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The Patriots 2023 Preseason Thread - OTAs and Mini Camp
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aloyouis
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I also think there is a tendency to gloss over the end of Mac's rookie year when the team went 1-3 with the only win coming against the train wreck that was Jacksonville under Urben Meyers. Mac's pocket presence and ability to feel the rush and see the field have always been in question IMO. He has thrown far too many picks IMO to LBs and safeties.
I think when we got a chance to see Zappe play last year it kind of opened our eyes or at least my eyes to Mac's deficiencies. Zappe threw with much more anticipation, saw the field better and often found the right match up when going through his progressions for easy gains. He also was better in the pocket in terms of stepping up or sliding around to create space and a lane for throwing.
I am interested to see how Mac performs under BOB. While I was in favor of signing BOB, I also don't think he is in the same league as Josh when it comes to game planning. I think all of us perhaps want BOB to be the answer to what was an absolute dumpster fire last year with the offensive coaching but as I have said before, the coaches can only do so much. I do think BOB is going to take an awful lot of heat when the offense struggles as it ultimately will during stretches of the season because of the lack of any real threats or play makers not to mention the Oline which is pretty scary right now.
And there is a tendency to gloss over other players. BoB has a history and relationship with Mac, that is a plus in my book since Josh likes to travel from team to team.
We will see. I have positive feels that this will be a better season than last, that is MHO
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ffs take the "L"
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Awe come on. You know the clown hides Mazz’ post from me.ffs take the "L"
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BTW Urben Meyers. was no longer the jags coach at that game. In those three games the Patriots did score 91 points and gave up 90. So what is your issue that they lost to a very good Buffalo team or a solid Miami team?
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Right, because he was fired. I already stated my point. Folks here to seem to glorify Mac's rookie season. It was a fine season but he and the team cratered at the end of the season including the worst playoff loss of Bill's career. If you take out the Jags game, the team was outscored 140-79 in its final 4 games.
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Patriots rookies making wide receiver depth chart interesting in training camp
The Patriots would be forgiven for not selecting a playmaker earlier than the sixth round of the 2023 NFL Draft if they can hit on one of their rookie wide receivers.
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FOXBORO — Rookie wide receiver Demario Douglas’ 1-on-1 drills have been must-watch spectacles through the first two weeks of training camp.
Douglas is undefeated — a perfect 8-for-8 — in the drills so far. The 5-foot-8 wide receiver can put his foot in the ground, break and suddenly gain a quarter-field of separation on his defender when matched up individually.
Half of those wins have come against one of the quickest players on the team in cornerback Marcus Jones, who’s a brave soul for trying to take on Douglas any chance he can get.
“He’s a quick guy, for sure,” Jones said Tuesday. “We’ve just been going at it every single time. Whenever I see him go up there, I try to go against him, he’s trying to go against me. Just trying to make each other better.”
Douglas, a 2023 sixth-round pick, credited Jones with making him faster. The rookie has also beaten cornerbacks Christian Gonzalez, Myles Bryant, Rodney Randle and Shaun Wade in the 1-on-1 drills. Douglas’ win over Bryant came in a red-zone drill Tuesday on an in-route when his sudden quickness left the slot cornerback facing the wrong direction and static while the rookie wideout easily hauled in quarterback Mac Jones’ pass.
The key, according to Marcus Jones, is that Douglas never loses his momentum.
“I would say definitely his quickness, making sure he knows how to stem,” Jones said when asked what makes Douglas so difficult in those 1-on-1 assignments. “And then also getting out of his breaks. He’s real quick. He doesn’t slow down. Some receivers in their rookie year slow down out of their breaks, but he keeps it going. That’s a great thing to have.
“And then also taking the coaching,” Jones added. “Coaches say something one time and he’s right on it, making sure that he’s trying to perfect it. So that’s a great thing to have.”
Douglas has become a favorite target of backup quarterback Bailey Zappe in full-team competitive drills throughout training camp. He has two recent catches from starter Mac Jones, as well, as he appears to be ascending up the wide receiver pecking order.
“I’m getting opportunity working with either quarterback, whoever I go with,” Douglas said. “As long as I get an opportunity, I say I try to maximize every time I’m in, going 1s, 2s or 3s.”
It was notable to see Douglas earn time with the Patriots’ quarterbacks, wide receivers JuJu Smith-Schuster, DeVante Parker, Kendrick Bourne and Tyquan Thornton and tight ends Hunter Henry and Mike Gesicki on Tuesday while the rest of the team worked on kickoff drills. He did muff a punt on Tuesday and took a lap around the practice field, but the team feels he’s had a really good training camp. The reason he’s earned more reps with starters — and why he’s spending time with starting quarterback Jones rather than backups Zappe and Trace McSorely early in practice — is that the team is rewarding a player they feel is performing well.
It bears watching how the wide receiver depth shakes out before Week 1 in just over a month. Douglas has more catches from Jones over the past week than second-year pro Tyquan Thornton. Thornton had a solid day of practice Tuesday, however, winning both of his 1-on-1 drills over Wade and Gonzalez and catching three passes during full-team drills.
“Better than last year,” Belichick said Tuesday before practice about Thornton. “Much better idea of what to do, how to do it, how to prepare, what to expect. Smart kid, works hard, understands a lot.”
Smith-Schuster, Parker, Bourne and Thornton — as a 2022 second-round pick — all seem like locks for the 2023 roster. But Douglas is pushing Thornton for reps in practice, and fellow 2023 sixth-rounder Kayshon Boutte has shown special traits in practice after a slow start to training camp. Boutte hauled in one of the best catches of training camp Monday on a somewhat errant throw from rookie quarterback/wide receiver Malik Cunningham. Boutte leaped in the air and hauled in the pass one-handed in the corner of the end zone.
Thornton has the pedigree to earn another year in the offense though he’s missed time this summer and been on the receiving end of one too many pass breakups. Boutte could force the Patriots to keep a sixth wide receiver.
Boutte has made an especially strong push in the last week. He fell to the sixth round due to an injury, a poor showing at the NFL Scouting Combine and off-field concerns, but he’s shown enough of the skills that once made him a five-star recruit coming out of high school to potentially convince the Patriots that he’s worth continuing to develop.
The Patriots open preseason Thursday at Gillette Stadium against the Houston Texans. Expect to see a lot of Douglas and Boutte as Belichick said, “The players who are least experienced will get the most playing time.”
If the Patriots hit on Boutte or Douglas, the team would be forgiven for not selecting a playmaker earlier than the sixth round of the 2023 NFL Draft.
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Patriots rookies making wide receiver depth chart interesting in training camp
The Patriots would be forgiven for not selecting a playmaker earlier than the sixth round of the 2023 NFL Draft if they can hit on one of their rookie wide receivers.
FOXBORO — Rookie wide receiver Demario Douglas’ 1-on-1 drills have been must-watch spectacles through the first two weeks of training camp.
Douglas is undefeated — a perfect 8-for-8 — in the drills so far. The 5-foot-8 wide receiver can put his foot in the ground, break and suddenly gain a quarter-field of separation on his defender when matched up individually.
Half of those wins have come against one of the quickest players on the team in cornerback Marcus Jones, who’s a brave soul for trying to take on Douglas any chance he can get.
“He’s a quick guy, for sure,” Jones said Tuesday. “We’ve just been going at it every single time. Whenever I see him go up there, I try to go against him, he’s trying to go against me. Just trying to make each other better.”
Douglas, a 2023 sixth-round pick, credited Jones with making him faster. The rookie has also beaten cornerbacks Christian Gonzalez, Myles Bryant, Rodney Randle and Shaun Wade in the 1-on-1 drills. Douglas’ win over Bryant came in a red-zone drill Tuesday on an in-route when his sudden quickness left the slot cornerback facing the wrong direction and static while the rookie wideout easily hauled in quarterback Mac Jones’ pass.
The key, according to Marcus Jones, is that Douglas never loses his momentum.
“I would say definitely his quickness, making sure he knows how to stem,” Jones said when asked what makes Douglas so difficult in those 1-on-1 assignments. “And then also getting out of his breaks. He’s real quick. He doesn’t slow down. Some receivers in their rookie year slow down out of their breaks, but he keeps it going. That’s a great thing to have.
“And then also taking the coaching,” Jones added. “Coaches say something one time and he’s right on it, making sure that he’s trying to perfect it. So that’s a great thing to have.”
Douglas has become a favorite target of backup quarterback Bailey Zappe in full-team competitive drills throughout training camp. He has two recent catches from starter Mac Jones, as well, as he appears to be ascending up the wide receiver pecking order.
“I’m getting opportunity working with either quarterback, whoever I go with,” Douglas said. “As long as I get an opportunity, I say I try to maximize every time I’m in, going 1s, 2s or 3s.”
It was notable to see Douglas earn time with the Patriots’ quarterbacks, wide receivers JuJu Smith-Schuster, DeVante Parker, Kendrick Bourne and Tyquan Thornton and tight ends Hunter Henry and Mike Gesicki on Tuesday while the rest of the team worked on kickoff drills. He did muff a punt on Tuesday and took a lap around the practice field, but the team feels he’s had a really good training camp. The reason he’s earned more reps with starters — and why he’s spending time with starting quarterback Jones rather than backups Zappe and Trace McSorely early in practice — is that the team is rewarding a player they feel is performing well.
It bears watching how the wide receiver depth shakes out before Week 1 in just over a month. Douglas has more catches from Jones over the past week than second-year pro Tyquan Thornton. Thornton had a solid day of practice Tuesday, however, winning both of his 1-on-1 drills over Wade and Gonzalez and catching three passes during full-team drills.
“Better than last year,” Belichick said Tuesday before practice about Thornton. “Much better idea of what to do, how to do it, how to prepare, what to expect. Smart kid, works hard, understands a lot.”
Smith-Schuster, Parker, Bourne and Thornton — as a 2022 second-round pick — all seem like locks for the 2023 roster. But Douglas is pushing Thornton for reps in practice, and fellow 2023 sixth-rounder Kayshon Boutte has shown special traits in practice after a slow start to training camp. Boutte hauled in one of the best catches of training camp Monday on a somewhat errant throw from rookie quarterback/wide receiver Malik Cunningham. Boutte leaped in the air and hauled in the pass one-handed in the corner of the end zone.
Thornton has the pedigree to earn another year in the offense though he’s missed time this summer and been on the receiving end of one too many pass breakups. Boutte could force the Patriots to keep a sixth wide receiver.
Boutte has made an especially strong push in the last week. He fell to the sixth round due to an injury, a poor showing at the NFL Scouting Combine and off-field concerns, but he’s shown enough of the skills that once made him a five-star recruit coming out of high school to potentially convince the Patriots that he’s worth continuing to develop.
The Patriots open preseason Thursday at Gillette Stadium against the Houston Texans. Expect to see a lot of Douglas and Boutte as Belichick said, “The players who are least experienced will get the most playing time.”
If the Patriots hit on Boutte or Douglas, the team would be forgiven for not selecting a playmaker earlier than the sixth round of the 2023 NFL Draft.
Douglas and Boutte, 2 guys I was very happy to see the Patriots draft this year. My guys.
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BTW Urben Meyers. was no longer the jags coach at that game. In those three games the Patriots did score 91 points and gave up 90. So what is your issue that they lost to a very good Buffalo team or a solid Miami team?
this is one reason you lack credibility. you said this then backtracked. TAKE....THE..."L".Mazz22 said:
aloyouis
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Question: Why do the final four games matter more than the first 13?
Answer: because Mazz needs them too to make a point.
Question: Why does Lawrence get a pass for his shit show of a rookie year with an inept HC but Mac takes all the blame for last years inept OC.
Answer: See previous answer.
Okay, I take Barmore, Mapu and Christian G.( You didn't say we had to stop at one)
Flagg the Wanderer
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79 points in 4 games is essentially 20 per. That's just a FG less than the average ppg in the NFL in 2021.
Of course, they were playing all four against winning teams, not to mention against the #1, #1, #9, and #16 scoring defenses - scoring at or above those defenses' season average in 3 of the 4 games, BTW - in December.
Or were you blaming the 140 points against on Mac?
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How did you feel about people who glossed over Tom Brady going 2-4 in his last 6 games of 2019?
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