The Dynasty

Roberto71 said:

Here's the first test folks. Tom Brady's HOF ceremony is set for 7pm June 12th. Will Bill be there? I'm sure he will, for Tom, but it will be awkward as hell between Bill and Bob.

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there will be NO awkwardness between Bill and Bob on account of Bob won't be there

just like at the Mayo as HC of NEP announcement when JAK (Combustible Jon ©®™ Shank All Rights Reserved) was absent

there will be an emergency at The Box Factory that Bob needs to immediately attend to, you see

edit to add: so JAK will have to endure all the boooos from the fans meant for Ol' Thunder (in absentia)

Exactly....

AkPatsFan said:

I have no idea why he did it, maybe to make BB look like a tyrant and make himself look like a saint? I will say this though, if this series was created to make BB look like a tyrant he pretty much succeeded, though anyone that was paying attention knew his (BB's) motivation in coaching was to win. This series could have been such much more but thanks to RK it will forever be a stain on the Pats organization.

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I agree with the bolded part as far as how it will play outside of Patriot Nation and among a small percentage on the inside, but Bob will feel a quite different reaction from
a large majority of whom are furious at the tasteless way Bill is getting publicly flogged in a very one-sided way.

We're not stupid. We all know there were/are pros and cons to Belichick, but a person would have to be completely unfamiliar with who he is to think
that he is really the guy they are portraying. Outsiders who only know him through slanted media portrayals. Or worse, they are zombie-like Tommites
who are incapable of any sort of rationality, as we've all seen demonstrated on these pages.

The whole deal makes me think of how at his farewell presser with Kraft he went out of his way to praise the fans for the way he has been treated by us. How grateful and lucky
most of us feel to have had him as our HC and number one football brain for over twenty years. And it seemed clear that it was mutual because the fans are just regular
people and aren't trying to compete for a share of the credit. He appreciated us deeply because he is mostly misunderstood but we totally got his crusty ways and what he
was all about. We love the guy. Nobody is perfect, but he's more perfecter than anybody else that ever had to carry the weight of all those thousands of decisions that got
us to the top of the mountain. The best team ever. And they are trying to destroy his reputation and his name.

Not all the players he's coached here earned multiple Super Bowl rings, but the fans all got six of them and hundreds of other huge moments. Nobody is taking any of them
away, either no matter what this documentary is attempting to do.

Kraft is very deserving of exactly what he is going to get the next time he takes the stage in front of Patriots nation. And I think he knows it by now. He's going to
be very, very sorry before long, but it's too late for him.

Hawg73 said:

I agree with the bolded part as far as how it will play outside of Patriot Nation and among a small percentage on the inside, but Bob will feel a quite different reaction from
a large majority of whom are furious at the tasteless way Bill is getting publicly flogged in a very one-sided way.

We're not stupid. We all know there were/are pros and cons to Belichick, but a person would have to be completely unfamiliar with who he is to think
that he is really the guy they are portraying. Outsiders who only know him through slanted media portrayals. Or worse, they are zombie-like Tommites
who are incapable of any sort of rationality, as we've all seen demonstrated on these pages.

The whole deal makes me think of how at his farewell presser with Kraft he went out of his way to praise the fans for the way he has been treated by us. How grateful and lucky
most of us feel to have had him as our HC and number one football brain for over twenty years. And it seemed clear that it was mutual because the fans are just regular
people and aren't trying to compete for a share of the credit. He appreciated us deeply because he is mostly misunderstood but we totally got his crusty ways and what he
was all about. We love the guy. Nobody is perfect, but he's more perfecter than anybody else that ever had to carry the weight of all those thousands of decisions that got
us to the top of the mountain. The best team ever. And they are trying to destroy his reputation and his name.

Not all the players he's coached here earned multiple Super Bowl rings, but the fans all got six of them and hundreds of other huge moments. Nobody is taking any of them
away, either no matter what this documentary is attempting to do.

Kraft is very deserving of exactly what he is going to get the next time he takes the stage in front of Patriots nation. And I think he knows it by now. He's going to
be very, very sorry before long, but it's too late for him.

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Bill was a perfect fit for a Boston sports public. Blue collar, tough, no BS about him and not worrying about being PC or media friendly. And above all, a winner. It's not easy to come as a HC to a team in the No.1 sports city in the US. Fans are used to success in Boston and are unforgiving of failure and can spot a BS artist immediately.

There's a reason Bill took that full-page ad out in the Globe to thank the Patriot fans specifically. Kraft, as you say, Hawg has completely misread the relationship that Bill had with the fans here, and he'll hear about it.

Hawg73 said:

I agree with the bolded part as far as how it will play outside of Patriot Nation and among a small percentage on the inside, but Bob will feel a quite different reaction from
a large majority of whom are furious at the tasteless way Bill is getting publicly flogged in a very one-sided way.

We're not stupid. We all know there were/are pros and cons to Belichick, but a person would have to be completely unfamiliar with who he is to think
that he is really the guy they are portraying. Outsiders who only know him through slanted media portrayals. Or worse, they are zombie-like Tommites
who are incapable of any sort of rationality, as we've all seen demonstrated on these pages.

The whole deal makes me think of how at his farewell presser with Kraft he went out of his way to praise the fans for the way he has been treated by us. How grateful and lucky
most of us feel to have had him as our HC and number one football brain for over twenty years. And it seemed clear that it was mutual because the fans are just regular
people and aren't trying to compete for a share of the credit. He appreciated us deeply because he is mostly misunderstood but we totally got his crusty ways and what he
was all about. We love the guy. Nobody is perfect, but he's more perfecter than anybody else that ever had to carry the weight of all those thousands of decisions that got
us to the top of the mountain. The best team ever. And they are trying to destroy his reputation and his name.

Not all the players he's coached here earned multiple Super Bowl rings, but the fans all got six of them and hundreds of other huge moments. Nobody is taking any of them
away, either no matter what this documentary is attempting to do.

Kraft is very deserving of exactly what he is going to get the next time he takes the stage in front of Patriots nation. And I think he knows it by now. He's going to
be very, very sorry before long, but it's too late for him.

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Excellent summation Hawg73 and amen to the bolded!!!

View: https://youtu.be/6i9U_ozm498?si=LMfw1YkjyntJXrf7

Biggest takeaway from the Dynasty? Verification that the Pats got Yoko'd. I said that a long time ago, and have for a long time if it wasn't for Gisele, TB would have stayed a Patriot. Thats the biggest irony of the whole past 4 years.

They didn't reset in '20 as they should have. So, they could have kept Brady and who knows what happens. He retires a legit Pat, Mac Jones is never a Patriot. Instead she gets in his ear, Yoko's the team..then cheats on him and divorces his ass. That is sad, and hilarious at the same time.

ViperGTS said:

Biggest takeaway from the Dynasty? Verification that the Pats got Yoko'd. I said that a long time ago, and have for a long time if it wasn't for Gisele, TB would have stayed a Patriot. Thats the biggest irony of the whole past 4 years.

They didn't reset in '20 as they should have. So, they could have kept Brady and who knows what happens. He retires a legit Pat, Mac Jones is never a Patriot. Instead she gets in his ear, Yoko's the team..then cheats on him and divorces his ass. That is sad, and hilarious at the same time.

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That's your biggest takeaway? Really?

This is not going to go well for Kraft.

Excellent article by a long time fan, Dan Kelley

chevss454 said:

Excellent article by a long time fan, Dan Kelley

Kelley: Why I Couldn’t Stand Apple TV’s “The Dynasty”

The word hate is not used in the Kelley household. If it was, the headline of this article would have been a proper place to use it. For ten episodes I sat through a series about the New England Patriots’ incredible 20-year reign atop the National Football League. Unlike the actual events “The...

patriotsfootballnow.com

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Dan Kelley said:

There is no question Bill Belichick was not going to be brought back for the 2024 season. How could he? Could Belichick walk into a building with Robert Kraft every day after seeing what had been said about him? Bill Belichick was a goner. It makes the 2023 season feel like a charade.

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yup...what i've believed since the shittiness of this came out.

also Dan Kelley,take a bow.

PumpDee said:

That's your biggest takeaway? Really?

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Yep. IMO the biggest thing with the Beatles, wasn't their music, it was Yoko tearing them apart. Ditto for this. Everything else is just window dressing.

Signing Rodney Harrison was one of Bill's greatest ackomplishments... so it would make sense that they left him out of a hit piece.

3 Point Stan said:

Signing Rodney Harrison was one of Bill's greatest ackomplishments... so it would make sense that they left him out of a hit piece.

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Yep, this whole series was terrible imo. I stopped watching it because it isn't a documentary it's as you stated a hit piece.

i'm old-school enough to respect most the man who refuses to air publicly his dirty laundry or fee-fees about everything that may affect others
#bbitis,notkraftorbrady

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This is car crash stuff for Kraft now. And there is now way he can spin his way out of this. He can't say he was duped as he blabs freely about a very private meeting between him and Tom and Giselle. I mean even Tom would not repeat what was said in that episode, yet literally, the very next scene there is ol Bob happily telling the world what was said. Even Jonathan was careful not to sound critical and was barely featured. RKK has made a fool of himself and many fans won't forgive him easily for his role in this hit piece of a show.

It was pathetic was Hamachek did. Like the way he shot the piece where Kraft claimed Tom was effectively jealous of Tim and saw him as a threat. They spliced that with footage after the AFCCG win in Arrowhead where Tom is talking to the press and they show Bill looking at Tom, trying to imply the look he was giving Tom was resentful and rife with envy. It was so damn sneaky.

What amazes me is how the Boston sports media are collectively burying their heads in the sand about this and pretending that it was a great series and offered fascinating insights. I watched Perillo, Kirsch, and even Deuce talking fondly about how great the show was and not mentioning anything the fans have been saying and the uproar it's caused. They tried to deflect opinions that it was a hit piece on Bill with comments about how the last episode showed what a defensive genius Bill was with that win over the Rams in the SB. They seem very defensive about it, probably because it's a Kraft production and they are after all, Kraft employees.

But a lot of it is this resentment that many of them have and will always have about mean ol Bill and how he treated them. They will never persuade me otherwise.

HSanders said:

Gronk Goes All Out to Set the Record Straight on Belichick's Legacy: 'Without Him, None of This Was Possible.'

Getty Images.I want to be done with the anti-Belichick propaganda that was AppleTV's The Dynasty. Honestly, I want to forget it ever wasted 10 hours of my life on this joyless, depressing, desultory,...

www.barstoolsports.com

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Love this comment:

"All time backfire. Brady and belichick forever, Kraft made precisely one good decision and ate off it for 20 years."