The Matt Patricia sucks vs Mac Jones sucks thread.

Coach currently on staff? If that's the case, move Patricia to the booth now. Let's not wait.

I doubt if it's happening now but even if it were happening we'd never know about it bc it would be embarrassing to Patricia and secondarily to BB for picking him to begin with.
 
I doubt if it's happening now but even if it were happening we'd never know about it bc it would be embarrassing to Patricia and secondarily to BB for picking him to begin with.
I get it. But man oh man if Bill isn’t already embarrassed….
 
He actually could thrive in this role...in my opinion.
If Bill actually thought that, Patricia would already be there. The story of the off-season will be if Bill actually moves him or lets him go. I am not certain either will happen unless Kraft forces it.
 
The “Covid“ season can be tossed. So really are we that far along into a rebuild? The key to fixing this team as of this point is what happens during this off-season with regard to the staff. We should know pretty quick after the bills game what is going to happen. If Bill intends to try to continue with the current staff, there will be many many many many many many many calls for him to be replaced himself. As hard as it is for me to say this, I’ll be first in line. No fully functioning head coach can watch what’s going on and think it can be fixed.
Why would we toss the covid season, did their brains stop working at the time? There was a draft, there were signings, and players played and coaches coached. If you want to toss out the W/L record fine, that's understandable, but it didn't stop the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills from building. Anyway the point is this doesn't feel like a rebuild, it feels like a team just trying to keep it's head above water year after year. Rebuilds have a progression, and what we've seen this year is a complete reset of the offense and not in a good way, alienating their "Franchise QB" in the process, and not something I see getting much better next year or worse, another reset. For a team supposedly rebuilding, explain the point of trading a draft pick for a Dolphins cast off receiver? And not some bottom of the draft pick but a 3rd rounder.
 
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Wow, even Wilfork is getting fed up with the hissy fits,

I'm sorry, when respected former players like Jules and Vince were calling you out; take some heed of this Mac, for your own sake. These guys are storied players in Patriots history, and they know Bill way better than you do. if they're tired of this, I have no doubt Bill is feeling this way too.

Boston.com - “I’m tired of that, honestly. I’m tired of it,” Wilfork said of Jones’s antics. “You’re the leader of this team. You’re a quarterback. So you can’t be frustrated every single week, every single play. I don’t care if you’re getting the play called in late or whatever it may be. At the end of the day, you have to show some poise because you do operate the ship. You’re the head of the ship when you’re out there.

“Control what you can control,” Wilfork added. “That’s all you can do. But I’m tired of seeing him throwing a fit.”
 
Like I keep saying I dont care if he throws fits. You just can't go 13/31 against basically no defense and miss wide open TDs...and also throw fits.

Exactly. He pitched a hissy at Patricia both right before and after he missed Smith with a pass that looked like he fired it from a
tee-shirt cannon.

When you whiff on a throw like that it's probably best to just keep your mouth shut.
 
Nick Caley is a likely candidate.
Nick Caley coaches two TEs, where one of them is not productive.
If they use Caley, they should trade Mac and bring in an experienced QB like Flaco and Caley can learn from the QB.

I would rather they bring in an experienced OC. And the OC doesn't have to be a BB guy. For the best for the Patriots you need to bring in the best OC.

Remember Kraft wanted progression into the playoffs.
 
Nick Caley coaches two TEs, where one of them is not productive.
If they use Caley, they should trade Mac and bring in an experienced QB like Flaco and Caley can learn from the QB.

I would rather they bring in an experienced OC. And the OC doesn't have to be a BB guy. For the best for the Patriots you need to bring in the best OC.

Remember Kraft wanted progression into the playoffs.
I probably jumped the gun in my haste to stop the damage that is getting worse. It would be better to get a really experienced guy.
 
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That's all very well, but how am I meant to get there on the ridiculous opening hours (Monday morning 0300 to 0301 Eastern Time, unless the moon is visible, in which case everything is shut)?

Furthermore, I was told by your extremely unhelpful Customer Service Idiot Mr C.Urmudgeon that I had to have been born in Massachusetts before the Pilgrim Fathers landed.

Oh, and let's not get started on the written proof of this...
 
Mac or “pudding” as I call him is at best an average QB being coached by an idiot. Plus he’s used to being surrounded by talent in college which makes his sense of entitlement worse.
I’ve never cared for Mac Pudding Jones. He’s soft. I didn’t like him when the cigar picture came up, and not in the “he is our QB1” thread. I keep saying he’s average, but I don’t even know that he’s ever been average.
We are watching a bowl of vanilla pudding being coached by a bowl of dogsh****t…
The results are predictable.
 
Nick Caley coaches two TEs, where one of them is not productive.
If they use Caley, they should trade Mac and bring in an experienced QB like Flaco and Caley can learn from the QB.

I would rather they bring in an experienced OC. And the OC doesn't have to be a BB guy. For the best for the Patriots you need to bring in the best OC.

Remember Kraft wanted progression into the playoffs.

Nick Caley is useless
Asiasi and Keene were cut
Jonnu and Henry underused
and 2019 had league worst TE production by the Pats

Nick Caley sucks. Another John Carroll dope
 
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I loved BB last two drafts . I can’t say the same about his FA moves or Trades. The exception of Henry & Judon . He needs to change his approach . Going just after Vaule only works . If your getting production.
 
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