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NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (0-0) vs. New Orleans Saints (0-0)
Thursday, Aug. 11, 2016 at 7:30 p.m. ET. Gillette Stadium (66,829) Read
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After reporting to training camp on July 27, the New England Patriots will open the preseason at home against the New Orleans Saints on Thurs., Aug. 11 at Gillette Stadium. Prior to the preseason opener, the Patriots will host the Saints for two days of joint practices on Tues., Aug. 9, and Wed, Aug. 10. The 2016 preseason marks the fourth time that New England and New Orleans will practice together prior to a preseason game. The Saints traveled to Foxborough in 2010 and 2012, and the Patriots practiced with the Saints last season at The Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, W.Va. Read
The Patriots and Saints will be facing off in the preseason for the 12th time overall and for the fourth time since 2010. New England holds a 7-4 edge in the series. Read
The Patriots traveled to New Orleans last season for their second preseason game, where they claimed a 26-24 victory on Aug. 22 at The Mercedes-Benz Superdome. Read
SERIES HISTORY

Patriots Chairman and CEO Robert Kraft's first game as owner of the team was a 1994 preseason game at Foxboro Stadium against the Saints. The Patriots won that game 24-6. Read
The two teams will meet this week for the 12th preseason meeting and for second straight season in a preseason contest. Last season, the Patriots held joint practice sessions with New Orleans at their training camp site in West Virginia prior to a Week 2 preseason game in New Orleans on Aug. 22, a game won by the Patriots 26-24.

The Patriots have won the last three preseason contests, with wins at home in 2010, 2012 and at New Orleans in 2015. Read The Patriots and Saints have played 13 times in the regular season with the Patriots leading the all-time series, 9-4. The two teams last played in the regular season in 2013 with the Patriots taking a 30-27 win on Oct. 13 at Gillette Stadium.

TALE OF THE TAPE

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<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="odd"> <th scope="col">2015 Regular Season</th> <th scope="col">New England</th> <th scope="col">New Orleans</th> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Record</td> <td>12-4</td> <td>7-9</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Divisional Standings</td> <td>1st</td> <td>3rd</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Total Yards Gained</td> <td>5,991</td> <td>6,461</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Total Offense (Rank)</td> <td>374.4 (6)</td> <td>403.8 (2)</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Rush Offense</td> <td>87.8 (30)</td> <td>93.2 (24)</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Pass Offense</td> <td>286.7 (5)</td> <td>310.6 (1)</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Points Per Game</td> <td>29.0 (3)</td> <td>25.5 (8)</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Touchdowns Scored</td> <td>52</td> <td>51</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Third Down Conversion Pct.</td> <td>40.9</td> <td>47.7</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Team Passer Rating</td> <td>101.9</td> <td>100.6</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Total Yards Allowed</td> <td>5,431</td> <td>6,620</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Total Defense (Rank)</td> <td>339.4 (9)</td> <td>413.8 (31)</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Rush Defense</td> <td>98.8 (9)</td> <td>129.8 (31)</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Pass Defense</td> <td>240.7 (17)</td> <td>284.0 (31)</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Points Allowed/Game</td> <td>19.7 (10)</td> <td>29.8 (32)</td></tr></tbody></table>
http://www.patriots.com/news/2016/08/10/game-preview-saints-patriots

I'll be watching our OL, Jimmy G and our RBs closely.
On D, I'll be looking at our front 7, especially to see what Flowers, Grissom and Chris Long do from the edge with Nink out for a while.
 
The heat index is supposed to be over 100 tomorrow. This will be a good test of their conditioning and mental toughness.
 
Trey Flowers, a 2015 fourth-round pick who played just one game last season before being placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury, has been standing out in practice at the right time. During full-contact team drills, Flowers is getting into the backfield more than any other Patriots pass rusher. He primarily rushes from the edge, but he’s added interior pressure to his arsenal.
“He didn’t play a lot inside in college,” Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said last week. “I think there was one game against LSU when he was in there, but for the most part he was on the edge, so that’s an adjustment that he’s making. He’s definitely getting better at it. He has quickness and, again, the play-strength, and I would say the mentality to play in there. “It’s just going to come down to experience and getting comfortable. It’s a little bit different. You’re not working against as long of a guy usually at guard, and maybe not as athletic a guy as the ones that play tackle, but there is less space. … So, it’s a little bit different but he’s making progress on it.”
The Patriots likely will use three or four edge defenders on the line of scrimmage on third down this season since they don’t have an interior pass rushing specialist, like Dominique Easley, on their roster anymore. Flowers also could be used on early downs because of his strong run defense. “That was a strength of his at Arkansas, and for not a tall guy, he has long arms, he has some length as a player even though his stature is not exceptionally long, but he has long arms and he plays the run well,” Belichick said.
“He’s a tough kid. All of those guys — Rob, Jabaal (Sheard), Chris (Long), Shea (McClellin), Geneo (Grissom), Rufus (Johnson) — they’re all pretty stout out there, got good playing strength, good length. So, that end position in the running game, so far, I’d say that hasn’t been the major problem for us.”
Flowers hasn’t been able to fully show his ability in the running game or passing game in training camp because defenders can’t tackle or sack the quarterback. So, Flowers is itching to get on the field in the Patriots’ preseason opener Thursday against the New Orleans Saints. “It’s real life. Some of those sacks that you think that you probably had when you pulled up or something, you can actually go in and be engaged and take that extra two more steps to judge a game, judge your real quickness to the ball,” Flowers said. “It’s definitely important.”

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/08/trey-flowers-standing-out-at-recent-patriots-training-camp-practices/
 
Flowers is certainly a guy to watch tonight, particularly when (and if) he lines up opposite Terron Armstead who is one of the better OTs in the league. Armstead recently returned from the PUP list, so he may not be in there for long, but he will certainly test our 2nd year DE. I watched Trey closely last preseason and he has all kinds of tools. It was surprising for me to learn that he had a bad shoulder at that time because he looked really good and Nink's injury presents an opportunity for him to earn more time.

In addition, I'll be looking for a lot of snaps for Joe Thuney as the Pats enjoy throwing rookies with promise to the wolves in the preaseason and challenge them to step up and produce. It will be interesting to watch the distribution of snaps at Center as well to try and get clues to our OL plans.

Tonight will be a night to watch the new guys. Jimmy G. is sure to get plenty of work and you can be sure that we will do nothing in terms of game-planning to boost his confidence. Jimmy will just have to figure out how to look good with backups all over the offense. You want to see Gronk but you will get a large dose of AJ Derby. Bill doesn't believe in holding anybody's hand.

I'm hoping to see plenty of Tyler Gaffney and DJ Foster at RB as well. I'm really curious about Gaffney because he might be able to actually run hard and turn 3 yards into 4. Little things like that make a difference.

I don't know where Kamu Grugier-Hill fits on our roster, but I think that he is a kid that really wants it and will do something to get himself noticed. In general, it seems like our abbreviated draft class has some interesting guys on it and seeing them competing against NFL players is a highlight for me.

I don't look at this as a game as much as a laboratory with plenty of experiments in progress and some of them should be really interesting to watch.

It's new guy time and I'm excited to see all of them.
 
I'm right there with you, Hawg. This isn't about winning. This game is all about evaluating the players to see who plays well enough when it counts to deserve a chance to stick around longer.

Also, it's going to be a hot night

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I'm right there with you, Hawg. This isn't about winning. This game is all about evaluating the players to see who plays well enough when it counts to deserve a chance to stick around longer.

Also, it's going to be a hot night

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Mmmmm.... Pam Gardner. She has some very distracting assets, although she's got to do something about that ET hair.

I'll be hydrating before, during and after...:toast:

I'll have my canopy set up for shade, and plenty of water and adult beverages.
 
I am happy Brady, gronk and edelman are not playing. Really want to get a good look at Jimmy and Jacoby and the receivers. I am hoping for some surprises on defense too with a few break out players. I really love this time of year when the roster starts to solidify and new guys make their mark.
 
I am happy Brady, gronk and edelman are not playing. Really want to get a good look at Jimmy and Jacoby and the receivers. I am hoping for some surprises on defense too with a few break out players. I really love this time of year when the roster starts to solidify and new guys make their mark.

Do we know that Brady is not playing? I haven't read that anywhere and is one of my questions going into tonight.
 
Do we know that Brady is not playing? I haven't read that anywhere and is one of my questions going into tonight.

Yes. It has been reported by several outlets. He is not expected to play.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...plan-to-sit-tom-brady-in-first-preseason-game

That being said, you never know if Bill might have him play a series or two like last year. But given Gronk and Edelman are out no reason to play him IMO. Give Jimmy the work and get a nice look at Brissett. That is what I am hoping for anyways.
 
I am happy Brady, gronk and edelman are not playing. Really want to get a good look at Jimmy and Jacoby and the receivers. I am hoping for some surprises on defense too with a few break out players. I really love this time of year when the roster starts to solidify and new guys make their mark.

Do we know that Brady is not playing? I haven't read that anywhere and is one of my questions going into tonight.

Just saw that Schefter is citing an inside source for this report.
Assuming the source is not F'ing with him, it will be great to see JG play with the 1's and 1A's.
 
Hoping to catch a few glimpses of the game between clearing and setting tables. Thursday nights are usually really busy.
 
10 Players to watch tonight. Kyed

Here are 10 Patriots players to watch closely in Thursday night’s game.

QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO Garoppolo started the summer scorching hot but since has cooled off, completing just 55.8 percent of his passes with three interceptions in his last five practices. Garoppolo has proven to be a gamer in his first two NFL seasons and could put any concerns aside with a strong preseason opener against the Saints. He’ll get plenty of reps, since Tom Brady isn’t expected to play.

RB TYLER GAFFNEY This is the farthest Gaffney has made it into an NFL season without being placed on injured reserve. He’s been receiving a ton of carries in training camp and figures to be the Patriots’ primary back in the second half against the Saints. It will be interesting to see what he can do with the ball in his hands against NFL defenders.

WR MALCOLM MITCHELL Mitchell has had a propensity for impressive catches in training camp and should have success against the Saints’ reserve defensive backs. Mitchell could carve out a role this season with an impressive preseason.

TE A.J. DERBY Derby was placed on injured reserve last summer early in training camp, so he, like Gaffney, hasn’t played in an NFL game yet. He’s a solid athlete with good playing strength.

G JOE THUNEY Thuney likely will start at left guard for the Patriots and go up against the Saints’ starting defense. That will be a great test for the rookie, who is projected to protect Garoppolo and Brady as a starter this season.

DE TREY FLOWERS Flowers stood out in three preseason games last season but only suited up for regular season action once before being placed on injured reserve with a bum shoulder. He now has a chance to carve out a role with Rob Ninkovich nursing a triceps injury. Flowers should receive pass rushing opportunities from the edge and the inside.

DE GENEO GRISSOM Grissom, like Flowers, didn’t make much of an impact on defense as a rookie last season. It’s unclear what role he will play in the Patriots’ defense, whether that’s as an outside linebacker, edge defender or interior rusher.

DE/LB SHEA MCCLELLIN McClellin projects as the top player to replace Ninkovich because he has a similar skill set as a linebacker/defensive end. He has to prove he regularly can produce pressure on the edge.

LB KAMU GRUGIER-HILL Grugier-Hill is undersized for an NFL linebacker at 6-foot-2, 215 pounds. He should be solid in coverage against running backs and tight ends.

CB CYRUS JONES Jones should receive a ton of snaps both as a returner and cornerback against the Saints. He’ll likely match up against fellow second-round pick and Saints receiver Michael Thomas on defense. We’ll be watching to see how well he handles punts and kicks in the return game and whether he can make any explosive plays.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2016/08/malcolm-mitchell-among-10-patriots-to-watch-in-saints-preseason-game/

I'll add
Chris Long
Grissom
the entire OL
Jonathan Jones
all the rookie WRs
all the veteran WRs, esp Dobson
Knighton

Oh, hell, I'm watching everybody.
 
Five Patriots whose names you'll know after tonight

By Phil Perry August 11, 2016 10:25 AM
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FOXBORO -- There are 90 players on the Patriots roster at the moment. If you're like most consumers of Patriots media, there's no way you can name them all. And that's OK.
But tonight marks the first preseason game of 2016 for Bill Belichick's club, and inevitably there will be a heretofore unknown who will put together a performance that make you sit up on your couch, raise an eyebrow and say, "This guy's a player!"
With that in mind, here are five names who may be unfamiliar to you for only a few more hours...

DeAndre Carter, WR: This 5-foot-8, 190-pound receiver has stood out in training camp despite his diminutive stature. He's shown good quickness, an ability to create separation with his route-running, and the quarterbacks seem to trust him with throws in traffic. Carter was signed to the Patriots practice squad in December and then re-signed on a future deal in the offseason, giving him a bit of a head start on some of the team's other new wideouts when it came to grasping the playbook. Belichick said recently that Carter, who was an All-American at Sacramento State in 2014, has a "Troy Brown type of build" and can compete both on the outside and in the slot.
"He’s done well," Belichick added. "He’s a good kid, he works really hard, has some return ability. Has pretty good playing strength for his size. He’s a shorter player, but he has some playing strength to him, so that compensates for it a little bit. He’s continued to kind of impress us as he’s gained more experience and really is a hard-working kid and a great kid to have on the team."

Rufus Johnson, DE/OLB: The Patriots appear to be very deep on the edge with Jabaal Sheard, Rob Ninkovich (out with a torn triceps muscle), Chris Long, Shea McClellin, Trey Flowers and Geneo Grissom all competing for reps. But don't forget about Johnson, who may have briefly grabbed your attention right around this time last year. He recorded two sacks, four quarterback hits and two pass breakups during preaseason play last summer and made the 53-man roster, but he was later placed on the reserve/non-football injury list, ending his season in October after dealing with an illness.
The 6-foot-5, 280- pounder was lauded by Belichick last season, who said Johnson "has a lot of things going for him." Defensive coordinator Matt Patricia said last year that Johnson is "explosive, he’s long, he’s strong and he can create some problems for an opponent just with his combination of skill set."

Jonathan Jones, CB: Seemingly every year there is an undrafted rookie free agent who turns heads in training camp and ends up making the team. Last year it was center David Andrews. Two years ago it was corner Malcolm Butler. This year it could be Jonathan Jones. He's had up-and-down moments in camp thus far, but he's in competition for a potential roster spot that seems to have no clear-cut favorite at the moment. Jones, Justin Coleman, Darryl Roberts, V'Angelo Bentley, Cre'Von LeBlanc and EJ Biggers are all candidates to join Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan and Cyrus Jones in the cornerback meeting room this fall. What could help Jonathan Jones separate himself is his speed -- he ran a blazing 4.33-second 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine -- and a level of toughness that belies his 5-foot-9, 190-pound frame.
"He’s a tough kid," Belichick said recently. "We saw that at Auburn. He tackled well. I’d say he plays big for his size, he’s not afraid, he’s a tough, competitive kid that’s willing to support in the running game and in the kicking game, very competitive on the ball. Again, his speed and overall awareness puts him in position to have the opportunity to play some balls. That’s half the battle right there, being in position to do it. He’s been very competitive on the ball and shown good speed, good toughness, as he did in college."

For Hawg
Ted Karras, OL: For those of you who geek out at the sight of old-fashioned offensive line play -- and I know you're out there -- keep an eye out for No. 75. The sixth-round pick out of Illinois has already shown a propensity for finishing plays with an edge and we haven't even seen him in a live game situation yet.
He's seen work at right guard with the first team with Jonathan Cooper out, and he served as a backup center when Bryan Stork was unavailable. He's even seen a handful of snaps at tackle. By the time the regular season rolls around, Karras could be the type of player the Patriots trust to sub in at two or three different spots in an emergency situation. He may not be quite as ready for starter reps as fellow rookie Joe Thuney, but there's value in what Karras brings to the table.
For Schrutes
Markus Kuhn, DL: When the first-team Patriots defense has taken the field during training camp, all the familiar faces have been there: Butler, Ryan, Ninkovich, Sheard, Dont'a Hightower, Jamie Collins, Patrick Chung, Devin McCourty and Malcom Brown. Oftentimes right next to Brown, however, has been a more unfamiliar figure at 6-foot-4, 315 pounds, and with long hair flowing out of the back of his helmet. That's Kuhn, the team's other German-born player who signed with the Patriots this offseason after being released by the Giants. Now that Alan Branch is back in the fold, Kuhn has jostled for reps with him as well as with Terrance Knighton and rookie Vincent Valentine, but he seems to be a player for whom the Patriots want to provide a legitimate opportunity. He's 30 years old, but because his collegiate football career at North Carolina State began late after he arrived from Europe, Belichick believes Kuhn is still improving.
"Markus is a young player in terms of experience," Belichick said earlier this week. "He’s a little older [in age] because of his situation, but a young player that’s still getting better. Works hard, smart, a good, tough kid. He has good playing strength. He played well for the Giants. We played against him last year and evaluated him prior to our game and also in our game. He’s very competitive out there with that group . . . The contact certainly in terms of the offensive and defensive lines is something we’ve seen a lot more in training camp, but it’s a little bit different in the game so we’ll see how that goes for everybody."
http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/five-patriots-whose-names-youll-know-after-tonight-0

I'll add DJ Foster, Kyler Kerbyson and Gaffney
 
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