Is the NFL fun to watch anymore?

This is interesting, actually.

Between these two teams, how many flags get thrown?
Oh, no idea.
I was talking about the season as a whole. The ridiculous number of DPIs SEEM to have gone down in the playoffs, and my frustration level at that crap is also down.

Actual numbers per team-?, perception that they are now 'letting them play' more- ^.

That's what I meant.
 
What if the baby is floating face down? Can I throw it out then?


Hmmm... I suppose I could find some other use for it. I can recycle, I suppose. Sigh.



It depends. Does the baby weigh more than a deflated football? Would the baby have grown up to play for the jetsam?
 
Oh, no idea.
I was talking about the season as a whole. The ridiculous number of DPIs SEEM to have gone down in the playoffs, and my frustration level at that crap is also down.

Actual numbers per team-?, perception that they are now 'letting them play' more- ^.

That's what I meant.

Which is true.

But considering these two teams are the biggest "offenders" so to speak, I'm really curious how that all shakes out.
 
Which is true.

But considering these two teams are the biggest "offenders" so to speak, I'm really curious how that all shakes out.

Yeah, if we get a 2006 AFCCG-style bullshit call determining the outcome of the SB, it will not be good.
 
I love the Pats and the actual game and strategy of football. I recognize things need to evolve and improve over time, so I don't expect the NFL to be like it was in the 70s when I started watching it. My problem is I don't think most of the things that have been done under Goodell's watch are improvements.

I realize that most of what has been done is to maximize revenue. I have no problem with companies maximizing revenue. My problem is when they compromise the quality of the product to do so. That is the point I think they are reaching. And it saddens me. But I still love the game itself.

I do also agree with Bid on the media stuff. I stopped reading all the media outlets as a daily pursuit (Projo/ESPN/NFL.com/Herald/Globe etc.) after the 07 year. That was the year it really hit home how absolutely self serving the media is and how few are worth the time and clicks. I am old enough to remember when the story was the story, not the media being first to report, etc. I will browse occasionally and read stories posted here, but I no longer peruse the media with regularity. I used to get Pro Football Weekly and probably still would were it in business, but I stopped getting my other sports paper that was m mostly NFL awhile ago. I now get only the Pats Football Weekly.
 
I've spent a lot of time in my life following the Pats and this league and I definitely hear you.

Case in point: A TD is scored, a useless extra point is attempted which is a waste of time, cut to a long series of Geico and boner pill ads, back to a kickoff which is downed for a touchback in most cases and then another round of Papa John and paranoid Rob Lowe followed by network promos right up until the last nano-second before the ball is snapped. It can be agonizing at times to be subjected to such blatant commercialism and if you are lucky enough to be at a game you are still twiddling your thumbs to all this stuff while the refs hold everything up to make billionaires richer.

Way too much dead time and we are being conditioned over time to accept a product which is inferior to what it once was. For sure.
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Total agreement. I remember when TV games were 3 hours long. Somehow as the years pass and the commercial breaks are seeming more and more frequent and longer and longer, now games are at least 3 1/2 hours. And that's not more play time - that's 30 MS more pitch time. Watch a play. Commercial. Watch another series - more commercials. Really hard anymore to get caught up in the rhythm of the game as there's so much blathering interrupting the action. I used to watch any and all games that were on just for the sheer joy of watching the fabulous game of football. Not anymore. Unless I really care about a team that's playing, chances are I won't even turn it on as all the BS is so tedious and exhausting. And I won't even get into the overall crappy announcing and horseshit you have to put up with coming out of the mouths of 3000 ex-players with an ax to grind. No longer the experience I used to look forward to every year.

:pat:
 
I'm still traumatized from the two Giants Superbowls.
I just started watching Pats games again about a month ago.( Bandwagon here I AM)! I absolutely hate all of the commercials, timeouts, camera pans of the female sideline reporters, The useless after halftime sideline reports from
over the hill models, 31 other NFL teams, and just about all the talking heads.

I'm sure I forgot a few things here too.

Maybe I'll stop watching again this week.
 
Way to many Flags....

regardeless of rooting interest...

NFL

National Flag league!
 
I'm glad someone posted this. Thanks Bid.

To me the more I watch the NFL the more a chore it is to watch. The only reason I keep coming back is because I love this sport so much, but it's a captive audience and the NFL knows it. It's like Facebook, if you want to use that type of friends based social media site you HAVE to use it. Sure there's Goolge Plus but no one is on it so Facebook has a monopoly. Same with the NFL, same with the WWE. Sure there's TNA but TNA sucks (IMO)

Lack of competition can ruin a powerful organization. Ever since Spygate I've known the league has it in for us. I mean we've got a former Jet as the freakin commissioner for God's sake. And if anyone, ANYONE wants to call B.S. on that just look at how terribly he managed the Ray Rice thing.

If there was a viable alternative to watch American Football I'd be GONE. But there isn't. For years now I've wondered how much more I could take. how much B.S. I'd have to put up with to watch my favorite sport. The officiating is the worst part, I mean it's just awful, it's biased, it's just plain garbage.
 
Way to many Flags....

regardeless of rooting interest...

NFL

National Flag league!

Can't see why you'd enjoy it under any circumstances-

Week 1- Chargers kick-off season

Week 2- Chargers eliminated from playoffs
 
I'm glad someone posted this. Thanks Bid.

To me the more I watch the NFL the more a chore it is to watch. The only reason I keep coming back is because I love this sport so much, but it's a captive audience and the NFL knows it. It's like Facebook, if you want to use that type of friends based social media site you HAVE to use it. Sure there's Goolge Plus but no one is on it so Facebook has a monopoly. Same with the NFL, same with the WWE. Sure there's TNA but TNA sucks (IMO)

Lack of competition can ruin a powerful organization. Ever since Spygate I've known the league has it in for us. I mean we've got a former Jet as the freakin commissioner for God's sake. And if anyone, ANYONE wants to call B.S. on that just look at how terribly he managed the Ray Rice thing.

If there was a viable alternative to watch American Football I'd be GONE. But there isn't. For years now I've wondered how much more I could take. how much B.S. I'd have to put up with to watch my favorite sport. The officiating is the worst part, I mean it's just awful, it's biased, it's just plain garbage.

I'll probably always watch the NFL, honestly. Life-long love of the game and of our New England Patriots keep me from quitting regardless of the flags, the idiotic commissioner, or anything else. It's incredibly hard for them to maintain a level of enjoyment with the games while maintaining the long-term wellbeing of the players. But, I still find lots of games exciting regardless.

The point about the lack of competition is a solid one, no doubt, and it's an issue in sports. But is this an NFL issue? Wrestling fans are doomed because after WWE, you have a whole bunch of promotions that no one else would hear of unless you're an actual die-hard wrestling enthusiast. The #2 wrestling promotion isn't even the abysmal TNA, but New Japan Pro Wrestling, which obviously won't appeal to anyone that considers themselves a casual wrestling fan. Lack of competition is a huge problem in WWE, because about 85-90% of the time, the product sucks because the writing is lazy and they aren't compelled to write anything that entices and engages the audience. Just like with the NFL, the WWE's higher ups (correctly) assume that the fans will watch regardless.

NFL's stronghold over football is well-documented, although you can argue that their main competitor is NCAA Football. But, professionally, there isn't a league that can remotely touch the NFL. Same with the NBA and the others.

But the main difference is that I don't perceive all of the NFL's problems to be because of a lack of competition. I just think they have a bunch of incompetent people running the organization that simply aren't preserving the quality of the game. They simply have other things to focus on (player safety, money, etc). If another football league made it to the level of competition that the NFL is at, while preserving player safety and health and etc, I'm not sure that the NFL would do anything differently to maintain their audience.

Good post.
 
No. As long as the Pats are beating the Colts by many points, it's no fun at all.

Thanks for asking on that one.
 
I'm glad someone posted this. Thanks Bid.

To me the more I watch the NFL the more a chore it is to watch. The only reason I keep coming back is because I love this sport so much, but it's a captive audience and the NFL knows it. It's like Facebook, if you want to use that type of friends based social media site you HAVE to use it. Sure there's Goolge Plus but no one is on it so Facebook has a monopoly. Same with the NFL, same with the WWE. Sure there's TNA but TNA sucks (IMO)

Lack of competition can ruin a powerful organization. Ever since Spygate I've known the league has it in for us. I mean we've got a former Jet as the freakin commissioner for God's sake. And if anyone, ANYONE wants to call B.S. on that just look at how terribly he managed the Ray Rice thing.

If there was a viable alternative to watch American Football I'd be GONE. But there isn't. For years now I've wondered how much more I could take. how much B.S. I'd have to put up with to watch my favorite sport. The officiating is the worst part, I mean it's just awful, it's biased, it's just plain garbage.

TNA rules! :boobies:
 
I hope we keep cheating to be perfectly honest.

Admitting it is the first step.............

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