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At least you're consistent. I'll give you that.Meyers is the only WR drafted by this franchise in 12 years who was worth a damn and they let him walk to sign an overrated washed JAG. At least Meyers was homegrown.
At least you're consistent. I'll give you that.Meyers is the only WR drafted by this franchise in 12 years who was worth a damn and they let him walk to sign an overrated washed JAG. At least Meyers was homegrown.
a guy at 26 on his 3rd team who was a 2nd rounder is someone who gives me pause. i've defended them with guys like meyers, edelperson, branch, mitchell who i think would have been great, etc. and i not someone who thinks they need an OMGWTFBBQ11!a1! star wr! but it's a position they do value differently and it can be a slog.Are you calling juju a retread? Curious.
Ironically, Jakobi Meyers is the best recent example of the Patriots finding a wide receiver and developing him. UDFA.
I was thinking recently, they should focus on what they have and make sure Thornton puts up 800+ yards next year and Bourne puts up 800+ yards. Otherwise Thornton was a 2nd round bust pick. Maximize time coaching this kid up, make Thornton a focus for the staff. His skill set is a deep threat, deep route tree guy who can release and attack the deep corners. Thornton isn’t a short field player and also too frail. Bourne is the intermediate guy, put up elite WR metrics before landing in Fatt Matt’s doghouse.
Your correct this board Does have homers. It also has Brady Era Fans. Every post is a Negative & F BB . I liked Myers he's a #3 option. That was forced to be #1. He could excell in Vegas. Adams is the #1 option.Absolutely. Homers. Up until 12 hours ago were making up stuff about how maybe Meyers didn’t want to be here or chose elsewhere (see his own tweet). Or how the Pats want YAC (then why underuse Bourne and Jonnu).
This was not a net positive, it’s bringing Jakobi-like production with more volatile personality, less leadership, less durability/reliability, and also risk if JuJu can even pick up the playbook seamlessly.
The Pats just let one of their best homegrown , reliable, locker room leaders go. Following the losing Red Sox playbook now I see
Here. In 2019 and 2020 JuJu couldn’t even beat out younger guys. Had poor yards per reception and did not emerge as a leader in a young WR corps. Jakobi produced despite having garbage around him and still getting catches against #1 receivers
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I don’t disagree that the Patriots have treated the WR position similarly to how the rest of the NFL currently treats the running back position.a guy at 26 on his 3rd team who was a 2nd rounder is someone who gives me pause. i've defended them with guys like meyers, edelperson, branch, mitchell who i think would have been great, etc. and i not someone who thinks they need an OMGWTFBBQ11!a1! star wr! but it's a position they do value differently and it can be a slog.
BS, there are quite a few of us that have never defended Jonnu Smith, why would we, he didn't contribute jack to this team. Stop throwing this garbage around when you don't agree with people, it does nothing for this forum.Everyone who I see liking this Ju Ju signing was defending Jonnu Smith right up until he was traded.
The blind in BB we trust syndrome in this forum is unreal.
Ju Ju is washed. This is a bad signing.
And getting Hopkins will not make up for this. He is old. The cardinals are smart to move on. He’s got at most a season of good games left as a true number one.
The pats are not contenders for a Super Bowl next season. We need young guys who can develop. Or at least be around for 5 years.
Meyers is the only WR drafted by this franchise in 12 years who was worth a damn and they let him walk to sign an overrated washed JAG. At least Meyers was homegrown.
Ugh. I hate Juju.
Is he really better than Meyers? I think they botched this one.
PointThey couldn't have wanted him that badly, geez.
Just wait. As soon as they bring someone else in, Rivshark will point out that he was only available because someone let him go and if someone let him go it means he is washed up and his knees are shot.Then please tell us who they should bring in.
Guys, it's March 16. Plenty of road ahead of us ...
Tom without Bill = 35-17 regular season (3 seasons), 2 divisional titles, 3 playoff appearances, 5-2 playoffs, 1 SB ring
Bill without Tom = 42-44 regular season (5+ seasons), 0 divisional titles, 1 playoff appearance, 0-1 playoffs, 0 rings
Tom Brady is the greatest football player in the 97-year history of the NFL. - Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what you have been watching but nothing about last season says washed up. He had 78 receptions for 933 yards a 12 yard per catch average and a long for 53 yards.Have you watched Ju Ju? For real.
He is washed. This is a desperation move.
I’m gonna bow out of this thread cause I know a lot of this board disagrees with me out of reflex.
If BB adds Hopkins or Odell to this WR corps I’m going to be completely disgusted, and in a year the Pats will be in the same spot of needing to bring in and develop young talent at the position.
Hopkins does have some juice left at least.
KC picked him up for 1 year knowing they would not be able to keep him he player his rookie contract in Pittsburgh.a guy at 26 on his 3rd team who was a 2nd rounder is someone who gives me pause. i've defended them with guys like meyers, edelperson, branch, mitchell who i think would have been great, etc. and i not someone who thinks they need an OMGWTFBBQ11!a1! star wr! but it's a position they do value differently and it can be a slog.
That was the report and feeling on him coming out of USC, a real team player who works hard.KC picked him up for 1 year knowing they would not be able to keep him he player his rookie contract in Pittsburgh.
JuJu Smith-Schuster has taken two trips through free agency over the last two offseasons. In each instance, the USC product signed well below what most free agent wide receivers have been going for. In 2021, Smith-Schuster re-signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers on a one-year contract for $8 million. He reportedly took less money to remain in Pittsburgh, rather than signing elsewhere with larger offers. Then last offseason, JuJu Smith-Schuster once again inked a one-year deal to join the Kansas City Chiefs. The pass catcher had a maximum value of around $10 million on his new contract. Though, the Chiefs made this deal highly incentivized, with his 2022 guaranteed salary coming in at $2.49 million, per Spotrac.
To see him do that not once, but twice, is rare for a pass catcher in today’s day and age. JuJu Smith-Schuster was also on Kansas City’s radar for both of the last two offseasons. In fact, Kansas City was one team that reportedly offered the wide receiver more money than Pittsburgh in 2021. That multiple year history of taking discounts to help out the hometown team, so to speak, creates an intriguing perspective. It simply shows that Smith-Schuster will do anything to help out his team.
ok what the hell do you do with Mazz?Guys, it's March 16. Plenty of road ahead of us ...
seems good to meLooks like Juju's contract is 3 year, 25.5MM base including roster bonuses. There are incentives for receiving yards each year, up to 1.5MM in 2023, up to 3MM the other years, which would bring it to 3/33MM if he hits all of them.
Salaries are low this year, 7MM next year, and 6.5MM at club option for 2025.
It's basically a 2-year contract worth up to $20.5MM, with about $16MM guaranteed. Club option for year 3, which would be $6.5MM salary, $1MM in roster bonuses, and up to $3MM in incentives.
Cap hits:
2023: 4.7
2024: 10.6
2025: 10.1 (2.6MM dead cap if option not picked up)
I hear his name a lot. Think he was most productive in Pitt with Big Ben. I guess he’s an upgrade over Meyers. Hope they are not done at the WR position in FA.
3rd, in 2020, Juju was terrific. 97 rec., over 800 yds