ParanoidPatriot
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Yup it lasted until 9:23.
Mac obviously is not the starter. Anyone who says otherwise is whistling past the graveyard and letting the 1st round pick and "Bama days blind them. He does nothing well, or even above average. His strengths have not manifested themselves in any consistent way, even last year. This year has been an abject disaster and his running is an indicator of something be it inability to read coverage or whatnot.
Zappe probably isn't the answer either, but he seems to have a good ability to drop and pop when the game flow is in his favor. As a rookie, with extremely limited reps in practice it's not shocking he struggles at times. Also, most rookies, Jones included, are gonna have a hard tome with no running game and behind the sticks or scoreboard. I loved the Mac pick and had high hopes but it just isn't there. Ball comes out weird, and Zappe has more zip on the ball, I don't care who argues he doesn't. It's clear.
One thing I haven't seen discussed (and in fairness, it's waaay down the list of important things) is Marcus Jones last night. On the downside, wtf, take a touchback occasionally! On the upside, that play he made going horizontal to break up the pass? That was awesome. It would have been more awesome if he wasn't having to flash because he was 2 steps behind, but that closing speed and level of instincts! Can't wait to see this kid develop...
Great point, I agreeI warned one of the LWs last night that Belichick defenses can scheme away almost anything, but struggle with extremely athletic players who gain energy from improving. Fields is a great example of that.
Mac's throws have way too much float in them. He should be giving the punter some of that float...Mac obviously is not the starter. Anyone who says otherwise is whistling past the graveyard and letting the 1st round pick and "Bama days blind them. He does nothing well, or even above average. His strengths have not manifested themselves in any consistent way, even last year. This year has been an abject disaster and his running is an indicator of something be it inability to read coverage or whatnot.
Zappe probably isn't the answer either, but he seems to have a good ability to drop and pop when the game flow is in his favor. As a rookie, with extremely limited reps in practice it's not shocking he struggles at times. Also, most rookies, Jones included, are gonna have a hard tome with no running game and behind the sticks or scoreboard. I loved the Mac pick and had high hopes but it just isn't there. Ball comes out weird, and Zappe has more zip on the ball, I don't care who argues he doesn't. It's clear.
This is kneejerk insult to thoughtful members here who truly understand football, both college and pro, and spend time analyzing games, plays, and players, and posting that information.Mac obviously is not the starter. Anyone who says otherwise is whistling past the graveyard and letting the 1st round pick and "Bama days blind them.
Yeah I pretty much agree, but as I said I don't think Zappe has the complete package either but it is worth looking in to. I went at it with a lot of people back in '01 when Brady came in. I was right then, and I think I am right now. The visual test is all that I really need to go off of.Mac's throws have way too much float in them. He should be giving the punter some of that float...
Zap/E is the better QB...but, he needs to work on his shortcomings as well.
You won't get a lot of traction (unless backlash is what you're looking for) around here arguing for tanking under any circumstances. Also, Bill would absolutely never - and he shouldn't, with only so many games left in his career even if you think it's okay generally - so it's beyond moot.Yeah I pretty much agree, but as I said I don't think Zappe has the complete package either but it is worth looking in to. I went at it with a lot of people back in '01 when Brady came in. I was right then, and I think I am right now. The visual test is all that I really need to go off of.
I'd run Zappe as QB1 the rest of the season and then see where you are at the end of it. If he looks great or is on an upward trajectory, great. If not, its back the the drawing board. This is why is was so damn critical that they had tanked and got Lawrence. If Zappe isn't it, that will be looked back upon as an utter failure. When a potential generational QB is available in the draft, you do whatever you have to.
Or BB if he is still here, is gonna throw the bag at Jackson in the offseason and that will be that. I'm to opposed to that idea either.
I said the exact same thing! Lawrence is way better than Jones. sCam was a terrible experiment...Yeah I pretty much agree, but as I said I don't think Zappe has the complete package either but it is worth looking in to. I went at it with a lot of people back in '01 when Brady came in. I was right then, and I think I am right now. The visual test is all that I really need to go off of.
I'd run Zappe as QB1 the rest of the season and then see where you are at the end of it. If he looks great or is on an upward trajectory, great. If not, its back the the drawing board. This is why is was so damn critical that they had tanked and got Lawrence. If Zappe isn't it, that will be looked back upon as an utter failure. When a potential generational QB is available in the draft, you do whatever you have to.
Or BB if he is still here, is gonna throw the bag at Jackson in the offseason and that will be that. I'm to opposed to that idea either.
Young out of Bama and Stroud out of OSUAny elite QBs coming out of the draft? In 2023
Excellent point as he was dreadful last night - both punting and on KO's.And let's talk about another huge elephant in the room.
Jake Bailey. he was utter shite last night. He has not been kicking well for quite a while now. A ST focussed coach like Bill must be really annoyed about this.