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RI Patriot Fan said:
I see....so if I was "culturally" catholic and proclaimed the virtues of pornography, debauchery, promiscuity, fornication, drug use and gluttony, I'd still be "disconnected" with posters here? LOL...now that is funny. Thanks for the laugh.
BTW, let the snake attack.....I have no fear of that snake. That snake's venom can do me no harm whatsoever.
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but I am tired of cutting the head off the snake so I stepped in, not to protect you but to silence the typical responses. I am not intending to bring religion into this for it carried no weight in this discussion. I must say that your on screen persona is what disconnects you from others or at least from myself.

RIPF:666 said:
BTW, you bascially agreed with my earlier premise when you said...."it is the evil within the person waiting to be released". So the bar itself may not be evil, but it is what's commonly known in Catholicism as an "ocassion of sin".....basically a place, thing, person or event that can lead people into doing evil (aka sin). That bar encourages the destructive behavior...although it cannot create it. Why do you think AA groups don't meet in bars? Why do you think they meet together in a group (and many times in a church)? Because they understand that people, places, and circumstances affect us and how we deal with the "evil" within us.
My advice to the OP is sound....avoid the people, places, things, and events associated with smoking. My observation was also sound that many of these bad habits seem to be interrelated, seemed to feed off each other, and seemed to taker place around certain types of people, places, and events.
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the Evil isn't the bar or the cigar shop it is within the person. I do not blame others for my habits, I accept responsibility for them as I am the one who decided to do whatever it may be.

I find the 'avoid all evil' excuse as a just that, an excuse so you can continue, with a built in escape clause, the habit.


Life is complicated and the avoidance of anything that may tempt you is not abstaining from it but hiding from it because you are not strong enough to just say 'no thank you'. I think if instead of hiding from it that one embraced it the struggle would be easier and this is based on watching two smokers quit the same day, both were 5 pack a day smokers and Smoker A needed to for medical reasons and embraced the fact he could never smoke again while the other, Smoker B, only quit to show solidarity with the other. Sadly for the next 20 years Smoker B craved his Parliments, each and every day was a stuggle to stop yet Smoker A just walked away and never once did he regret his decision.

Both worked in a bar for 10 of those years, yet neither one ever picked up again - so was it the $1 bet between them or was it the will power, no matter how strong the urge to pick one up, that they had that allowed this to happen?


I think what the OP needs is to vent, he needs encouragement for a job well done but if it was me, what I wouldn't need was an excuse and I see your comments as nothing more than an excuse that would enable someone to pick up again. One must be strong for oneself
 
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TBrownslady said:
Soooo gunrunner how's the cravings going today? LOL Did you try chewing gum when you get a craving or I know someone who ate swedish fish when they were craving a cigarette.
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funny fact


do you know the Jessica Simpson is addicted to Nicorette Gum?

I saw it on Leno, I think it was Jay - all those late night show blow
 
mikiemo83 said:
funny fact


do you know the Jessica Simpson is addicted to Nicorette Gum?

I saw it on Leno, I think it was Jay - all those late night show blow
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I didn't know this lol Does that stuff even taste good? I do know it's expensive as hell for soem chewing gum!
 
I'm thinking instead of suffering ,just taking a big rip off a pipe full of green weed......Any thoughts?:insane:
 
It took me about 5 times trying until I was able to quit. I think it was Dec 2005. It was brutal bit nicorette helped. Then I was on the nicorette until late 2007. Now I never even think about smoking or chewing nic gum, even when hammered. So maybe it takes a couple of years to get it out of one's system? Also, I'm not Catholic.
 
PatJew said:
It took me about 5 times trying until I was able to quit. I think it was Dec 2005. It was brutal bit nicorette helped. Then I was on the nicorette until late 2007. Now I never even think about smoking or chewing nic gum, even when hammered. So maybe it takes a couple of years to get it out of one's system? Also, I'm not Catholic.
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I have heard it takes a few attempts to finally get it right....this time I know for a fact that I can't have even one without returning to smoking....Lets hope number eights the charm....thanx for the support guys and gals....:toast:
 
PatJew said:
It took me about 5 times trying until I was able to quit. I think it was Dec 2005. It was brutal bit nicorette helped. Then I was on the nicorette until late 2007. Now I never even think about smoking or chewing nic gum, even when hammered. So maybe it takes a couple of years to get it out of one's system? Also, I'm not Catholic.
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PatJew isn't Catholic?!?!?!?!?!?!


OMG
 
mikiemo83 said:
funny fact


do you know the Jessica Simpson is addicted to Nicorette Gum?

I saw it on Leno, I think it was Jay - all those late night show blow
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Give Craig Ferguson a shot. He's hilarious. He rags on himself all the time. Once in awhile it gets stupid but I find myself laughing out loud a lot.
 
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