Looking at the Patriots - 2021

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Mike Reiss talks about the Harry situation, the Gilmore holdout, our QBs coming to camp a week early and John Hannah talking about Ernie Adams and his toughest opponents.

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Patriots' precedent could be key factor in a Stephon Gilmore resolution

Perhaps adding easily-earned incentives to the cornerback's contract would fall in line with New England's approach of finding common ground?
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“10. Did You Know: The Patriots have finished in the top 10 for fewest points allowed in each of the past nine seasons, and if they accomplish the feat in 2021, they will match the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1996-2005) as the last team to do so in 10 straight seasons. The Patriots ranked seventh last season.”

But no, it was all Brady.


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PatsFan09 said:
“10. Did You Know: The Patriots have finished in the top 10 for fewest points allowed in each of the past nine seasons, and if they accomplish the feat in 2021, they will match the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1996-2005) as the last team to do so in 10 straight seasons. The Patriots ranked seventh last season.”

But no, it was all Brady.


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I'm gonna say this to you as I've said it to others here: STOP! You can't continue to f### up the rhetoric from Toni Mazz and her lackeys! The truth has no place in their world. You appear as mean as Bill B, and everyone, including Cassius Marsh and Lane Johnson, knows that playing for Bill SUCKS! I don't care what guys like Deion Branch, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison and Julian Edelman say. WTF do they know compared to Toni Mazz, her little lackeys, Marsh and Johnson?
 
Phil Elliott said:
I'm gonna say this to you as I've said it to others here: STOP! You can't continue to f### up the rhetoric from Toni Mazz and her lackeys! The truth has no place in their world. You appear as mean as Bill B, and everyone, including Cassius Marsh and Lane Johnson, knows that playing for Bill SUCKS! I don't care what guys like Deion Branch, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison and Julian Edelman say. WTF do they know compared to Toni Mazz, her little lackeys, Marsh and Johnson?
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How had did you have to bite down on your tongue in order to post this?:rolleyes:
 
Phil Elliott said:
I'm gonna say this to you as I've said it to others here: STOP! You can't continue to f### up the rhetoric from Toni Mazz and her lackeys! The truth has no place in their world. You appear as mean as Bill B, and everyone, including Cassius Marsh and Lane Johnson, knows that playing for Bill SUCKS! I don't care what guys like Deion Branch, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison and Julian Edelman say. WTF do they know compared to Toni Mazz, her little lackeys, Marsh and Johnson?
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I just put them all ignore. I just couldn't their SSDD anymore . Somehow Giving credit to BB or anyone else. Took away from his greatness.
 
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king of kings said:
I just put them all ignore. I just couldn't their SSDD anymore . Somehow Giving credit to BB or anyone else. Took away from his greatness.
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It's occurred to me, but I guess I'm just too stubborn and hornery. Of course, I've on!y been posting here for a short while compared to many. I may get there, likely sooner rather than later..
 
king of kings said:
I just put them all ignore. I just couldn't their SSDD anymore . Somehow Giving credit to BB or anyone else. Took away from his greatness.
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Yeah, me as well. It's funny to see comments when I don't see anything, even in quotes, from Mazz. I took her off ignore for a couple days but there's only so much nonsense I can take. But is Midgar/P71/I50 still posting? I never see comments referring to him like with RivS and Mazz.
 
spacecrime said:
Yeah, me as well. It's funny to see comments when I don't see anything, even in quotes, from Mazz. I took her off ignore for a couple days but there's only so much nonsense I can take. But is Midgar/P71/I50 still posting? I never see comments referring to him like with RivS and Mazz.
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all i've seen lately is he lurks, and posts likes of hagiographical tb comments in the tb thread.
 
Mazz22 said:
This isn't about Brady winning the Super Bowl in year one with a new team. That is nothing more than simplistic reason to take the focus off the fact that in a three year span, Bill Belichick made one of the most questionable decisions in Super Bowl history which in hindsight probably cost the team the only 3-peat ever, caused the greatest tight end ever to retire rather than play for him, and failed to keep the greatest quarterback of all-time satisfied, choosing instead to double down and triple down on The Patriot Way and "next man up." Of course next man up was broken Cam Newton for not only one dumpster fire season but for an encore as well.

And when fans ask for accountability, or at the very least, recognition that Bill has screwed up royally, they're just marginalized and their "true Patriots fandom" is called into question.

I don't really give a crap if people think I'm a real fan or not. I've been a Belichick fan boy almost as much as a Brady fan boy for many years, but I also recognize that a once great philosophy has become a liability.
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Just in case nobody else replied to the bit in bold. That is complete and utter rubbish Mazz. Gronk was badly injured after the SB win against the Rams. Peter King recounted in his piece when he interviewed Gronk in the locker room straight after the win. He said Gronk's leg had an obscene looking lump on it where he had been hit. He could barely walk, barely get his pants off. And he had clearly had it. King said in the piece he was sure to retire. All the injuries, the back, the arm etc had taken their toll and he called it a day. It was nothing to do with BB. Gronk was always the hardest-working member of the team according to BB, he was constantly training, in the gym etc. He himself said he wasn't happy if he couldn't train and work out. So he fit the Patriots like a glove and Bill never had any issue with him whatsoever as was said in the NFL100 segments when they discussed Gronk.

Brady left for sunny Florida, one final leg of his career, get well paid and have a bit of "fun" so he took it.
 
spacecrime said:
First, BB doesn't walk on water. But he is one of the best NFL coaches ever. Bitch about his missed picks all you want, but no one other than Ozzie Newsome picked as good. Polian was good as well and he also pcked late every year. Where BB excelled is teaching and developing players, especially UDFA, unheralded FAs, and later round draft picks. After 20 years of picking in the 28-32 range, he build some tremendous teams and dominating defenses.

Second, I've been to Patsfans and still go there occasionally, and I call bullshit on the place being full of anti-BB posters. Just as you confuse disapproval with hate, you apparently don't kow the difference between being angry at something and giving up on someone. For diehard Pats fans like me, the team is almost like an extended family, not quite but almost. You don't like everything everyone does and when one family member doesn't do what you think they should you can get REALLY angry, but they are still family.

Look at it this way, if your kids did something you strongly disapprove of, do you hate them? Do you disown them or just complain for a while but realize they are basically
good kids at heart?

It still boils down to Pats fans appreciate what Brady did and believe that he and Brady performed magic together. You have to diss BB in order to make Brady look like it was all him, all by himself, and he did it in spite of BB.

The question is, why do you need to do this?
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That's the crux of the matter. That's what it boils down to in essence.

If, god forbid, BB won a SB in the next few years, watch the hysterical denigration of it with all kinds of reasons given as to why it will have been a fluke, never as good as the wins when Tom was QB, how Bill was "lucky" etc.

The narrative has been set and facts are now redundant. The reason the Patriots were so successful was solely down to Tom Brady. The Culture, the Patriot Way, all of it. Nothing can be allowed to challenge that narrative.
 
Do your job & Patriots way are their TEAM philosophy. Meaning no one more important then the team. Nope it's was BB royally F*cked up . He didn't keep their Hero in New England. So F him I want him to Fail :coffee:
 
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king of kings said:
Do your job & Patriots way are their TEAM philosophy. Meaning no one more important then the team. Nope it's was BB royally F*cked up . He didn't keep their Hero in New England. So F him I want him to Fail :coffee:
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The Patriot Way left and is in Tampa now enjoying the sun and surf and another Lombardi. 😉
 
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Mazz22 said:
The Patriot Way left and is in Tampa now enjoying the sun and surf. 😉
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Your mistaken belief in that erroneous idea perfectly illustrates where the essence of your fandom lies: in an individual player, and not in a team. What a disgustingly unfair comment to make which is disrespectful to scores of players, coaches and other personnel who worked tirelessly and unselfishly to make The Patriot Way a reality. So, Kraft, Belichick, McDaniels, Scarnecchia, McGinest, Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Branch, McCourty, Slater, Harrison and many others contributed nothing to the concept of The Patriot Way. What a pathetically selfish point of view. You should be embarrassed by it, but you won't be.
 
This board really needs to lighten up just a bit despite the pouring rain. TC is less than 2 weeks away!

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Roberto71 said:
Brady left for sunny Florida, one final leg of his career, get well paid and have a bit of "fun" so he took it.
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How can you NOT blame Bill, though? Aren't you paying attention to the stuck needle?

Cheers
 
Mazz22 said:
The Patriot Way left and is in Tampa now enjoying the sun and surf and another Lombardi. 😉
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I am not the only one that believes it.

Danny Amendola:

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Danny Amendola: 'Tom Brady is the "Patriot Way,"' not the Patriots' coaches

With Tom Brady's split from New England, 2020 was always going to be viewed by some as a referendum on who was more responsible for the Patriots' success, Brady or Bill Belichick. Former Pats WR Danny Amendola suggested TB12 was the main reason.
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And also Ted Johnson:


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And then Bill himself:

"Tom was not just a player who bought into our program. He was one of its original creators. Tom lived and perpetuated our culture. On a daily basis, he was a tone setter and a bar raiser.

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Statements from Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels on QB Tom Brady

Patriots Chairman and CEO Robert Kraft and Head Coach Bill Belichick and Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels have issued the following statements on quarterback Tom Brady.
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SkiptoMyLou said:
With this meme response I'm going to assume in your own way you're admitting to be trolling. Apology accepted. Now keep Brady out of this thread. Thanks.
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Just providing some filler while we wait for TC. I completely accept and enjoy different viewpoints. Lots of Bill worshippers here and that is fine. We need the spice.
 
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