Looking at the Patriots - 2020

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Yeah I read on Rotoworld this morning it was “bone on bone” wasn’t very specific after that.
 
rivshark86 said:
I don’t think cam would look this bad with any other offense in the NFL. His top option wouldn’t make it out of training camp for some of the best teams in the league. He hasn’t been great, but what can you realistically expect?
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No other team wanted Cam.
 
Inspector_50 said:
Nobody signed him, but I think at that time, everyone was pretty set at QB or at least what they were willing to go into the season with.
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He was released in March. Carolina signed Teddy to replace him. The Chargers went with Tyrod Taylor. The Colts signed Rivers. Winston signed as a back up with the Saints. The Bears traded for Foles.
No one even wanted Cam as a back up. Bill signed him on June 28 at a bargain because no one wanted him. We pretty much got what we paid for.
 
Mazz22 said:
He was released in March. Carolina signed Teddy to replace him. The Chargers went with Tyrod Taylor. The Colts signed Rivers. Winston signed as a back up with the Saints. The Bears traded for Foles.
No one even wanted Cam as a back up. Bill signed him on June 28 at a bargain because no one wanted him. We pretty much got what we paid for.
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Well we still have a young guy and next years draft. I suspect this is what all that rebuilding talk that other teams do is about.
 
Inspector_50 said:
Well we still have a young guy and next years draft. I suspect this is what all that rebuilding talk that other teams do is about.
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Yeah. Cam was just a band-aid. I assume we will target someone in the draft next year and then start the rebuild. It is what it is. Every team goes through it eventually.
 
Mazz22 said:
Yeah. Cam was just a band-aid. I assume we will target someone in the draft next year and then start the rebuild. It is what it is. Every team goes through it eventually.
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Of course. I mean look at my redsox. I try to only remember the good times as much as I can. Rebuilding isn't so bad, its like getting a new girlfriend. Ok maybe that was not a good example.
 
Mazz22 said:
He was released in March. Carolina signed Teddy to replace him. The Chargers went with Tyrod Taylor. The Colts signed Rivers. Winston signed as a back up with the Saints. The Bears traded for Foles.
No one even wanted Cam as a back up. Bill signed him on June 28 at a bargain because no one wanted him. We pretty much got what we paid for.
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Yeah but you're forgetting the effect Covid had on player visits in mid-March through mid-June and that he was coming off injury. He couldn't be given a physical; no team was certain he was healthy to play. He couldn't be brought in for a try out and doctors couldn't go examine him for teams. It was a tough situation for him. By the time Covid let up a little all the other teams had already signed their guys. Cam was left with no one but the Pats or he was waiting for an injury to a QB to create some demand.
 
chevss454 said:
Yeah but you're forgetting the effect Covid had on player visits in mid-March through mid-June and that he was coming off injury. He couldn't be given a physical; no team was certain he was healthy to play. He couldn't be brought in for a try out and doctors couldn't go examine him for teams. It was a tough situation for him. By the time Covid let up a little all the other teams had already signed their guys. Cam was left with no one but the Pats or he was waiting for an injury to a QB to create some demand.
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Yeah it was a weird time for players. I will say if he has a desire to play for another team next year, he might want to pick his game up a bit. Word on the street is that he never recovered from shoulder surgery. I do not think thats the case, but GM's are funny people.
 
I think that 2 week lay off set him back quite a bit. His foot mechanics and familiarity with the play book both suffered.
He said as much yesterday.
 
chevss454 said:
I think that 2 week lay off set him back quite a bit. His foot mechanics and familiarity with the play book both suffered.
He said as much yesterday.
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Yeah I don't know. The talking heads are breaking things down right and left, showing guys open that are being missed, and bad passes, but who knows. One good week this weekend and I imagine that all goes away.

Just read this from a guy that is usually pretty positive.
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Patriots have been historically bad during three-game losing skid

New England has been outscored 77-28 during a rough stretch that has it in danger of missing the postseason for the first time since 2008.
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Big/Sky/Fly said:
Scam only had one good year...2015.
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Not by any definition. He had a very good rookie season, named to the Pro Bowl. He broke Peyton Manning's record of 3,739 yards passing for a rookie. In the game against the Saints, Newton became the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards.

He has most player of the week awards in a single season, 5, tied with Tom Brady....

He's a good QB, he can get to that high level again if he can get back on track and stay injury free.
 
Big/Sky/Fly said:
Scam only had one
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Roberto71 said:
Not by any definition. He had a very good rookie season, named to the Pro Bowl. He broke Peyton Manning's record of 3,739 yards passing for a rookie. In the game against the Saints, Newton became the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards.

He has most player of the week awards in a single season, 5, tied with Tom Brady....

He's a good QB, he can get to that high level again if he can get back on track and stay injury free.
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I think Jackson tied that record. Its funny that most player of the week awards are Brady, Newton and Jackson. One of these things is not like the other. :unsure:
 
chevss454 said:
Yeah but you're forgetting the effect Covid had on player visits in mid-March through mid-June and that he was coming off injury. He couldn't be given a physical; no team was certain he was healthy to play. He couldn't be brought in for a try out and doctors couldn't go examine him for teams. It was a tough situation for him. By the time Covid let up a little all the other teams had already signed their guys. Cam was left with no one but the Pats or he was waiting for an injury to a QB to create some demand.
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True. But he was posting videos showing he was healthy. No FAs had physicals and we're still signed even ones that had been injured. Cam's tenure in Carolina did not end well. It wasn't just his injuries but also his play. Literally no one wanted him even as a back up. I hated the signing because his game did not suit our offense and he can be a head case. Both of those things seem to be proving true. It was a last ditch signing by Bill because Stidham was not ready. I still can't believe Bill let our Qb situation get this dire knowing he was not extending Brady.
 
It’s pretty rare a power running QB who’s missed almost two years due to injuries, who’s over the age of 30, to come to a team with the worst offense in the league outside of the QB position and be successful.
Not to mention that josh is terrible at calling plays. I can’t wait for era of coaching staff to be over. Please do not let josh be Bills successor.
 
Boy, Bill seems a bit more open this year between that and his comments on the Edelman injury.
 
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