I'm shocked and speechless - Manning

Peyton has serious character issues, doesn't he?
I think that's obvious from the details of this story. I also think it's obvious that this should be more about Peyton and his abuse of Dr. Naughright than how badly you guys feel the Patriots have been abused by the media.

I think in the grand scheme, a football team's image is a whole lot less important than the destruction of an innocent victim's life because she had the misfortune to be assaulted by a celebrity.

Do you guys really think the takeaway from all this is "Tom Brady is a better person than Peyton Manning."? Is that really the end game for bringing this to the public?
 
I think that's obvious from the details of this story. I also think it's obvious that this should be more about Peyton and his abuse of Dr. Naughright than how badly you guys feel the Patriots have been abused by the media.

I think in the grand scheme, a football team's image is a whole lot less important than the destruction of an innocent victim's life because she had the misfortune to be assaulted by a celebrity.

Do you guys really think the takeaway from all this is "Tom Brady is a better person than Peyton Manning."? Is that really the end game for bringing this to the public?

From you:

However, if you were to accept that both Spygate and Deflategate happened, it is not completely unreasonable to suspect that someone willing to cheat in one manner would be willing to cheat in another. It is not conclusive, and isn't enough by itself to show that guilty of one means guilty of the other.

The bolded part: If you go back and read what I said, putting the abuse aside for one moment, which is disgusting in and of itself, I said:

We know how he treated this woman. This should be about the power and influence that his father exerted (and still exerts) in certain circles; namely, UTenn, ESPN, NFL, Goodell, Elway. This man has covered up and protected his son probably from the first time this silver-spooned cretin got his first erection.

He has exhibited racism, mysogyny, narcissim, amongst other traits, including being a shitty teammate as told by those who have spoken out, a person who barely talks to anyone in the locker room, certainly exhibited by ducking out on the team party after winning a SB, no less, and carries himself in such a way as to appear pristine and shielded in carbon fiber when in reality he's a womanizer, an abuser, and a cheat.

So I addressed that. You chose not to read it or respond.
 
That 1994 incident must be even worse if Peyton's lawyers asked for the record to be sealed. Hope this new lawsuit exposes it.

How ironic. Peyton* asks for the record to be sealed because he is scum. Brady's layers ask for public exposure for his appeal because the league is scum.
 
I think that's obvious from the details of this story. I also think it's obvious that this should be more about Peyton and his abuse of Dr. Naughright than how badly you guys feel the Patriots have been abused by the media.

I think in the grand scheme, a football team's image is a whole lot less important than the destruction of an innocent victim's life because she had the misfortune to be assaulted by a celebrity.

Do you guys really think the takeaway from all this is "Tom Brady is a better person than Peyton Manning."? Is that really the end game for bringing this to the public?
The big take away is ManninHGH is total scum and the biggest Fake/Phony the NFL has ever seen.
 
I'm not one of those people, as I favor drawing conclusions from sufficient evidence.

However, if you were to accept that both Spygate and Deflategate happened, it is not completely unreasonable to suspect that someone willing to cheat in one manner would be willing to cheat in another. It is not conclusive, and isn't enough by itself to show that guilty of one means guilty of the other.

Sexually assaulting someone doesn't have anything to do with using drugs of any kind, so it's even more unrelated.

Either way, I feel like this should be more about how badly Peyton treated this woman, during the incident and even moreso, after, than about your perceived media slights against the Patriots.

But maybe that's just me.

First of all, Spygate was BB and had nothing to do with TFB+

The Wells report completely exonerated BB and the Pats and said they had no knowledge or involvement with the balls. Wells laid the blame solely on the two knuckleheads and TFB+.

So, no, one doesn't have anything to do with the other.

Regarding the HGH and Dr. Naughright, if one assumes for a moment that the HGH claim is true, there is one common element between them.

An attitude that they are above the law and the rules that apply to others don't apply to them.

Now I'm sure such an attitude is not unique to Manning, there are countless college and pro athletes who have this attitude.

I suspect it is because no one ever said "no" to them most of their life. They were the stud athlete and people bend over backwards for them to keep them happy and win football, basketball, tiddlywinks, etc.

So do you think it is not completely unreasonable to suspect that someone willing to think they are above the rules in one instance would think that in another?
 
The Manning family, much like the Duggar family, in that FINALLY they have been exposed after I have been calling "BULLSHIT" on both for years even though the media loved them.
 
Brady must be pretty clean in his past because you can bet reporters have been digging the past year to get something on him.

A redacted incident in 1994 against Peyton the Pig? Red flag! I wish we really had reporters out there that would do some real investigating. TMZ, get on the job!
 
I'm really getting the impression that many of you are more interested in how this makes Brady and the Patriots look better by virtue of Manning's fall from grace, than of the fact that an innocent woman was assaulted and had her life ruined by a scumbag and his dad.

It's really pretty sad that you're using her tragic experience to try to build up a player and a team that has nothing at all to do with it. Tear down Peyton for this all you want, but it's disrespectful to Dr. Naughright to make this about "Brady is better than Peyton, Patriots rule!"
 
I'm really getting the impression that many of you are more interested in how this makes Brady and the Patriots look better by virtue of Manning's fall from grace, than of the fact that an innocent woman was assaulted and had her life ruined by a scumbag and his dad.

It's really pretty sad that you're using her tragic experience to try to build up a player and a team that has nothing at all to do with it. Tear down Peyton for this all you want, but it's disrespectful to Dr. Naughright to make this about "Brady is better than Peyton, Patriots rule!"
if you ask a question, expect a response. I think it is called leading a witness.

But he screw The Mannings
 
I'm really getting the impression that many of you are more interested in how this makes Brady and the Patriots look better by virtue of Manning's fall from grace, than of the fact that an innocent woman was assaulted and had her life ruined by a scumbag and his dad.

It's really pretty sad that you're using her tragic experience to try to build up a player and a team that has nothing at all to do with it. Tear down Peyton for this all you want, but it's disrespectful to Dr. Naughright to make this about "Brady is better than Peyton, Patriots rule!"

Yet your handle is the BS Police...and trying to slam the Pats and everything related. Hypocrite...:coffee:
 
I'm really getting the impression that many of you are more interested in how this makes Brady and the Patriots look better by virtue of Manning's fall from grace, than of the fact that an innocent woman was assaulted and had her life ruined by a scumbag and his dad.

It's really pretty sad that you're using her tragic experience to try to build up a player and a team that has nothing at all to do with it. Tear down Peyton for this all you want, but it's disrespectful to Dr. Naughright to make this about "Brady is better than Peyton, Patriots rule!"

But.....Brady IS better than Peyton and the Patriots DO rule.

:shrug:

Get back to me when the NFL punishes Denver in any way, shape or form for what their QB did. Last time I checked our team was severely punished for absolutely nothing and many of us are still angry about that. If you don't get that than it appears you have some major comprehension issues.

Of course, I feel bad for what happened to Dr. Naughright. It's a very disturbing story. However, that happened a long time ago and has relatively little to do with is what is happening today. Manning got away with it then and I doubt there is anything that can be done about it now, although I'd like to be wrong about that. My focus is mainly on current precedent and the actions of a league that is always crowing about their focus on integrity.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Is it because you are an argumentative braying jackass trying your best to piss me off using whatever bullshit pops into your head?

I'd say that is probably the case. Bring something more substantive to the table or fvck off. You've got nothing.
 
I'm shocked and speechless

It's late in the thread, so this is a bit of an afterthought,

But

Speechless Lisa, speechless? ROFL

Cheers, BostonTim
 
But.....Brady IS better than Peyton and the Patriots DO rule.

:shrug:

Get back to me when the NFL punishes Denver in any way, shape or form for what their QB did. Last time I checked our team was severely punished for absolutely nothing and many of us are still angry about that. If you don't get that than it appears you have some major comprehension issues.

Of course, I feel bad for what happened to Dr. Naughright. It's a very disturbing story. However, that happened a long time ago and has relatively little to do with is what is happening today. Manning got away with it then and I doubt there is anything that can be done about it now, although I'd like to be wrong about that. My focus is mainly on current precedent and the actions of a league that is always crowing about their focus on integrity.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Is it because you are an argumentative braying jackass trying your best to piss me off using whatever bullshit pops into your head?

I'd say that is probably the case. Bring something more substantive to the table or fvck off. You've got nothing.

Well said.

From day one with all this ManninHGH crap, his shilling for pizza and beer, and sexual assault charges, we have been looking for ANY level of treatment by the media and league that was consistent with how they dealt with Brady/Pats. Yet we have nada, not surprisingly.

It is interesting though how the black media are noticing the same trend with Cam and how he has been vilified after his post-game press conference while Peyton* skates on sexual assault charges.

Here is an interesting piece by ESPN today that shows the unbelievable dichotomy. Pats/Brady are mentioned.

A look in the mirror: What Peyton Manning allegations tell us about sports, ourselves


Two cannons of confetti rained on American sports when the final gun concluded Super Bowl 50 last Sunday. The first was literal, the meaningless strips of colored paper celebrating Von Miller, Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos. The second, which came later in the form of the weeklong narratives surrounding Cam Newton's postgame news conference, Peyton Manning's last-stand triumph and allegations of sexual assault, was metaphorical, resembling pieces of a jigsaw puzzle tossed high, disparate but interconnected, and this confetti is not harmless.

The pieces are scattered on the floor. In between each is noise -- angry, perplexed, frustrating, resigned, aggrieved noise. For a week, Newton's sour news conference has received the treatment of the major news event of the day, bigger than Miller, bigger than the Broncos, even though Newton never once raised his voice and did not verbally attack the assembled press -- in a time when Bill Belichick and Gregg Popovich unprofessionally make daily sport out of belittling professional journalists and it's laughed off as curmudgeonly genius.

In a time of Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, Greg Hardy, Johnny Manziel and Baylor University, Newton being upset that he lost a football game has received far more attention than Manning's involvement in being named in a lawsuit against the University of Tennessee alleging the university has fostered a hostile work environment for women. The lawsuit alleges that Manning -- already hounded by HGH allegations this summer -- placed his naked genitals on the face of a female athletic trainer in 1996 while she was examining him for an injury. Manning has denied that he assaulted the trainer, saying instead that he was "mooning" a teammate. And in spite of his inclusion in the lawsuit, the mainstream power machine -- the networks, the NFL itself, the media -- is reluctant or outright unwilling to add Manning to a list that in the past it has been so unworried about naming.

The world is filled with false equivalents, but without discussion of all of the pieces, without journalism actually doing its job and connecting them, the public is left to its own devices to explain the noise between the pieces. Right now it concludes conspiracy: It concludes the football machine has created Manning as the untouchable, corporate golden child whose legacy as a role model will be destroyed by covering the allegations. Then, in an era of concussion concerns, the corporate dollars and public goodwill he generates as the humble face of ability and class (something the anti-Dabbers believe Newton lacked and for which he deserves eternal punishment), well, that will disappear, too. Thus, the recourse is more conspiracy: to bury the story, to let Manning walk.

In the black community, the public has concluded the conspiracy is, yes, that the price of protecting Manning is sacrificing Newton: Because the airwaves won't cover one, it must be filled by castigating the other. In New England, still wounded and enraged by Deflategate, it concludes the NFL will go after the Patriots, that the league was willing to sacrifice Tom Brady. It has concluded the NFL will go after everyone and anyone but Peyton Manning, who has created a narrative of football royalty -- born a prince of a football family, embedded with NFL business partners and rumored as potential Tennessee Titans owner someday. It concludes that the NFL machine will not only avoid investigating him, but it also will trip over itself to protect him. And thus, Manning is insulated from sexual assault and PED allegations and anything else that would diminish his currency, and by extension, theirs.

To women, the conclusion of conspiracy is that a professional such as Dr. Jamie Naughright, the woman who says Manning sat on her face two decades ago, does not matter, either to the runaway college money machine or to the NFL, if the cost is holding Peyton Manning accountable and risking the narrative of wholesomeness he represents. Naughright and women like her have for decades been sacrificed not only by the league but by the media outlets that decide whose stories get told and whose don't.
Challenging Manning required confronting the entire monument of his enormous privilege, from his being the face of the first family of the NFL to challenging one of the most powerful college conferences, the SEC, to the task of revisiting the uncomfortable beliefs of some that maybe women don't belong in the locker room after all.

This cannot be avoided, either.

The truth is that in many ways, all are correct, and like with all conspiracies, everyone has to take their piece of it. That racially, the filter of professional sports is this: Black players, who make up the majority (or in baseball, where the near majority is Latino-African American), are filtered through a predominately white season-ticket base and predominately white talk radio-broadcast media machine, and the result is distortion. Maybe the coverage of Newton is payback for an athlete who dared defenses all season to take him down and finally received his comeuppance. Maybe it's that special alchemy of admiration and hatred fans can have for black athletes. There were people who wanted to see Ali get his ass kicked, others who wanted to see him get his black ass kicked.
Newton, a week after the Super Bowl in a media that supposedly moves faster than a bullet train, is still the topic the machine seems to want to discuss in all of its paternalistic racial codes of how much Cam will learn from this and whether Cam showed enough contrition. This all occurs while a pending lawsuit discusses Peyton Manning -- representative of the Nationwide jingle, mediocre pizza and, ostensibly, NFL family values -- accused of placing his genitals on the face of a woman as part of a larger action regarding the culture at the University of Tennessee.
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</ARTICLE>If a verdict had to be announced today, it almost certainly would conclude that the answer is no, the public, teams, leagues and media do not want to connect these pieces of the jigsaw puzzle. These pieces are not just important individually but explain the reaction to why Peyton Manning is getting a free pass or why Brady can visibly swear on television with no repercussion to his standing; why Brett Favre could race down the sideline after scoring a touchdown with his helmet off and somehow have it not be taunting the other team -- and why a week after the Super Bowl, when game has been won and the Disney floats are back in the garage, Cam Newton is still, as they say today, trending.

Nor, it must be said, have media outlets showed much courage in confronting other truths: That while the Naughright deposition against Manning was just that, a one-sided document explaining her view of what occurred that day in 1996, media routinely carry full news cycles for weeks on often one-sided documents that explain one viewpoint of what occurred in a given incident, with often devastating consequences for people and their reputations. They are called police reports.

Every day, whether it is too much Newton or too little Manning, the pieces of confetti fall from the sky. They land on the street, each separated by noise but waiting to be connected. The question is whether the public, the leagues, the fans and the media have the courage to confront and fit the pieces together, and whether we can handle what the finished puzzle says about all of us.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...g-allegations-cam-newton-press-conference-nfl
 
I think that's obvious from the details of this story. I also think it's obvious that this should be more about Peyton and his abuse of Dr. Naughright than how badly you guys feel the Patriots have been abused by the media.

I think in the grand scheme, a football team's image is a whole lot less important than the destruction of an innocent victim's life because she had the misfortune to be assaulted by a celebrity.

Do you guys really think the takeaway from all this is "Tom Brady is a better person than Peyton Manning."? Is that really the end game for bringing this to the public?



Have I even mentioned TFB or the Patriots here? Didn't think so.

This incident proves to me that Peyton is willing to go to any lengths to evade punishment for any acts of questionable behavior. He's a vengeful schemer, a perjurer, and a remorseless sex offender.

The media created a Peyton Manning who doesn't exist.
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/01/peyton-s-manning-s-forgotten-sex-scandal.html

The Denver Broncos’ star quarterback is receiving heaps of praise this week in the lead-up to the Super Bowl. But Manning has one big skeleton in his closet.

Peyton Manning isn’t worried. Even if Sunday’s Super Bowl matchup against the Carolina Panthers “might be his last rodeo,” he scans as the same affectless dude that enjoys nothing more than humming variations on the Nationwide jingle. One thing in particular that he’s totally not worried about is the NFL’s probe into the allegations that he used human growth hormones. “I do welcome it. It’s no news to me,” Manning said on Thursday.
How do you know when Manning is legitimately worried? He gets angry, and vindictive, and he absolutely will not let go.

To wit, way back in 1996 when Manning was a junior at the University of Tennessee, he allegedly sexually harassed a female trainer. According to this excerpt from the university’s investigative report, Jamie Ann Naughright (then Whited) was treating Manning’s foot when he began “asking me several personal questions” including whether she “hang(s) out with people she works with.”

When Naughright rebuffed Manning, he decided to drop trou. Naughright had her head down, but upon hearing the chuckles and guffaws, she looked up only to find herself face-to-face with Manning’s exposed ass and testicles.
“It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up,” Naughright would later say in a court deposition in a suit against the University of Tennessee (more on this in a bit). “To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off.”

How did UT discipline Manning? They took away his “privilege to eat at the athletic facilities dining room, and requiring him to run at 6:00 a.m. for two weeks.” The dining room ban was subsequently reduced to two weeks as well.
The allegations made against Manning came to light as one of numerous sexual harassment claims cited against the University of Tennessee. Naughright and the university ended up agreeing to a $300,000 settlement. The terms remained confidential.

But Manning needed to have the final word. In the book he co-wrote with his father, Archie, and a ghostwriter, Manning: A Father, His Sons, and a Football Legacy, though he described his actions as “inappropriate,” he felt Naughright should have laughed off the up-close display of his rump and should have viewed it as “Crude, maybe, but harmless.” Manning also felt the need to call her a “vulgar woman,” swore that he was actually mooning a fellow teammate, not Naughright, and said that all of this unpleasantness could have been avoided were it not for the destruction of male-only spaces.
“Never mind that women in the men’s locker room is one of the most misbegotten concessions to equal rights ever made,” Manning wrote. “When Dad played, there was still at least a tacit acknowledgment that women and men are two different sexes, with all that implies, and a certain amount of decorum had to be maintained. Meaning when it came to training rooms and shower stalls, the opposite sex was not allowed. Common sense tells you why.”

“Common sense” indeed. In 2002, Naughright filed a defamation lawsuit against Manning, claiming that he was attempting to rewrite history. Naughright had since moved on to Florida Southern College and though she wasn’t personally named by Manning in the book, she received a letter “addressed to ‘Dr. Vulgar Mouth Whited.’’’

“It became common knowledge on campus that Dr. Naughright was the athletic trainer referred to by the defendants in Manning,” the lawsuit stated. As a result, she “was treated differently by both students and colleagues and her employment situation at Florida Southern College became untenable, which ultimately resulted in her leaving the employment of Florida Southern College.”

As to the question of to whom Manning wanted to show his ass, Malcolm Saxon, a track and field athlete who was in the room during the incident, wrote a letter to Manning to say that no, he was not the intended moon-ee (as Manning had written in his book), imploring him to “maintain some dignity and admit to what happened… Your celebrity doesn’t mean you can treat folks that way… Do the right thing here.”

Naughright and Manning ended up agreeing to an out-of-court settlement in 2003 that included a confidentiality ban on both parties. “He felt it was his mistake, he tried to apologize and he was remorseful,” Archie Manning told the Associated Press of his son’s incident in 2003. “He got punished and he took his punishment.”
Manning, however, just couldn’t keep his mouth shut.

Two years later, Naughright again took Manning to court after he violated the terms of the agreement by babbling about the incident “on network television nationally in a documentary entitled ESPN Classic Sports Century: Peyton Manning.”

If doubling-down and/or protesting way too much rings true when it comes to Manning, it should. In December, on the night before Al Jazeera America named Manning in its extensive documentary detailing the use of human growth hormones by pro athletes, Manning grabbed every available microphone he could find, calling the report “complete garbage.” He dropped by ESPN the following morning in a state of indignation, said the report was “bull” and that while he “wasn’t losing any sleep... disgusted is really how I feel, sickened by it.”

If that wasn’t enough of a PR pushback, Manning even signed up George Bush’s former press secretary, Ari Fleischer, to bash Al Jazeera.
Once again, Manning couldn’t resist the temptation to take a potshot at an already beaten target. In early January, after reporters told him that Al Jazeera America would be permanently shuttering its doors, he sarcastically told USA Today: “I’m sure that’s just devastating to all their viewers.”
The Daily Beast emailed Mike Freeman, Bleacher Report’s NFL national lead writer, to ask why Manning turns to this brand of bullying offensive when he’s challenged.

“For every classy part of Manning, the one that sells pizzas and says, ‘Golly gee and aw shucks,’ there is a bit of a ruthless guy, in my opinion,” he wrote. “This is not stated maliciously. It’s stated honestly. I think what he did with Jamie is an example of that. He does that [exposes himself] to her, which is a despicable thing, and then later in his book, takes a shot at her. That shot was calculated. It was a way of trying to diminish Jamie and her original accusations.”
According to Freeman, Manning is able to get away with this because he is to a certain degree immune from criticism.

“Part of the reason why Manning hits back twice as hard—which is his right—is because he knows he’ll receive cover from large swaths of the media who will believe anything he says,” he wrote. “There are football writers, lots of them, that would lay their bodies over a puddle of water and let Manning walk over their bodies so his cleats don’t get wet.”
And it worked. Despite the revelation of a second confidential source verifying Al Jazeera’s investigation, Manning’s alleged HGH use has been more or less relegated to a non-story even in the midst of the relentless press frenzy that is Super Bowl media week.

The comparison to Cam Newton, the quarterback that’ll be on the other side of field on Super Bowl Sunday, couldn’t be more stark, not when detractors still cite his relatively trivial stolen laptop incident that got him booted from the University of Florida, or as grave an offense as his touchdown celebrations inspire pearl-clutching letters to the editor bemoaning his arrogance, calling him a “spoiled brat,” and literally begging him to think about the children. Granted, as Slate’s Tommy Craggs wrote, the “Tennessee Mom’s” panic feels like an outlier, “a holdout in a culture war long since ended, an old soldier bustling out of a cave with fixed bayonet, blinking in a new day’s sun.”

But were PED allegations leveled at Newton it’s hard to imagine Al Jazeera itself would be on the receiving end of the bulk of the criticism and seen its credibility repeatedly questioned. CBS’s Jim Nantz decided that the best course of action here is total silence. “If we talk about it we would only continue to breathe life into a story that on all levels is a non-story,” Nantz explained. Funny thing, Nantz and Manning share an agent who also happens to be a former business partner of Ari Fleischer’s.

Angrily not talking about Manning is practically a cottage industry. “Al Jazeera is not a credible news organization. They’re out there spreading garbage,” ESPN’s Mike Ditka told The Boston Globe. “That’s what they do, yet we give them credibility by talking about it.”

Fox News even went so far as to wonder if Al Jazeera’s real agenda here was to destroy “American icons and U.S. institutions.”
In this friendly a media climate, where alleged sexual harassment is largely forgotten, why would Peyton Manning worry?
 
Some of the media is bullied into their ostrich attitude, but many are willing partners in covering up Peyton the Pig's* transgressions. The Pats wouldn't play the media game so got trashed with Tom caught in the hatewave. Money is, as always, at the root of all corruption. The media are happy to trash Tom and Jamie Naughright and let the Pig* walk.
 
Some of the media is bullied into their ostrich attitude, but many are willing partners in covering up Peyton the Pig's* transgressions. The Pats wouldn't play the media game so got trashed with Tom as caught in the hatewave. Money is, as always, at the root of all corruption. The media are happy to trash Tom and Jamie Naughright and let the Pig* walk.

It is not that the Pats do not play the media game - you won't find much better spokesmen than Kraft or Brady for that matter, it is that they win. Peyton* has always been the lovable loser. Great regular season QB who chokes in the post-season. Nothing changed this season, the worst of his career except he had a D for the ages carrying him to the title.

But as with all things, eventually the media turns on you. Pey Pey* is not friends with everyone, especially the black media who are ready for his southern, fake butt to take a back seat to Cam and Russell. It really is just a matter of expediency. Hopefully Peyton* is reading the tea leaves and announces his retirement. Elway gave him the best send off he knew how but part of me believes he will come back because he will want the money no matter how much he sucks.
 
I'm really getting the impression that many of you are more interested in how this makes Brady and the Patriots look better by virtue of Manning's fall from grace, than of the fact that an innocent woman was assaulted and had her life ruined by a scumbag and his dad.

It's really pretty sad that you're using her tragic experience to try to build up a player and a team that has nothing at all to do with it. Tear down Peyton for this all you want, but it's disrespectful to Dr. Naughright to make this about "Brady is better than Peyton, Patriots rule!"

Then you're getting the wrong impression.

Many of us are upset that the league and media aren't standing by this women. Her experience is still tragic as Peyton is still skating and not taking responsibility. What he did was wrong on so many levels, what he's doing now is just as wrong. What the league and media are doing is equally tragic concerning this women. Where's all this integrity now is the question we're wondering. He's been lying about this for years now and everyone knows it, the question now becomes what else has he lied about and what else has been covered up to protect the "shield". Brady got punish for lying. Goodell didn't believe him ........ Shouldn't the media and the league be just as concerned about this women's integrity and The Mannings lying? I think it's a fair question.

~Dee~
 
The Daily News says they have a redacted document that they are hoping to share soon. So more to come. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...portion-of-manning-document-will-be-released/

"Now, Shaun King of the Daily News hints via Twitter that information regarding the 1994 incident could soon emerge.
“I believe we will be able to release the redacted portion of the court documents as well,” King writes via Twitter. “I’ve discovered what that was about. Deep & ugly.”


They are also hoping to get Naughright to come forward and speak. If she does, look out as this as Tiger Woods potential if she starts making the media rounds which I hope she does.
 
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