Looking at the Patriots - 2018

I thought this was a typo, like missing the decimal point. The TDs/INT number comes from the previous two columns, TD% divided by INT%. He is very careful with the ball.

thats what I thought too. lol. It seems he played them early on, his play slipped the last 5 games or so. He was awful vs the cowboys.
 
Kliff Kingsbury Wants to Draft Kyler Murray. And I've Got Just the Place for Josh Rosen.

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Kliff Kingsbury with some high praise for OU QB Kyler Murray:

"Kyler is a freak.....I would take him with the first pick of the draft if I could."

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Kliff Kingsbury last October, on Kyler Murray – “Kyler, I mean, he’s a freak, man. Kyler is a freak. I’ve followed him since he was a sophomore in high school. Just think the world of him and what he can do on a football field. I’ve never seen one better in high school and he’s starting to show it now at the college level. I don’t have enough good things to say about him. He’s phenomenal. I’ve never seen him have a poor outing. Not one, which at quarterback is impossible to do but he’s done it. I’d take him with the first pick of the draft if I could.”

OK, so now Kliff Kingsbury has the first pick. He also has last year’s Cardinals 1st rounder, Josh Rosen. Which begs the obvious question, can a team use top 10 picks on two franchise quarterbacks in back to back drafts? Let’s turn to the World’s Foremost Authority.

“The one thing about the NFL is that quarterbacks are currency,” Adam Schefter said on Get Up this morning. “And I can tell you this: Last year, when the Cleveland Browns had the first and fourth overall picks, at one point in time — and I know people will be skeptical of this — they considered taking quarterbacks at one and four, and then auctioning off one of the quarterbacks that they liked less.

“So if you’re the Arizona Cardinals and you like Kyler Murray that much — also, imagine him going No. 1 overall — but maybe there’s a scenario where you get him and you auction off Josh Rosen. If that’s what the new quarterback [Note: Schefty must’ve meant “coach”] likes, if that’s what he wants, why would you not acquiesce to that when you could get a king’s ransom for Josh Rosen, who some teams really like. Again, we’re getting things started here really early, and really putting things out there, but it’s not implausible that that scenario could unfold.”

Interesting. It’s almost like adding Josh Rosen to this year’s quarterback draft class, in a way. And begs the question, who might be interested in him? Is there a team out there that might be in the market for a highly regarded prospect coming off a tough rookie season in which his line gave up the sixth most Sacks, the sixth highest Sacks Percentage, and the Expected Points Scored of by his passing offense was a league worst 106.25 (Another note: I don’t really know what that means, either. But it is bad.) What kind of a team might be in the market for a young, physically gifted quarterback with the physical tools and make up to have been worth the 10th overall pick a year ago? And who could still stand a little time as a backup in order to develop under great coaching?

Let’s think about it …


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Throwing this out there to chew on folks.....Cardinals trade Rosen to the Patriots...Pats get a 1st rd QB on the cheap... Cards draft Kyler Murray #1 & get a decent draft pick in return...#Pats get their future “Tom Brady”....#VeryPatriotish

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Huh.

Interesting

I mean, it’s connecting a few dots. But I don’t think there’s so many dots or that they’re so messed up that it’s not at least plausible. The Patriots were rumored to be looking to move up in the 1st round last year, mainly for Baker Mayfield, but there was some discussion about Rosen. Belichick has a history of making deals with executives and coaches he’s familiar with, and he gave Kingsbury his start in pro football. It’s reasonable to assume Arizona would prefer to trade their starting quarterback to the other conference. The biggest question mark about him was whether he had the toughness and desire to stand up to a beating, especially given he had concussions at UCLA. And given how he stood up behind the Cardinals terrible O-line, I’d say that’s asked and answered. Plus you’ve got the likelihood of two very willing partners, which ultimately is everything you need to make this a reality. And just to say what doesn’t need to be said, Tom Brady is the same age as the Star Wars franchise.

The compensation wouldn’t be easy, since the Patriots (God willing) won’t be drafting until No. 32. But no GM in history has ever moved around a draft board like theirs does. And he’s always got a stack of 2nds and 3rds like a 90s kid collecting Pogs. This is less a prediction the Pats will actually wind up with The Rosen One than it is just alerting everyone to keep an eye on this situation. Stranger things have happened. But few have ever been this wild.

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Kliff Kingsbury Wants to Draft Kyler Murray. And I've Got Just the Place for Josh Rosen.

Jerry Thornton
1/10/2019 12:01 PM
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Eric Kelly
@EricKellyTV
Kliff Kingsbury with some high praise for OU QB Kyler Murray:

"Kyler is a freak.....I would take him with the first pick of the draft if I could."

142
6:07 PM - Oct 28, 2018


Kliff Kingsbury last October, on Kyler Murray – “Kyler, I mean, he’s a freak, man. Kyler is a freak. I’ve followed him since he was a sophomore in high school. Just think the world of him and what he can do on a football field. I’ve never seen one better in high school and he’s starting to show it now at the college level. I don’t have enough good things to say about him. He’s phenomenal. I’ve never seen him have a poor outing. Not one, which at quarterback is impossible to do but he’s done it. I’d take him with the first pick of the draft if I could.”

OK, so now Kliff Kingsbury has the first pick. He also has last year’s Cardinals 1st rounder, Josh Rosen. Which begs the obvious question, can a team use top 10 picks on two franchise quarterbacks in back to back drafts? Let’s turn to the World’s Foremost Authority.

“The one thing about the NFL is that quarterbacks are currency,” Adam Schefter said on Get Up this morning. “And I can tell you this: Last year, when the Cleveland Browns had the first and fourth overall picks, at one point in time — and I know people will be skeptical of this — they considered taking quarterbacks at one and four, and then auctioning off one of the quarterbacks that they liked less.

“So if you’re the Arizona Cardinals and you like Kyler Murray that much — also, imagine him going No. 1 overall — but maybe there’s a scenario where you get him and you auction off Josh Rosen. If that’s what the new quarterback [Note: Schefty must’ve meant “coach”] likes, if that’s what he wants, why would you not acquiesce to that when you could get a king’s ransom for Josh Rosen, who some teams really like. Again, we’re getting things started here really early, and really putting things out there, but it’s not implausible that that scenario could unfold.”

Interesting. It’s almost like adding Josh Rosen to this year’s quarterback draft class, in a way. And begs the question, who might be interested in him? Is there a team out there that might be in the market for a highly regarded prospect coming off a tough rookie season in which his line gave up the sixth most Sacks, the sixth highest Sacks Percentage, and the Expected Points Scored of by his passing offense was a league worst 106.25 (Another note: I don’t really know what that means, either. But it is bad.) What kind of a team might be in the market for a young, physically gifted quarterback with the physical tools and make up to have been worth the 10th overall pick a year ago? And who could still stand a little time as a backup in order to develop under great coaching?

Let’s think about it …


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Throwing this out there to chew on folks.....Cardinals trade Rosen to the Patriots...Pats get a 1st rd QB on the cheap... Cards draft Kyler Murray #1 & get a decent draft pick in return...#Pats get their future “Tom Brady”....#VeryPatriotish

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Huh.

Interesting

I mean, it’s connecting a few dots. But I don’t think there’s so many dots or that they’re so messed up that it’s not at least plausible. The Patriots were rumored to be looking to move up in the 1st round last year, mainly for Baker Mayfield, but there was some discussion about Rosen. Belichick has a history of making deals with executives and coaches he’s familiar with, and he gave Kingsbury his start in pro football. It’s reasonable to assume Arizona would prefer to trade their starting quarterback to the other conference. The biggest question mark about him was whether he had the toughness and desire to stand up to a beating, especially given he had concussions at UCLA. And given how he stood up behind the Cardinals terrible O-line, I’d say that’s asked and answered. Plus you’ve got the likelihood of two very willing partners, which ultimately is everything you need to make this a reality. And just to say what doesn’t need to be said, Tom Brady is the same age as the Star Wars franchise.

The compensation wouldn’t be easy, since the Patriots (God willing) won’t be drafting until No. 32. But no GM in history has ever moved around a draft board like theirs does. And he’s always got a stack of 2nds and 3rds like a 90s kid collecting Pogs. This is less a prediction the Pats will actually wind up with The Rosen One than it is just alerting everyone to keep an eye on this situation. Stranger things have happened. But few have ever been this wild.

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KK isn't the GM...:coffee:

Rosen might be a decent qb however...for the right deal.
 
KK isn't the GM...:coffee:

Rosen might be a decent qb however...for the right deal.


Does anyone honestly think Steve Keim is going to hire a losing college head coach and allow that coach to trade Rosen, the 1st round QB Keim himself scouted and drafted the year prior? :tmack:



If Kyler Murray is the target for the 1st pick, the smarter play is to keep Rosen (cheap rookie deal) and let them compete to see who wins. That's a great strategy to double your chances if you can afford it; AZ isn't going anywhere next year so they can definitely afford it.
 
Does anyone honestly think Steve Keim is going to hire a losing college head coach and allow that coach to trade Rosen, the 1st round QB Keim himself scouted and drafted the year prior? :tmack:



If Kyler Murray is the target for the 1st pick, the smarter play is to keep Rosen (cheap rookie deal) and let them compete to see who wins. That's a great strategy to double your chances if you can afford it; AZ isn't going anywhere next year so they can definitely afford it.

The Bidwell family still owns that team. You don't think it's possible?
 
Does anyone honestly think Steve Keim is going to hire a losing college head coach and allow that coach to trade Rosen, the 1st round QB Keim himself scouted and drafted the year prior? :tmack:



If Kyler Murray is the target for the 1st pick, the smarter play is to keep Rosen (cheap rookie deal) and let them compete to see who wins. That's a great strategy to double your chances if you can afford it; AZ isn't going anywhere next year so they can definitely afford it.
the competition worked out so well for Washington, they have neither RGIII nor Cousins!!
 
the competition worked out so well for Washington, they have neither RGIII nor Cousins!!


Yes, exactly. The more chances you have the better your chances of success! No guarantees, however. :coffee:
 
Yep, the traditional, look far ahead to next season..

The bones of the schedule is out. We have the AFC South and NFC North to play. GB and the Vikes coming here.

Away games look good, we go to Pitt again....

Have to say, nothing in the schedule would give you huge concern....

The schedule is:

HOME
Buffalo Bills (AFC East)
Miami Dolphins (AFC East)
New York Jets (AFC East)
Green Bay Packers (NFC North)
Minnesota Vikings (NFC North)
Houston Texans (AFC South)
Indianapolis Colts (AFC South)
K.C. Chiefs (AFC West champ)

AWAY

Buffalo Bills (AFC East)
Miami Dolphins (AFC East)
New York Jets (AFC East)
Chicago Bears (NFC North)
Detroit Lions (NFC North)
Jacksonville Jaguars (AFC South)
Tennessee Titans (AFC South)
Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC North champ)

Seems like yesterday, Roberto, that you op'd this far ahead look into the soon to be unique and uncertain 2018 season. Tomorrow we are back at the dance. Tempus fugit.


Cheers, :toast: BostonTim
 
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In its 50th game, the Hot Jacket picked up its record 38th win.
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Josh Rosen the person isn't even close to being Patriots material. Yes, he can really throw a pretty ball and that is about it.

Skip this BS report. Not going to happen.
 
This probably not your first choice, but the player I was most surprised that he did well as a Pat last was,,,

Cordarrel Patterson.

Didn't think he would even make the team last fall.
 
This probably not your first choice, but the player I was most surprised that he did well as a Pat last was,,,

Cordarrel Patterson.

Didn't think he would even make the team last fall.

I could see him coming back unless the market dictates too high a cost. He's Bill's type of player. Great kick returner, versatile and willing to do anything asked of him.
 
Lol hey I love Patterson, but versatile? He can run a sweep and return. I hope he’s back though. Even with his limitations he’s a good wrinkle to the offense.
 
Patterson was exciting for me every time he touched the ball. Maybe with another year under his belt...

I hope he's back, too.
 
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