***The Officially Official Training Camp 2013 Thread (Officially)***

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Eagles WR Arrelious Benn tore his ACL in practice today. Same injury he had with the Bucs as a rookie. And I liked him coming out of college.


Eagles Insider ‏<s>@</s>EaglesInsider <small class="time"> 3m </small> Benn tore the ACL in his left knee during a special teams drill.
 
Ben Volin ‏<s>@</s>BenVolin [/URL] <small class="time"> 2m </small>
Practice over. Pretty intense session, and long -- 2:30. Great day for Amendola, Sudfeld & Thompkins, rough day for Talib & Logan Ryan

At what point do we question the coaching that they DBs get?
 
sg14 said:
Ben Volin ‏<s>@</s>BenVolin ..... rough day for Talib & Logan Ryan

At what point do we question the coaching that they DBs get?
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Really? This again already?

a) Ryan is a rookie 3rd-rounder. You're expecting the coaches to have turned him into a complete NFL cornerback already?

b) Other, more detailed reports note that Talib (and Dennard) got beat a few times in off and zone coverages, but then stuffed Philly receivers when they switched to press-man.

c) This was a practice session. The whole point of this early camp exercise is to test the players by throwing different stuff at them and then, afterward, coach them out of their mistakes and failures to execute.
 
MaineMan said:
So, based on the practice reports I've been reading, Brady seems to be chucking it deep with a lot more frequency than in recent previous Camps.

Or, maybe he's running the short game just as much and the deep balls are all that's being written about.

Or, maybe it's just me.
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Maybe.
 
Eagles organization looks at these practices as their measuring stick.

Jeffrey Lurie walked up to Brady during early-practice warm-ups to chat with the quarterback. The Eagles' owner is a Boston native and grew up a Patriots fan. But it's not the New England teams of old he now admires. Lurie made it clear when he pursued two coaches with close ties to Patriots coach Bill Belichick this offseason that he wanted to emulate the success Belichick has had in New England. As much as that sounds like a no-brainer, guys like Pat Shurmur and Steve Spagnuolo still get hired as head coaches every year.
So Lurie went after Belichick's friend Chip Kelly and former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien, now at Penn State, and ended up with the former. The close alliance between Belichick and Kelly led to this week's scrimmages before their preseason game and a chance for the Eagles to gauge themselves against one of the best.
And predictably, they paled in comparison. There were times when Brady looked as if he was playing chess and Vick and Foles were swapping turns at checkers. That's not entirely fair to either Eagles quarterback as they continue to learn an entirely new offensive system.
But the Eagles got a glimpse of the gap, and it's significant.
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http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/08/06/3150948/commentary-patriots-are-measuring.html
 
sg14 said:
Ben Volin ‏<s>@</s>BenVolin [/URL] <small class="time"> 2m </small>
Practice over. Pretty intense session, and long -- 2:30. Great day for Amendola, Sudfeld & Thompkins, rough day for Talib & Logan Ryan

At what point do we question the coaching that they DBs get?
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Only DeSean Jackson made them look bad. Talib, Dennard, Ryan, and Cole all looked good otherwise. Brandon Jones didn't look half bad for a UDFA. Arrington still isn't trustworthy on the outside. Justin Green tries hard but he doesn't appear quick enough to cover slot guys.

Here's a video
 
This am's presser



  1. shalise manza young ‏<s>@</s>shalisemyoung <small class="time"> 2m </small>
    Belichick - we're a better team today than we were yesterday
  2. Mike Reiss ‏<s>@</s>MikeReiss <small class="time"> 2m </small>
    Photo: Bill Belichick addresses the media, starting by saying yesterday was a good day for the team. pic.twitter.com/Lb9s2H1bz6
  3. shalise manza young ‏<s>@</s>shalisemyoung <small class="time"> 4m </small> Belichick - thought yesterday was a really good day for us, got a lot out of it
  4. Derek Havens ‏<s>@</s>PatriotsHaven <small class="time"> 2m </small> <s>#</s>Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick at the podium right now. Pats and <s>#</s>Eagles players having another full-pads session shortly.
 
MaineMan said:
Really? This again already?

a) Ryan is a rookie 3rd-rounder. You're expecting the coaches to have turned him into a complete NFL cornerback already?

b) Other, more detailed reports note that Talib (and Dennard) got beat a few times in off and zone coverages, but then stuffed Philly receivers when they switched to press-man.

c) This was a practice session. The whole point of this early camp exercise is to test the players by throwing different stuff at them and then, afterward, coach them out of their mistakes and failures to execute.
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:clap::clap::jclap::jclap:
 
11:03 AM
TwitterBen Volin @BenVolin
Great ball skills by Kyle Arrington in 1 on 1 drills. Forced a fumble after a Demaris Johnson catch & knocked ball away from Cooper's grasp
 
Luke Hughes ‏<s>@</s>LukeFHughes <small class="time"> 3m </small> Better day for Ryan already. RT <s>@</s>Nick_Underhill: DBs in 1-on-1s. Talib had a pick. Arrington a PBU. Logan Ryan stood out with 3 good plays.


PatriotsXLVIII ‏<s>@</s>PatriotsXLVIII <small class="time"> 3m </small>
Back to earth. MT <s>@</s>jeffphowe: Brady was 11-of-16 in 1-on-1s. 3 incompletions were broken up, one missed Dobson and one was spiked.


Jeff Howe ‏<s>@</s>jeffphowe <small class="time"> 6m </small>
Brady was 11-of-16 in 1-on-1s. Three incompletions were broken up, one missed Dobson and one was spiked when Edelman couldn't get open.

Erik Scalavino ‏<s>@</s>E_Scal <small class="time"> 10s </small> <s>#</s>Patriots CB Kyle Arrington limping badly after being kicked accidentally in the shin by a falling <s>#</s>Eagles WR in 7-on-7.


Eric Galko ‏<s>@</s>OptimumScouting <small class="time"> 40s </small>
Dobson's routes still look noticeably unpolished. Obvious on last throw when he was off balance and slightly out of position vertically.


Michael Giardi ‏<s>@</s>MikeGiardi <small class="time"> 4m </small>
Dennard is going to see Riley Cooper in his sleep. Cooper with a one-handed TD catch over Dennard in 1-on-1s <s>#</s>PatriotsTalk


https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/365127704565133316
 
  1. Erik Scalavino ‏<s>@</s>E_Scal <small class="time"> 14m </small>
    <s>#</s>Patriots Aaron Dobson, back from yesterday's punishment, just made nice jump-ball TD catch in 1-on-1 drill vs <s>#</s>Eagles defender <s>@</s>MikeGiardi
  2. Michael Giardi ‏<s>@</s>MikeGiardi <small class="time"> 6m </small>
    <s>@</s>E_Scal dumb punishment. Nice play. Will confess that both Boyce and Thompkins have passed him in last 4 or 5 sessions


I had em ranked higher...:coffee:


Harrison, too.

Don't get me wrong. Dobson will be a very good weapon inside the 50 and especially in the RZ. But on 3rd and 8 from our 30, Dobson isn't where TB will be looking.
 
shalise manza young ‏<s>@</s>shalisemyoung <small class="time"> 1m </small> Zach Sudfeld with two impressive end zone catches in 7-on-7, one a one-handed, falling-down, stay-inbounds TD


PatriotsXLVIII ‏<s>@</s>PatriotsXLVIII <small class="time"> 7m </small>
I'm okay everybody. RT <s>@</s>Nick_Underhill: Sudfeld with nice one-hand TD. Goes up for TD on next play. Mallett QB on both. 7 v 7


Eric Galko ‏<s>@</s>OptimumScouting <small class="time"> 9m </small> Another two awesome catches by Zach Sudfeld in the back corner of the end zone and along back line. Really impressive hands/body control.
 
Michael Giardi ‏<s>@</s>MikeGiardi <small class="time"> 13m </small> Dobson to the sidelines. Favoring left calf. Working with team docs now. <s>#</s>PatriotsTalk



Luke Hughes ‏<s>@</s>LukeFHughes <small class="time"> 2m </small> Reports: Kyle Arrington Comes Up Hobbling in Patriots Practice, Playing Great Against Eagles' Receivers http://wp.me/p2AlCJ-TyC


Erik Scalavino ‏<s>@</s>E_Scal <small class="time"> 2m </small>
<s>#</s>Patriots CB Aqib Talib has been masterful vs <s>#</s>Eagles WR DeSean Jackson thus far, but just got beaten in 11-on-11. Wasn't happy with himself

https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/365129592471691265
 
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