Dan Quinn mind-bogglingly says no regrets

[NSPatsFan]

http://sportsnaut.com/2017/02/dan-quinn-says-doesnt-regret-calls-made-stretch-super-bowl-li/

Atlanta Falcons head coach Dan Quinn was in command of the biggest Super Bowl meltdown in history, but he remains convinced he made the right calls down the stretch.

“Dan Quinn said he doesn’t regret the calls after reviewing the Super Bowl film. He regrets the outcome of those plays,” ESPN’s Vaughn McClure passed along.

I guess this isn't surprising from a guy who twice now has failed to run when he should have in the Super Bowl but still, do you guys think he's just covering for Shanahan or is he really that stupid?

I mean I'm just a dumb 22 year football fan but I will freely admit to anyone who asks they had us dead to rights. On our 22 yard line 1st and 10, they run it 3 times and kick the field goal they are most likely Super Bowl Champions. We could have come back, but an already herculean task would have been much harder.

Falcons fans are not happy with this one, lol.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/to...ver-calls-made-down-stretch-in-super-bowl-li/

 

[TommyD420]

http://sportsnaut.com/2017/02/dan-quinn-says-doesnt-regret-calls-made-stretch-super-bowl-li/

I guess this isn't surprising from a guy who twice now has failed to run when he should have in the Super Bowl but still, do you guys think he's just covering for Shanahan or is he really that stupid?

I mean I'm just a dumb 22 year football fan but I will freely admit to anyone who asks they had us dead to rights. On our 22 yard line 1st and 10, they run it 3 times and kick the field goal they are most likely Super Bowl Champions. We could have come back, but an already herculean task would have been much harder.

Falcons fans are not happy with this one, lol.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/to...ver-calls-made-down-stretch-in-super-bowl-li/

To be fair, Dan Quinn had nothing to do with Marshawn Lynch getting the ball, or not, on 2nd and Goal from the 1.

 

[NSPatsFan]

To be fair, Dan Quinn had nothing to do with Marshawn Lynch getting the ball, or not, on 2nd and Goal from the 1.

Yeah, but he should have learned from it.

 

[Roberto71]

Our guys aren't immune from strange calls either. Right before halftime when we were driving in their territory, 3rd down and we have that limp screen pass to Bennett who went backwards...I mean WTF was that? And giving the ball to LG when he was running in treacle didn't help either.

 

[Mazz22]

How Quinn can look at that series of calls when the Falcons were on the 22 with under 5 minutes to go and they pass and feel that was fine is beyond me. I really believe the Pats won this game more than the Falcons lost but that series was terrible situational coaching.

 

[Roberto71]

How Quinn can look at that series of calls when the Falcons were on the 22 with under 5 minutes to go and they pass and feel that was fine is beyond me. I really believe the Pats won this game more than the Falcons lost but that series was terrible situational coaching.

I guess some people just get greedy or convince themselves that now is the tome to be bold and finish the game off completely. So pass the ball, get the TD and it really is game over. What they forget is there's a time and place for that. They overthink things sometimes.

 

[Mazz22]

I guess some people just get greedy or convince themselves that now is the tome to be bold and finish the game off completely. So pass the ball, get the TD and it really is game over. What they forget is there's a time and place for that. They overthink things sometimes.

He is Petey's disciple too and Petey has said he has no regrets about that pass call so the apple I guess does not fall far from the tree. If I was an Atlanta fan, I would be really upset that he sees no fault in the coaching staff at all just in the players. That is pretty lousy on his part.

 

[Roberto71]

He is Petey's disciple too and Petey has said he has no regrets about that pass call so the apple I guess does not fall far from the tree. If I was an Atlanta fan, I would be really upset that he sees no fault in the coaching staff at all just in the players. That is pretty lousy on his part.

Again, this is where Bill earns the absolute trust of his players. If Bill did that, he would stand up in front of the media and totally blame himself for making a bad call. The likes of Quinn and Arians, throw their guys under a bus. That gets noticed I would imagine very quickly by players.

 

[mikiemo83]

I love the calls Dan Quinn made, keep doing it like that Dan, keep doing it like that.

 

[Oswlek]

I'm not sure he should have any. After the punt, NE went 91 yards in 2:30, and that was without a TO and intentionally killing about 30 seconds of clock. I see no reason to think a more urgent pace couldn't have gone 75 in 1:30, which would have given them plenty of time to win in regulation after a successful onside kick. Sure the latter isn't likely, but it isn't unheard of.

By contrast, a first down - even if it ends in yet another FG try - pretty much ends the game. Add in the fact that NE was stuffing their run and that the sack didn't murder their scoring chance until the penalty was tacked on top of it, and the decision isn't as obvious as hindsight makes it appear. Even reasonable choices can still lead to bad results.

Two other things that warrant mention. History is littered with examples of teams turtling after getting into FG range only to see the kick drift wide. Also, it is fair to say that the Patriots probably would have passed there as well, they just wouldn't have called such a slow developing play.

 

[Beaglebay]

Regret is a waste of time.

 

[Claremonster]

Since they just fired their DC and DL coach, I'd imagine there are some regrets

 

[BostonTim]

Regret is a waste of time.

If only you hadn't said that.



Cheers, BostonTim

 

[mikiemo83]

Regret is a waste of time.

...I've had a few, but then again too few to mention.....

 

[Darth Despot]

I watched Inside the NFL last night, and while it was certainly Patriots Porn it also provides some insight into the Falcons thought processes. I still think they were dumb, but in the context of who they are, it makes more sense (to Belichick too ;-))

 

[chevss454]

I'm not sure he should have any. After the punt, NE went 91 yards in 2:30, and that was without a TO and intentionally killing about 30 seconds of clock. I see no reason to think a more urgent pace couldn't have gone 75 in 1:30, which would have given them plenty of time to win in regulation after a successful onside kick. Sure the latter isn't likely, but it isn't unheard of.

By contrast, a first down - even if it ends in yet another FG try - pretty much ends the game. Add in the fact that NE was stuffing their run and that the sack didn't murder their scoring chance until the penalty was tacked on top of it, and the decision isn't as obvious as hindsight makes it appear. Even reasonable choices can still lead to bad results.

Two other things that warrant mention. History is littered with examples of teams turtling after getting into FG range only to see the kick drift wide. Also, it is fair to say that the Patriots probably would have passed there as well, they just wouldn't have called such a slow developing play.

I agree with every word and especially the part I bolded. The holding penalty is really what cost them the FG opportunity. So rather than blame Quinn or little Shanny, I credit the sensational effort by Chris Long for making the hold necessary.

 

[deec77]

Originally Posted by Oswlek View Post
I'm not sure he should have any. After the punt, NE went 91 yards in 2:30, and that was without a TO and intentionally killing about 30 seconds of clock. I see no reason to think a more urgent pace couldn't have gone 75 in 1:30, which would have given them plenty of time to win in regulation after a successful onside kick. Sure the latter isn't likely, but it isn't unheard of.

By contrast, a first down - even if it ends in yet another FG try - pretty much ends the game. Add in the fact that NE was stuffing their run and that the sack didn't murder their scoring chance until the penalty was tacked on top of it, and the decision isn't as obvious as hindsight makes it appear. Even reasonable choices can still lead to bad results.

Two other things that warrant mention. History is littered with examples of teams turtling after getting into FG range only to see the kick drift wide. Also, it is fair to say that the Patriots probably would have passed there as well, they just wouldn't have called such a slow developing play.

I agree with every word and especially the part I bolded. The holding penalty is really what cost them the FG opportunity. So rather than blame Quinn or little Shanny, I credit the sensational effort by Chris Long for making the hold necessary.

This exactly. The series before was a run play that got stopped and the the incredible catch by Jones. They were going for the TD and figured the worst case would be was a field goal.

~Dee~

 

[O.Z.O.]

http://sportsnaut.com/2017/02/dan-quinn-says-doesnt-regret-calls-made-stretch-super-bowl-li/

I guess this isn't surprising from a guy who twice now has failed to run when he should have in the Super Bowl but still, do you guys think he's just covering for Shanahan or is he really that stupid?

I mean I'm just a dumb 22 year football fan but I will freely admit to anyone who asks they had us dead to rights. On our 22 yard line 1st and 10, they run it 3 times and kick the field goal they are most likely Super Bowl Champions. We could have come back, but an already herculean task would have been much harder.

Falcons fans are not happy with this one, lol.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/to...ver-calls-made-down-stretch-in-super-bowl-li/

Yeah, but he should have learned from it.

How Quinn can look at that series of calls when the Falcons were on the 22 with under 5 minutes to go and they pass and feel that was fine is beyond me. I really believe the Pats won this game more than the Falcons lost but that series was terrible situational coaching.

Atlanta did what they did all year here. Turtling was no guarantee, just like Seattle handing the ball to Lynch a couple years ago was no guarantee. This is why the games are actually played.

Since they just fired their DC and DL coach, I'd imagine there are some regrets

supposedly this was "in the works" before the Super Bowl

 

[Digit]

Part of the thought process that Dan Quinn (or Kyle Shanahan might be having): http://www.givemesport.com/980717-one-big-tactical-change-lead-to-patriots-winning-super-bowl-51 If that adjustment was basically 'try and run on -this-', then it's probably not much of a wonder why Atlanta didn't run much.

 

[O.Z.O.]

Part of the thought process that Dan Quinn (or Kyle Shanahan might be having): http://www.givemesport.com/980717-one-big-tactical-change-lead-to-patriots-winning-super-bowl-51 If that adjustment was basically 'try and run on -this-', then it's probably not much of a wonder why Atlanta didn't run much.

I liked this. It makes an obvious point...they didn't run because at that point they couldn't. You can take the whole "all they need to do was take 3 knees and kick a FG" stance all you want, but that's disruptive to your normal mindset. That stuff matters and can have an adverse effect.