded 18 stops with eight missed tackles on 349 run snaps last season.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2017/04/closer-look-at-patriots-stacked-2017-undrafted-free-agent-class/
 
chevss454 said:
Augusta is a baby huey type. His weight was always a problem at Missouri. At 370 he's gassed after 4-5 plays but he is effective in the 340 range. He has good strength and he's hard to block but he's running diesel fuel in his engine. There's potential but this poor kid may have a problem with the conditioning test. The Pats are giving him a chance to earn some real money.
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If he does survive the conditioning test, which appears as a long shot, then he won't see the first preseason game based on this clip.

He stands straight up on the snap on every play, negating his natural advantage. Pro linemen will positively murder him. He's got more problems than just conditioning.

I found that painful to watch and I do hope he did well in school. He's my early leader for first cut of camp.
 
grog said:
Eventual Edelman replacement?
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He has a lot of technique to clean up before going there. Leaves his feet too often. Catches the ball inside his body. Kicks his feet up behind him at the point of the catch. Rounds his cuts too much. Doesn't sink his hips on turns. Loses body control too often for YAC. Poor release from LOS vs press man coverage. These are things that coaching can correct but the first 4 things I listed are naturally difficult to get out of the habit doing. CBs will tear him up in the NFL if he continues to do these things. Edelman learned but he took 2-3 years to do it. Carr will have 1 training camp.
 
chevss454 said:
Augusta is a baby huey type. His weight was always a problem at Missouri. At 370 he's gassed after 4-5 plays but he is effective in the 340 range. He has good strength and he's hard to block but he's running diesel fuel in his engine. There's potential but this poor kid may have a problem with the conditioning test. The Pats are giving him a chance to earn some real money.
He did score a TD vs Fla. in the Refrigerator Perry manner and he's been used as a blocker from the backfield in short yardage situations.
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I like how they circle him on every single play. As if anyone has any doubt which one he is. ROFL
 
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