Will Tom Brady Retire as a Patriot?

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Lol. Double standard much? Of course Dante carries Bill's water. They worked together forever. And Lombardi has been his mouth piece forever as well. His personal butt boy if there ever was one.

But again the main point is Bill could have responded to Alex himself but chose his closest and most trusted mouthpieces. I really don't have an issue with it as that is how things are done in today's media landscape. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of this board. Lol
Talk to me how Tom hasn't been sending out mouthpieces all week with daddy leading the way.
While Middy is out there claiming how TFB has been exemplary in keeping above the fray.

Still a man (oops) hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest.

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Talk to me how Tom hasn't been sending out mouthpieces all week with daddy leading the way.
While Middy is out there claiming how TFB has been exemplary in keeping above the fray.

Still a man (oops) hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest.

The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel
Bill has been sending out his mouthpieces too.

This week should be interesting.
 

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In fairness to Tom, this is a playful but definite plea to his dad to please shut the hell up!

I think this is a response to Bills positive words about Tom yesterday with both of them more or less saying to the media, there is nothing to see here, move on......

TAMPA, Fla. -- Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady acknowledged Monday that he will feel "different kinds of emotions" when he returns to Gillette Stadium this weekend for the first time since leaving New England, where he said he enjoyed "some of the greatest experiences of my life."

Brady's Bucs visit the Patriots, with whom he spent 20 seasons and won six Super Bowls, on Sunday (8:20 p.m. ET, NBC).

"I know that locker room, I know that home locker room, I know that home tunnel, I know which way the wind blows, I know everything about that [place]," Brady told Jim Gray on their "Let's Go!" podcast on SiriusXM. "I know the way it smells. I know what a night game's like, I know what the fans are gonna sound like. So in some ways, that'll be really unique. I've never had that experience going to, you know -- it'll be a first time for me being on the other sideline.

"I'm not going to necessarily reminisce. I don't think this is the moment for that. I'll have plenty opportunities to reminisce about my football career -- none of it, none of which I really care to do right now because I'm so much in the moment. I'm not going to be thinking about 20 years of history. I'm going to be thinking about one night of football, a Sunday night game coming off a really tough loss."

The Bucs were beaten by the Los Angeles Rams 34-24 on Sunday. It was their first defeat since Nov. 29, 2020, snapping a 10-game winning streak.

Meanwhile, the Patriots, behind rookie QB Mac Jones, are coming off a 28-13 home loss to the New Orleans Saints.

Brady said he understands if fans who have supported him for 20 years won't be this week, and he said he's OK with it. He expects both teams to be "fighting and clawing for a win" come Sunday.

"I wouldn't expect that -- a homecoming," said Brady, who added that he will have a number of family members and friends in attendance -- and they've been asking for tickets for six months. "I mean, I think they're there to root for their team, and their team is the Patriots. I think they're gonna cheer for their team as I would expect them to, and I think if they know anything about me, they're gonna know that I'm going out there to try to win the football game, so I think they'll respect that about me.

"One thing I learned from the Patriots -- [Bill] Belichick would say, 'Listen, if you love football, then, 8:30 on Sunday night at Gillette Stadium is the place to be.'"

Much has been made about the relationship, and possible friction, between Brady and Belichick. Just last week, Brady's longtime trainer, Alex Guerrero, told the Boston Herald that he didn't believe Belichick's treatment of Brady evolved with time, and that the famed coach continued to treat the star QB like he was 20 years old instead of a 40-year-old man.

Brady, though, called Belichick a "great mentor" in the podcast with Gray.

"Well I have 20 years -- I have 20 years of being there and obviously he's a great mentor for me," Brady said of Belichick. "And yes I think there's definitely great lessons I've learned from him. He's a great football coach, and he does a great job for his team. And, you know any player, I think they would just hope that their coaches give them everything they got. I'm sure every great coach wants every player to give them everything they got. And I think that's what makes a great relationship."

Brady also shared his feelings about his father, Tom Brady Sr., telling NBC Sports Boston last week that he personally felt "vindicated" by his son winning a Super Bowl last season with the Bucs and without Belichick.

"I've actually prepared a statement that I wanted to say, and it's really all that I have to say on the subject," Brady said jokingly. "Comments made by Thomas Edward Brady, a 77-year-old insurance company CEO who should know better at this point in his life, doesn't necessarily reflect the views or positions held by his son, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr., so furthermore should Tom Sr. continue to speak out on behalf of his son without the express written consent, Tom Jr. reserves the right to eventually put him in a home against his will. That's all I have to say."
 

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In fairness to Tom, this is a playful but definite plea to his dad to please shut the hell up!

I think this is a response to Bills positive words about Tom yesterday with both of them more or less saying to the media, there is nothing to see here, move on......
Very encouraging. I am glad both of them set the tone to be positive this week. It is clear Tom hated what his dad said and that is important too.

It should be a home coming of sorts for Tom where the fans get to say thank you before the game. But like he said, once the game begins he is the enemy. I am sure that will be strange for him. Gronk too.

Thanks for posting the interview.
 

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The Boston media clearly want a nice war of words to wallow in. It's supposed to be a jokey piece, but probably not too jokey...

The media won't get their way. Both Tom and Bill have now drawn a line in the sand of any perceived negative comments. There will be no more talk from them I think. No wonder the media hates them both :rofl:

 
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Well, well, well ...

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FOXBORO, Mass. — Tom Brady and Robert Kraft might be on the same page.

Hours before the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earned a 19-17 win over the Patriots, New England owner Robert Kraft admitted he hopes Brady eventually retires as a member of the franchise that drafted him in 2000. Kraft did not specify whether he imagined a one-day contract for Brady or something else.

Brady beat around the bush a bit during his postgame press conference, but the 44-year-old definitely left the door open for an eventual Patriots reunion. His first apparent mention of it came during a response to a question about how special it was to win in Gillette Stadium as a visitor.

“It’s been a great stadium for me for a long time,” Brady said. “I don’t know what the future holds. Obviously could be an opportunity to come back here. We’ll see. I feel like I’ll always be a part of this community. I’ll be up here quite a bit when it’s all said and done. When I retire I’m sure there will be a lot of time for — you know, I have a lot of friends up here and it’s a great place.
Brady then was asked specifically about the possibility of signing a one-day contract. After cracking a joke, he offered the following:
“(Kraft) didn’t offer me that,” a laughing Brady said. “… I still got some time left with the Bucs, and like I said, really enjoying that. We got a lot to accomplish this year.”

Asked one more time about the possibility of retiring as a Patriot, a coy Brady said: “I’m not sure.”
 

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Pretty straightforward question: When Tom Brady makes the decision to retire from the NFL, will he formally rejoin the Patriots as part of the retirement process?

2-3+ years ago, I would've thought such a question is absurd, but in light of recent events, I wouldn't be shocked to see Brady make the decision to retire as a Buccaneer (or whichever team he's on at that point).

For a little context on what spurred this specific question: According to Curran's recent article, Tom Brady Sr. has donated/given-away nearly all of his Patriots' memorabilia; that, along with Sr's generally vindictive tone re: the Patriots, which I think is a least a partial proxy for Jr's thoughts ... I began to wonder if the younger Brady might not ultimately retire a Patriot.

I wonder if he made a gentleman's agreement with Kraft after he left for Tampa Bay, and if that commitment may result in him rejoining the Patriots before formally retiring. At any rate, I hope the situation cools-off and that Brady remains close with the Patriots organization and Belichick following his retirement. We shall see.

Edit - here's the link: 'Damn Right': Tom Brady's Father Says QB Feels Vindicated By Post-Patriots Success





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"the team embraced Tommy for a while"

As an aside, it stings to see all these barbs being thrown. Obviously I still wish Brady was a Patriot, but to see the bitter, vindictive tone over a year removed from the situation, is ... really unfortunate. Wish Belichick had made more of an effort to keep Brady, and wish Brady and co. were more considerate and mindful of what the Patriots did for him, and how Brady's experience in New England enabled him to find success in Tampa Bay.
Yes, 100%. He will sign a one day contract and retire as a Patriot for sure. If he doesn't, the 20 years he was here would be a slap to the face of the Krafts and the fans. We all love Tom and what he did for the Patriots. But right now, he is no longer a Patriot, he will be again one day, that I am sure of.
 

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So, our Ex, after telling everybody that would listen that she was miserable when she was still with us and needed to find herself again, went out with her annoying friends, had a few too many glasses of Pinot Grigio and admitted that she still has some feelings for us.

Un-huh.

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So, our Ex, after telling everybody that would listen that she was miserable when she was still with us and needed to find herself again, went out with her annoying friends, had a few too many glasses of Pinot Grigio and admitted that she still has some feelings for us.

Un-huh.

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It is a shame that you are this bitter after a night when as fans we got a lot of closure on this ridiculous break up from Kraft, Brady and Bill. It seems it was never as bad as it seemed and the media was overblowing things. Who would have thought?
 

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It is a shame that you are this bitter after a night when as fans we got a lot of closure on this ridiculous break up from Kraft, Brady and Bill. It seems it was never as bad as it seemed and the media was overblowing things. Who would have thought?

Well, clearly I'm a bitter, old codger who just wants those damn kids off my lawn. Any idiot can see that.

So "we" got CLOSURE, did we? Awwwwww...... That's so sweet!!!! I'm getting all misty-eyed. My pea-sized heart just grew many sizes bigger. In fact, I just went
looking for a comfy, white hoodie with "BRADY" on the front so I can help Tommy build his brand.

So, you're now saying that Bill wasn't the insecure Tyrant who was poisoning noble Prince Tommy's soup all along? What a SHOCKER!!!!!!

That changed quick, but I've been a bit busy watching us build the next dynasty to pay much attention to the Hallmark Channel's version of Heartbreak in Foxboro.

I moved on a long time ago, but I'm guessing your definition of "a lot of closure" means business as usual. Maybe a lot of Patriots fans did give up the ghost last
night, but I don't think either one of those things really apply to you.

BTW, "it seems it was never as bad as it seemed" could stand to be a tad more specific. If that was some sort of lame attempt at extending an olive branch to the many
members of this forum that you have rubbed the wrong way over this whole topic, then you short-armed it.
 

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Well, clearly I'm a bitter, old codger who just wants those damn kids off my lawn. Any idiot can see that.

So "we" got CLOSURE, did we? Awwwwww...... That's so sweet!!!! I'm getting all misty-eyed. My pea-sized heart just grew many sizes bigger. In fact, I just went
looking for a comfy, white hoodie with "BRADY" on the front so I can help Tommy build his brand.

So, you're now saying that Bill wasn't the insecure Tyrant who was poisoning noble Prince Tommy's soup all along? What a SHOCKER!!!!!!

That changed quick, but I've been a bit busy watching us build the next dynasty to pay much attention to the Hallmark Channel's version of Heartbreak in Foxboro.

I moved on a long time ago, but I'm guessing your definition of "a lot of closure" means business as usual. Maybe a lot of Patriots fans did give up the ghost last
night, but I don't think either one of those things really apply to you.

BTW, "it seems it was never as bad as it seemed" could stand to be a tad more specific. If that was some sort of lame attempt at extending an olive branch to the many
members of this forum that you have rubbed the wrong way over this whole topic, then you short-armed it.
I admit that last night was really hard for me. I hated watching Brady play us at Gillette. I was so happy to see our defense play that way yet I was happy when Brady made plays. I was watching intently after the game to see Brady and Bill's interaction. I saw the quick hug by Bill and it looked frosty to me so I kind of just accepted that it was good of Bill to come over to him after such a heart breaking last second loss and I left it at that.

To find out after the game that Bill went to the Tampa locker room to meet with Brady privately for over 20 minutes. To me, that was something significant. I don't know if Bill has ever done that with anyone after any game. Brady took the podium late after the game because of the meeting with Bill and he looked really happy and at peace. I do think that was a great gesture by Bill whose public persona makes it easy to dislike him. Certainly the Wickersham book did him no favors but as a Pats fan who has loved watching this dynasty for 20 years and specifically watching Brady and Bill together, I took a lot of solace in that meeting.

I am sorry if you didn't or if you think it was some ruse. But I did feel closure as Roberto said on the game thread. I think a lot of fans did.

You know, a lot of folks were upset about the fans who were wearing the split Brady/Bucs jersey and at first I thought it was pretty silly but as I looked at the shirts more closely, I thought they perfectly represented how many fans feel about Brady. We loved him as our QB and still love him as a Buc but there is a split there as the shirt so perfectly illustrates. He is not our QB anymore but yet we can't not root for the guy.

I realize you feel different because you hate the guy for the way things ended and his attitude in 2019. I get it. But for so many of us, we loved watching him play and what he did for us for 20 years despite the crappy ending. Last night felt like a way to let it all go. Tom won but our team looked really good. We have our future QB. I felt a lot better waking up today then I did all week.
 
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I don't understand all the hate towards TB from some of our members here, everyone knows that he came to Gillette to win this game, he wouldn't be TFB if he didn't. His play last night was reminiscent of a lot of his play in 2019 even though he has much better receivers to throw to now than he did back then. If not for the Bucs rushing defense I believe the Pats would have won last nights game quite easily.

Anyways, I was super impressed with Mac Jones play last night, while the pocket was collapsing around him he played with a lot of poise and focus and never got rattled, that's damned impressive for a rookie QB, I think the Pats are on their way back to becoming an elite team once again.
 

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Well, clearly I'm a bitter, old codger who just wants those damn kids off my lawn. Any idiot can see that.

So "we" got CLOSURE, did we? Awwwwww...... That's so sweet!!!! I'm getting all misty-eyed. My pea-sized heart just grew many sizes bigger. In fact, I just went
looking for a comfy, white hoodie with "BRADY" on the front so I can help Tommy build his brand.

So, you're now saying that Bill wasn't the insecure Tyrant who was poisoning noble Prince Tommy's soup all along? What a SHOCKER!!!!!!

That changed quick, but I've been a bit busy watching us build the next dynasty to pay much attention to the Hallmark Channel's version of Heartbreak in Foxboro.

I moved on a long time ago, but I'm guessing your definition of "a lot of closure" means business as usual. Maybe a lot of Patriots fans did give up the ghost last
night, but I don't think either one of those things really apply to you.

BTW, "it seems it was never as bad as it seemed" could stand to be a tad more specific. If that was some sort of lame attempt at extending an olive branch to the many
members of this forum that you have rubbed the wrong way over this whole topic, then you short-armed it.
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There must have quite a few season ticket holders that sold or gave away their tickets.
How else can you explain those idiots showing up with half Patriots and half Bucs #12 shirts. Or, the moron wearing a full Goat costume.
I would hate to think those people were real Patriots fans.
 

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There must have quite a few season ticket holders that sold or gave away their tickets.
How else can you explain those idiots showing up with half Patriots and half Bucs #12 shirts. Or, the moron wearing a full Goat costume.
I would hate to think those people were real Patriots fans.

People are interesting.

Many are easy marks for the media, who will try to convince you that there are nazis behind every woodpile in order to sell you insurance.

I take a more cynical view and try to decide what is sizzle and what is steak. To ME, Bill Belichick is honest, but within the confines of his football code,
which means you tell people exactly what you think, but in private. He has the intellectual ability to easily charm the media and improve his Q rating,
but he chooses not to, except on his terms.

Some think that is a flaw, but I think it's fantastic. Like he's the last guy in America who just doesn't care what people think about him, except the
inner circle and that is a closed society whose members are often fiercely loyal to him, but adhere to his code almost as strictly as he does.

I saw the guy in the goat costume and he has chosen to align himself (obviously) with team Brady and probably demonizes Bill for kicking the real GOAT
to the curb when all he did was agree to trade his closest competitor and offer a 42 year-old QB 50 million dollars (yes, incentivized) to finish his career
here or at least see if he could keep it going. The whole thing with Tom was unprecedented, because NOBODY at his age has even been close to his level
and everybody seems to act like, of course, Bill should have known it would play out this way.

We can all argue the particulars back and forth forever, but I'm really hoping that all the worst of the drama starts to slowly fade away after last night.

I thought it was a pretty decent result all things considered, except for the doink at the end and the wrong team won. It was a good ending, if that's what it was.
 
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There must have quite a few season ticket holders that sold or gave away their tickets.
How else can you explain those idiots showing up with half Patriots and half Bucs #12 shirts. Or, the moron wearing a full Goat costume.
I would hate to think those people were real Patriots fans.
I thought the fans overall were great. Felt like a playoff atmosphere. They booed Brady on his first possession as they should and also cheered the yardage record as they should. Overall IMO it was a great night of football all around.
 
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