Kline traded to Eagles

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My guess is the Eagles didn't want to pay his current salary and will sign him after he clears waivers.
 
My guess is their trade partner for Kline backed off. Can't imagine why else they'd tell the Pats to keep Kline.
 
EasyBigFella said:
My guess is their trade partner for Kline backed off. Can't imagine why else they'd tell the Pats to keep Kline.
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Yep

The Patriots released interior lineman Josh Kline today.
Kline was originally expected to be traded to the Eagles yesterday, but the Eagles pulled the plug on his involvement after a subsequent trade fell apart, according to two sources. The Eagles believed they were going to acquire Kline from the Patriots and then trade him elsewhere, but that second transaction never materialized, which led to the Eagles declining Kline's involvement in the trade.
<aside id="related-content"> </aside>The Pats still acquired defensive back Eric Rowe from the Eagles.
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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...lease_josh_kline_after_eagles_renege_on_trade
 
mikiemo83 said:
I would have gone with a drugged out chick at a Bill Cosby party with Sharper and Saap..... but I have weird humor at times.
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That's the polar opposite analogy because they'd all want and hit that.

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EasyBigFella said:
My guess is their trade partner for Kline backed off. Can't imagine why else they'd tell the Pats to keep Kline.
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Because after thinking about it they probably said why are we taking on nearly a $4 mil cap hit over the next 2 yrs for a backup OL?
 
Undertaker #59* said:
The only thing that gets me about the details is it is a 2018 4th rounder. Since the Pats do not have a 2017 4th rounder, that makes me think the Pats are giving the pick and Kline for Rowe
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Pats Pulpit had an interesting article today about the Pats tendency to trade 4th and 5th round picks.



Why the Patriots keep trading away their late round draft picks for players with NFL experience

By Rich Hill  @PP_Rich_Hill on Sep 7, 2016, 5:49a 17

The Patriots are taking advantage of the compensatory pick process to bolster their roster.

The New England Patriots have traded a 2018 4th round pick to the Eagles for DB Eric Rowe. They sent a 2017 5th round pick to the Browns for LB Barkevious Mingo. They shipped their 2016 4th round pick to the Bears for TE Martellus Bennett (and a 6th round pick).

Why are the Patriots so keen on getting rid of their mid-round picks?

Head coach Bill Belichick has traded away the team’s 5th round pick for six straight years, a clear indication that he doesn’t believe there is much value to be had in that round. He’s right, too. The success rate of a late 5th round pick- roughly when the Patriots draft on an annual basis- is negligibly different from the success rate of 6th and 7th rounders.

So why not trade a pick with very low odds of turning into a contributing player for a player with NFL experience and possible upside? Belichick has openly discussed the difference in scouting a player out of college, versus a player with NFL experience, and how the latter allows for a better evaluation in projecting success.

“It's always good when you can...evaluate players against known players,” Belichick said in an August press conference. “It's one thing to play them in the fourth quarter [of the preseason] against other players who don't really have much of a track record in the NFL, whereas if you put them in at other points of the [preseason] game you'd be able to see them against a guy that you have a lot better idea of what their skills are and how a young player would matchup on that.”​

Bennett, Mingo, and Rowe have all had various levels of success in the NFL, but the key unifying factor is that they’ve competed in the NFL. Belichick knows how they look on an NFL field and believes they can add value. Bennett and Mingo will be free agents after this season, while the Patriots have Rowe under control for through the 2018 season.

5th round picks aren’t guarantees to make the roster, while 4th rounders are rarely a lock beyond their rookie season. So if the Patriots can acquire a player that can contribute for one great season, then they’re likely getting a better return (albeit at a higher salary, in the case of Bennett) than they would have by using the late mid-to-late round picks on a rookie.

Additionally, the Patriots are feeling pretty confident they will recuperate these mid-to-late round draft picks via the compensatory pick process- and we have to remember that these compensatory picks are now tradeable starting in the 2017 draft.

The Patriots have a huge free agent class after this season, with players that will yield top draft picks if they depart.

Linebackers Dont’a Hightower and Jamie Collins, and edge defender Jabaal Sheard would likely fetch the Patriots a 2018 3rd round compensatory pick. Cornerback Logan Ryan will yield a 4th or a 5th round pick, based on his upcoming season, while safety Duron Harmon will likely result in a 5th or a 6th round pick. I would expect tight end Martellus Bennett to also net the Patriots a 6th or 7th round compensatory pick.

Fact is, the Patriots are extremely likely to add these late round picks through the compensatory process. If the Patriots can develop a prospect into a viable starter that leaves in free agency, then the Patriots will pick up a mid-to-late round compensatory pick- and it would seem that the Patriots have a good success rate at converting these trade pieces into viable starters.

The Patriots sent a 4th round pick to the Buccaneers for CB Aqib Talib, who signed with the Broncos and earned the Patriots a 3rd round compensatory pick. This pick was the recently released ED Geneo Grissom, but I think this just reinforces the notion that scouting NFL players is easier than projecting college players into the next level.

The Patriots acquired ED Akeem Ayers and a 7th round pick from the Titans for a 6th rounder, and LB Jonathan Casillas and a 6th round pick from the Buccaneers for a 5th rounder. Ayers and Casillas net the Patriots a 6th and 7th round compensatory pick after they left in free agency.

Just last season, the Patriots traded 4th string tight end Michael Hoomanawanui to the Saints for DT Akiem Hicks. Hicks just signed with the Bears in free agency and, if the Patriots release TE Clay Harbor by week 10, the Patriots would receive a 5th or 6th round compensatory pick.

So the Patriots have been acquiring these players with NFL experience in exchange for mid-to-late round draft picks knowing that these NFL players have better tape for projecting success, and also knowing that these picks will likely be recuperated down the road if the coaching staff turns these players into success stories.
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Seems that the use of these mid to late round picks has worked out relatively well for BB.

I agree with him completely that getting a guy who has actually played in the NFL is a big advantage.

How many college studs have flamed out in the NFL?

Quite a few. It isn't just projecting their skill set to the NFL level, it's can they make the mental adjustment to be a professional.

If they've actually played in the NFL you have real data to make an evaluation in that regard that you simply don't have for a draft pick.

Being able to flip guys for compensatory draft choices, if they leave in free agency after a year or two, for as good if not a higher draft pick then what you spent is just plain genius.
 
O_P_T said:
Pats Pulpit had an interesting article today about the Pats tendency to trade 4th and 5th round picks.





Seems that the use of these mid to late round picks has worked out relatively well for BB.

I agree with him completely that getting a guy who has actually played in the NFL is a big advantage.

How many college studs have flamed out in the NFL?

Quite a few. It isn't just projecting their skill set to the NFL level, it's can they make the mental adjustment to be a professional.

If they've actually played in the NFL you have real data to make an evaluation in that regard that you simply don't have for a draft pick.

Being able to flip guys for compensatory draft choices, if they leave in free agency after a year or two, for as good if not a higher draft pick then what you spent is just plain genius.
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So BB takes a 5th rounder. Spends it on a 2nd who becomes a viable member of the secondary for 3 seasons. And then after 3 years if the player develops and signs as a FA he can garner a 3rd.

Look to see the whole compensatory process to be revamped somehow.

Belichick playing chess.

League playing Uno.
 
Tenn Titans claimed Kline.
I'm happy for him. :toast:
 
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