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Was the drafting of Tim Tebow smart

  • Yes McDaniels will mold him into a franchise QB

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • No Tebow is not and will not be an NFL QB

    Votes: 11 50.0%
  • Send KnowMo back to the ASSylum

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • Total voters
    22

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What is the consensus here on Josh McDaniels drafting him?

Figured I would get more votes in my poll if I posted it up here where the freebirds fly.
 
You should have put up another option:

He will play at QB but will not be great or even very good.
 
From the games I've seen him play, he has never shown me anything that makes me think he can be a successful NFL QB. I'm sure he is a great person, leader, and a winner .... but there have been guys like that who have failed before. And they didn't have Tim's faults as a passer.

SSDD
 
It's "edition" not "addition"
 
Jamarcus Russell?

:fire:

SSDD

Oh come on, we don't know that yet. I actually kinda hope he does ok. I know I have been as harsh on tebow as anyone, but I don't think he asked to be put into that position and I think he has handled it real well. I cannot imagine the media just ripping on your team every day for picking you, that has to kill the confidence level.
 
Steve Young

This is kind of what I was thinking. It usually takes running QBs in college quite a while to develop into a good NFL QB. Steve Young and Rich Gannon are two that come to mind. As long as they don't throw him in right away and expect too much, I think he stands as good a chance as anyone, of developing into a very good QB. It likely won't be for a few years, though.
 
Josh McDaniels compared Tim Tebow to Tom Brady.

Paige: McD says Tebow has the "It" factor

<!--subtitle--><!--byline-->By Woody Paige


Tim Tebow has IT.

Not if.

And he gets it.

So says Josh McDaniels.

"I think the thing about Tim is what everybody calls the 'It'. There are those kind of people that have that 'It,' " the coach said emphatically this week in his office at Dove Valley. On the wall beside McDaniels' desk is a large TV, and frozen on the flat screen was Tim Tebow, in his orange Broncos practice jersey with a football by his left ear — a start button for throwing a pass.

McDaniels looks at the image of the Broncos' rookie quarterback and compares Tebow's "It" factor to another quarterback he directly coached for five seasons in New England.


"When Tom (Brady) came to us in 2001, I wasn't on the offensive side of the ball, but I can remember the feeling in the building was that he had something that nobody else had . . . and how strongly he felt that ultimately he would be a great player. It was obviously apparent in subsequent seasons.


"I think when you get a guy, and he's waiting for me to tell him he's going to be a great player, we might be waiting a long time," he said.

McDaniels respected the confidence Brady showed then and admires the confidence Tebow shows now.

"That confidence affects everybody," he said. "We could see it last week at rookie camp. There were a bunch of rookies out there with no confidence, except him. He's got such confidence that he will just not let himself fail.

"And that quality sometimes is very underrated. There are people with a great deal of God-given ability who are fun to watch, and it's really interesting to see what kind of seasons they'll put together. Then there are guys who will say they won't fail, our team's not going to fail, and they have a 'I'm not going to let you down' attitude. And that's what you notice with Tim."

NFL scouts, coaches and analysts offered two alarming criticisms about Tebow the quarterback: his long, looping delivery and his lack of arm strength.
McDaniels has no concern about either. The Monday before the draft, McDaniels and other members of the organization flew to Florida to decide if Tebow would be their man.

"We spent seven hours with him, and I came away thinking that everybody keeps talking about the thing I think we can fix — that's my job as a coach — and nobody's talking about the things we don't have to teach him because he already has all that.
"I was struck by his intelligence, the way he understands the game, how I can have a great football conversation with him. I didn't have to sit there and draw it up. I would say, 'If they do this, here's what I want you to do,' and he says, 'I got it, Coach.' "
McDaniels implies that Tebow could play quarterback for the Broncos sooner rather than later.

"To me, (Tebow's acumen) gives him an advantage, an opportunity to play earlier than other people have played. Everybody keeps talking about it will be two, three years before he can play, and I think they don't know this guy. His mental capacity, and the way that he works, and the fact that he's on such a fast pace, will give him the chance to compete apples-to-apples.

"It's all going to be about his production and performance. There are a lot of rookies who can't run plays because they can't figure it out yet. That's not going to be the case with Tim. He'll be able to do the things (veterans) do."
During that final visit with Tebow, the coach began to explain the Broncos' offensive terminology, and the quarterback picked it up immediately. When McDaniels quizzed the QB about defensive fronts, Tebow proved he could recognize every variation and how to respond.

"You know what Tim doesn't know about our playbook?" McDaniels asked, then answered. "Only what we haven't told him yet."
And when Tebow threw at his private workout, McDaniels knew he wanted to figure out a way to wheel and deal in the first round to get him.
In Florida and at rookie camp, Tebow "threw into the wind, with it, across it, and there were no issues," McDaniels said. When Tebow threw long, "he would be looking, looking, then stand up, without winding up and all that stuff, throw 60 yards, just like that. He's got a really strong arm."

McDaniels points his remote control at the television, and Tebow is brought to life. Back and forth, fast forward, rewind, the coach reveals the rookie's throwing motion.
The problem with his delivery, McDaniels said, was not as much the left arm action as the right side body reaction. Tebow's nonthrowing arm was flailing, and his right side was bailing out. He's corrected the throwing motion and cocked position, is releasing the ball quicker, and has eliminated the inaccurate sidearm passes. McDaniels had Tebow tuck his right elbow, straighten his shoulders and concentrate on forcing the "15" (on his jersey front) to fall off (figuratively) when he throws.

"See, he's doing it, after just a couple of days," McDaniels said, looking at the screen.

"What's it going to be like after 65 practices? He gets it."

IT is happening with Tim Tebow.

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This is kind of what I was thinking. It usually takes running QBs in college quite a while to develop into a good NFL QB. Steve Young and Rich Gannon are two that come to mind. As long as they don't throw him in right away and expect too much, I think he stands as good a chance as anyone, of developing into a very good QB. It likely won't be for a few years, though.

Its hard to know. Young was a great passer in college. One thing Tebow said that kinda got me off his case. He said, he played the way he was told to play in college, that does not mean that is all he can do, he just did what the coaches asked him to do just like he will at the Pro level.
 
Tebow isn't going to be any differant than any other freshly drafted QB entering the league.

We will have no idea how well he is going to do until we actually see him play.
 
Mine as well. Unless they craft an offense based on the jump pass.

That would be awesome.


I would be shocked if McDaniels didn't put several versions of this into his goal line package. I suspect that he will build a short yardage/Goal line package for Tebow featuring the talents that made him so dangerous in college including power/zone QB/RB combos, play-action (including the infamous jump passes) and some simple quick game passing.

McDaniels doesn't have a franchise QB right now. He can use his starter (be it Quinn or Orton) in combination w/Tebow to put defenses in the position of having to prepare for both as well as preparing for Tebow as a runner in a spread environment. He is a very good runner; very good and using him in a limited numbers philosophy doesn't put your starter at risk. IMO Tebow could be dangerous in that type of role this season.
 
I have no idea if Tebow will be great or not but I do think that he has a good offensive HC and a very good set of intangibles and seems to have the football smarts so if he doesn't succeed it will be only because he didn't have the physical ability to adapt his game to the pro game. A lot of players with physical ability don't have the other two things (Russell?) so this should be fairly easy to evaluate (fewer variables)once Tebow starts playing.
 
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