Raiders Prepared to offer Brady 60 Million

[HipKat]

Report: Raiders prepared to offer Tom Brady two-year, $60 million deal - Full Story

We have an actual dollar figure attached to the swirling rumors of various Tom Brady free agency landing spots.

The Brady-to-Las Vegas speculation has been out there since TB12 was spotted chatting up Raiders owner Marc Davis at the Connor McGregor-Cowboy Cerrone fight in Vegas last month. Now, veteran NFL reporter Larry Fitzgerald Sr. (father of the Arizona Cardinals wide receiver) reports that Davis' Raiders are prepared to offer TB12 a two-year, $60 million deal.

It's interesting to note that Larry Fitzgerald Jr., like Brady, is a long-time interviewee of Jim Gray on Westwood One's broadcasts of Monday and Thursday night NFL games.

 

[chevss454]

I just can't get into any of these rumors with TB until I know what the Patriots are thinking. If Brady wants to reach FA, then he will. But I also believe he will give the Patriots a chance to match any offer. Whether or not the Patriots match is something I can't control. Either way, IBIT.



https://nesn.com/2020/02/are-raiders-really-about-to-offer-tom-brady-two-years-60m-contract/

 

[BradyGirl]

Heh, yes, the reading of the tea leaves can get ridiculous!

 

[patswin]

I have not looked but do the Raiders have the cap space?

 

[NFL-Know]

I have not looked but do the Raiders have the cap space?

Raiders currently have 51.8M in cap space https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/. Raiders will have to get at least another brinks truck to get Brady to move from Pats one team career lined over to Vegas....

 

[Hawg73]

If this is how it goes down (extremely unlikely to me) then I would thank Tom for a fantastic career as a Patriot and move on to whatever happens here without shedding a tear. It is what it is.

I'd also be extremely curious to see what happens with the Raiders as clearly Chuckie did a fine job to get them respectable in 2019 after a solid draft last spring. Another good draft and Brady and they're probably in the hunt.

He'd be worth 30M to them even if a lot of that is generating attention and ticket sales in Vegas. Not sure at all he'd be worth that kind of big bank here.

 

[BostonTim]

If this is how it goes down (extremely unlikely to me) then I would thank Tom for a fantastic career as a Patriot and move on to whatever happens here without shedding a tear. It is what it is.

I'd also be extremely curious to see what happens with the Raiders as clearly Chuckie did a fine job to get them respectable in 2019 after a solid draft last spring. Another good draft and Brady and they're probably in the hunt.

He'd be worth 30M to them even if a lot of that is generating attention and ticket sales in Vegas. Not sure at all he'd be worth that kind of big bank here.

And Jerseys by the ton?

Cheers

 

[patswin]

Well, it all smells like tampering to me. Maybe the Pats get Brady and Chuckies draft picks..... nahhh.

 

[chevss454]

If this is how it goes down (extremely unlikely to me) then I would thank Tom for a fantastic career as a Patriot and move on to whatever happens here without shedding a tear. It is what it is.

He'd be worth 30M to them even if a lot of that is generating attention and ticket sales in Vegas. Not sure at all he'd be worth that kind of big bank here.

Selling tickets to fill up that big new stadium is a must. They have to have someone big to draw in the crowds. Brady would be perfect. The thought occurs to me that chuckie may get a huge chuckle after all these years when he signs the QB responsible for costing him a chance at the SB. Tuck rule grudges are long lasting. Revenge against the Pats would be oh so sweet to Gruden. How ironic.

Well, it all smells like tampering to me. Maybe the Pats get Brady and Chuckies draft picks..... nahhh.

Tampering for sure by whoever in teh Raiders leaked the story. Proving it though? It is, nevertheless, "more probably than not" tampering, even if only "generally aware". That bar has always been good enough for Roger.
I want some of the Raiders' draft picks, too.

 

[BostonTim]

Well, it all smells like tampering to me. Maybe the Pats get Brady and Chuckies draft picks..... nahhh.

Unpossible! Nobody would dare tamper since Roger ruined woody J's life.

 

[chevss454]

Tom E. Curran discusses the tampering question.


...tampering with Tom Brady is actually a victimless crime. It actually does the Patriots a favor.
If Brady and his agent Don Yee have a sense of what’s out there before they start negotiating with New England, then the need for Brady to go on a free-agent tour is eliminated.
If Team Brady has no clue, then Yee starts from scratch when the legal tampering period begins March 16 at noon.
There’s no way to vet each of the opportunities -- a source close to the situation figures there will be 10 teams expressing interest -- before free agency starts March 18 at 4 p.m.
Meanwhile, how are the Patriots supposed to convince free-agent tight ends or wideouts to come aboard if those players don’t know whether or not Tom Brady will be a Patriot? It’s easily argued that outside teams tampering with Brady is in the Patriots’ best interests.


Besides, if this really isn’t about the money -- and I’ve been told often enough that it isn’t -- it won’t matter if some crap-ass team is offering $70 million over two years. The persuasion in the Patriots pitch has to revolve around "who" and not "how much." The team that Brady plays for in 2020 won’t be the winner of a bidding war, it will be the one that provides the best ready-made landing spot to compete for a championship and have a shitload of fun while doing it.


All that said, it will still seem odd to me if the Patriots -- whether it be Kraft or Belichick -- don’t somehow have their sense of honor offended by all the predicted sneaking around. It’s always offended their sensibilities going back to January 1997 when it came to light that Bill Parcells spent the week leading up to Super Bowl 31 ringing up the Jets from his New Orleans hotel room instead of getting the Patriots ready to play the Packers.
The Krafts were apoplectic. Belichick, an assistant on that 1996 Patriots team, was pissed too.


"Yeah, I'd say it was a little bit of a distraction all the way around," Belichick told our Michael Holley for Holley’s book Patriot Reign. "I can tell you first hand, there was a lot of stuff going on prior to the game. I mean, him talking to other teams. He was trying to make up his mind about what he was going to do. Which, honestly, I felt [was] totally inappropriate. How many chances do you get to play for the Super Bowl? Tell them to get back to you in a couple of days. I'm not saying it was disrespectful to me, but it was in terms of the overall commitment to the team."
Every situation’s different, I guess. In this case, the tampering rules were made to be broken.


https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-bradys-case-are-nfl-tampering-rules-made-be-broken


Kraft should demand a high draft pick in return for tampering. :grrr:

 

[Patriots71]

Report: Raiders prepared to offer Tom Brady two-year, $60 million deal - Full Story

We have an actual dollar figure attached to the swirling rumors of various Tom Brady free agency landing spots.

The Brady-to-Las Vegas speculation has been out there since TB12 was spotted chatting up Raiders owner Marc Davis at the Connor McGregor-Cowboy Cerrone fight in Vegas last month. Now, veteran NFL reporter Larry Fitzgerald Sr. (father of the Arizona Cardinals wide receiver) reports that Davis' Raiders are prepared to offer TB12 a two-year, $60 million deal.

It's interesting to note that Larry Fitzgerald Jr., like Brady, is a long-time interviewee of Jim Gray on Westwood One's broadcasts of Monday and Thursday night NFL games.

Yeah....sure...Brady talked to another football guy at a sporting event...I'm sure Brady wants to move his family to vegas....People can just say anything anymore and do not have to prove it.

 

[king of kings]

Anything over 20 mill. Kraft should just let him walk. We do have major needs at WR & TE. He's will be a 43 year old. Who had issue with accuracy in tight coverage.

 

[O_P_T]

Selling tickets to fill up that big new stadium is a must. They have to have someone big to draw in the crowds. Brady would be perfect. The thought occurs to me that chuckie may get a huge chuckle after all these years when he signs the QB responsible for costing him a chance at the SB. Tuck rule grudges are long lasting. Revenge against the Pats would be oh so sweet to Gruden. How ironic.






Tampering for sure by whoever in teh Raiders leaked the story. Proving it though? It is, nevertheless, "more probably than not" tampering, even if only "generally aware". That bar has always been good enough for Roger.
I want some of the Raiders' draft picks, too.

I wonder how many seats the casinos will buy so they can comp them to the big rollers.

If they do, then there's a good chance there will be a boatload of empty seats every home game.

 

[Big/Sky/Fly]

Yeah....sure...Brady talked to another football guy at a sporting event...I'm sure Brady wants to move his family to vegas....People can just say anything anymore and do not have to prove it.

When will you be buying his new jersey? :shrug_n:

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Anything over 20 mill. Kraft should just let him walk. We do have major needs at WR & TE. He's will be a 43 year old. Who had issue with accuracy in tight coverage.

This

 

[chevss454]

Also, who's to say Brady would improve the Raiders over Carr? It sounds great from a romantic football standpoint, but Brady himself struggled in 2019 when also lacking receiving weapons, like Carr. That hints at an aging Brady no longer being able to turn receivers into superstars, and instead needed superstars already present on the roster or -- at minimum -- on the way, but that same logic could be used as an argument to retain Carr. Interestingly enough, and to that point, some futures simulations have the Raiders as better with Carr instead of Brady, per SportsLine. So while adding Brady might make them better, it also might not.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-is-the-biggest-domino-of-the-2020-qb-market/

 

[BostonTim]

When will you be buying his new jersey?

Next time I'm in new jersey.

Cheers, BostonTim

 

[O_P_T]

Also, who's to say Brady would improve the Raiders over Carr? It sounds great from a romantic football standpoint, but Brady himself struggled in 2019 when also lacking receiving weapons, like Carr. That hints at an aging Brady no longer being able to turn receivers into superstars, and instead needed superstars already present on the roster or -- at minimum -- on the way, but that same logic could be used as an argument to retain Carr. Interestingly enough, and to that point, some futures simulations have the Raiders as better with Carr instead of Brady, per SportsLine. So while adding Brady might make them better, it also might not.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-is-the-biggest-domino-of-the-2020-qb-market/

When he was “turning receivers into superstars”, he had a stable and good quality OL.

Pretty sure the OL situation played a role in his play in 2019.

 

[chevss454]

When he was “turning receivers into superstars”, he had a stable and good quality OL.

Pretty sure the OL situation played a role in his play in 2019.

It's way more than that. The 2019 Patriots' OL performed better than people think. Through 8 weeks of the season our OL was ranked top 2-3 in pass protection and ended up ranked 5th best in the league.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019

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Brady ranks 26th in on-target throw percentage, per Sports Info Solutions. His completion percentage over expectation is sitting at -0.4%, which also ranks 26th per Next Gen Stats. That means Brady is completing fewer passes than we should expect based on the separation of his receivers, the pressure he’s facing, the length of his attempts as well as other factors. You cannot put this all on his teammates. The offense, as a whole, is bad. The numbers say Brady is making it worse.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/12/tom-brady-patriots-offense-struggles

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His accuracy diminished considerably in 2019. Elbow? Maybe.


It’s easy to attribute Brady’s 2019 performance to the loss of five-time Pro Bowl tight end Rob Gronkowski (retired), the failed Josh Gordon and Antonio Brown experiments and an overall lack of quality receiving options. However, New England’s receivers are hauling in an average rate of catchable throws (77%), and passes to Edelman, Brady’s most targeted player, are producing 7.2 yards per attempt, the third-highest rate between them since they became teammates in 2009. Passes from Brady to Edelman are also producing 3.5 more points than expected per 100 snaps after taking into account the down, distance and field position of each throw, per data from TruMedia.
Brady was the second-most valuable passer of 2016 per ESPN’s Total Quarterback Rating only to fall to third in 2017, sixth in 2018 and 15th in 2019. His 56.4 QBR this year (2019) suggests his performance is good enough to fuel a team to a 9-7 record during a 16-game regular season. That would be the lowest QBR of his career, below the 62.1 he recorded in 2013. There are other warning signs. His passes are as shallow as they have been since at least 2006, the first year data is available, traveling just 7.2 yards past the line of scrimmage on average. That’s a yard less than the league average and two yards less than his output from 2017. A career-high 24 percent of his passes have been thrown at or behind the line of scrimmage, while just 10 percent of his passes are deep balls (20 or more yards), perhaps more signs Belichick and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels don’t have as much faith in Brady’s arm as they used to.

Brady’s completion rate also falls from 75% in a clean pocket to 35% (the worst among qualified quarterbacks in 2019, per Pro Football Focus) when facing pass pressure, and his passer rating drops from 105.8 to 48.5 in those same situations, one of the worst ratings among qualified quarterbacks. (For comparison, a quarterback will earn a 39.6 passer rating for an incomplete pass.) Brady produced passer ratings under pressure of 71.1 in 2018 and 95.8 in 2017.
https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2019/11/19/tom-brady-no-longer-elite-quarterback

 

[spacecrime]

Next time I'm in new jersey.

Cheers, BostonTim

You don't have to travel. I think Miss Ouri can send you a new jersey. Alaska.