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Someone here was spot on about that earlier this week I believe. Would explain a lot of things. It’s never a good sign when a WR goes a full season of games and only averaged 8 yards per reception like JuJu did…,,
Still can't see the forest for the trees can you?
 

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I see a bunch of 2019 and 2020 articles about his broken knee. It's why he's missed so many games.
He missed 12 games because of a shoulder injury not a knee.

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Oct 31, 2015Non-NFLHand Metacarpal FractureSmith-Schuster fractured his right hand against Cal, which required surgery to install a plate and screw. He still played the following game.
Aug 5, 2016Non-NFLHand Finger DislocationSmith-Schuster dislocated his right pinky but played through the issue.
Aug 5, 2016Non-NFLPedal Toe SprainSmith-Schuster sprained his right big toe in practice. He was ready by the season opener.
Aug 11, 2017NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster left near end of the 1st quarter in the preseason opener with a concussion. He sat out the next exhibition.
Nov 16, 2017NFLThigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed Week 12 with an unspecified hamstring injury.
Oct 22, 2017NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed minimal time in Week 7 and returned for Week 8.
Nov 14, 2019NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster sustained a concussion during a Week 11 clash with the Browns. He missed one game
Nov 14, 2019NFLKnee Patella SprainSmith-Schuster suffered a left knee injury in Week 11 against the Cleveland Browns. He missed four games due to the injury
Sep 23, 2020NFLKnee Strain Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed practice for two days ahead of the Week 3 game with a knee injury. He was good to go for the game against the Texans.
Nov 22, 2020NFLPedal FootSmith-Schuster suffered a foot injury during Week 11's game against the Jaguars. He was active for the next game.
Sep 26, 2021NFLChest Rib BruiseSmith-Schuster suffered a rib injury in the Week 3 game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Oct 10, 2021NFLShoulderSmith-Schuster injured his right shoulder injury during Week 5's game against the Broncos. He missed 12 games
Aug 16, 2022NFLKnee BruiseSmith-Schuster (knee) has "turned the corner" and should be fine for the start of the regular season, Herbie Teope of The Kansas City Star reports.
Nov 13, 2022NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1JuJu took a helmet to helmet hit against Jacksonville.
 

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He missed 12 games because of a shoulder injury not a knee.

Injury History​

DateLeagueInjuryDetails
Oct 31, 2015Non-NFLHand Metacarpal FractureSmith-Schuster fractured his right hand against Cal, which required surgery to install a plate and screw. He still played the following game.
Aug 5, 2016Non-NFLHand Finger DislocationSmith-Schuster dislocated his right pinky but played through the issue.
Aug 5, 2016Non-NFLPedal Toe SprainSmith-Schuster sprained his right big toe in practice. He was ready by the season opener.
Aug 11, 2017NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster left near end of the 1st quarter in the preseason opener with a concussion. He sat out the next exhibition.
Nov 16, 2017NFLThigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed Week 12 with an unspecified hamstring injury.
Oct 22, 2017NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed minimal time in Week 7 and returned for Week 8.
Nov 14, 2019NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1Smith-Schuster sustained a concussion during a Week 11 clash with the Browns. He missed one game
Nov 14, 2019NFLKnee Patella SprainSmith-Schuster suffered a left knee injury in Week 11 against the Cleveland Browns. He missed four games due to the injury
Sep 23, 2020NFLKnee Strain Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed practice for two days ahead of the Week 3 game with a knee injury. He was good to go for the game against the Texans.
Nov 22, 2020NFLPedal FootSmith-Schuster suffered a foot injury during Week 11's game against the Jaguars. He was active for the next game.
Sep 26, 2021NFLChest Rib BruiseSmith-Schuster suffered a rib injury in the Week 3 game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Oct 10, 2021NFLShoulderSmith-Schuster injured his right shoulder injury during Week 5's game against the Broncos. He missed 12 games
Aug 16, 2022NFLKnee BruiseSmith-Schuster (knee) has "turned the corner" and should be fine for the start of the regular season, Herbie Teope of The Kansas City Star reports.
Nov 13, 2022NFLHead Cranial Concussion Grade 1JuJu took a helmet to helmet hit against Jacksonville.


That’s a LONG list of injuries. JuJu is less durable and less reliable than Jakobi was. You’re failing to prove this is an improvement. It is not an improvement over Jakobi. It also has risks including injury risk plus whether this guy can pick up the playbook and fit in

article: JuJu’s knees clearly an issue
 

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If the Pats do not make another move at WR, what I am hoping is not necessarily hat Juju has a 90+ catch, 1,300 yard season, so much as that he and Bourne put together a Patton and Givens (neither of them WR1's) had in 2004. If that happens, we'll all be happy.
I think they will, either a trade or draft pick. They simply cannot ignore the offensive fire power in their division. If they are going to compete, they need more.
 

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In fairness, after the complete disaster last year was, Bill deserves the skepticism. That said I'm not hating what he's done so far.

Pats went 8-9 last year which is not good. And still might be last in the division compared to rivals. There are blind homers here for sure.

Still waiting to see a solution found at OT, CB1, FS, MLB, and NT
 

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That’s a LONG list of injuries. JuJu is less durable and less reliable than Jakobi was. You’re failing to prove this is an improvement. It is not an improvement over Jakobi. It also has risks including injury risk plus whether this guy can pick up the playbook and fit in

article: JuJu’s knees clearly an issue
Sep 23, 2020NFLKnee Strain Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed practice for two days ahead of the Week 3 game with a knee injury. He was good to go for the game against the Texans.
2020Pittsburgh Steelers16 games14 starts97 receptions831 yards8.6 yard average with a QB who was at best just average31yard long for same reason9-TDs
Where do you see his knees being an issue.
 

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Sep 23, 2020NFLKnee Strain Grade 1Smith-Schuster missed practice for two days ahead of the Week 3 game with a knee injury. He was good to go for the game against the Texans.
2020Pittsburgh Steelers16 games14 starts97 receptions831 yards8.6 yard average with a QB who was at best just average31yard long for same reason9-TDs
Where do you see his knees being an issue.

Seems like you can’t read so I’ll repost it



But you’re right. He also has a long list of head and shoulder injuries too. Less durable and less reliable than Jakobi
 

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Seems like you can’t read so I’ll repost it



But you’re right. He also has a long list of head and shoulder injuries too. Less durable and less reliable than Jakobi
You just can't admit you are wrong. Jakobi had plenty of injuries also But the Patriots didn't list every time a player got a minor bump or bruise
Between 2015 and 2019 JuJu missed 5 games Jakobi missed 5 games between 2018 and 2022. First 4 seasons for each player You don't know how Jakobi will hold up over the next 2-3 seasons.
 
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I see Juju had a patella luxation like Mahomes did a couple of years ago which requires ongoing therapy but it's not debilitating & shouldn't still be a problem.
And a knee sprain. Minor.

The concussions are more worrisome. Fortunately they're all only Gr. 1.

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler "believing" there's a knee issue means nothing. That article is 2 years old.
Besides, he had a thorough physical before he was signed as all signees do.
 

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I see Juju had a patella luxation like Mahomes did a couple of years ago which requires ongoing therapy but it's not debilitating & shouldn't still be a problem.
And a knee sprain. Minor.

The concussions are more worrisome. Fortunately they're all only Gr. 1.

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler "believing" there's a knee issue means nothing. That article is 2 years old.
Besides, he had a thorough physical before he was signed as all signees do.
Some people only see what the want to.
 
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