Looking at the Patriots - 2021

[Big/Sky/Fly]

This was just from a 5 minute google search.

Ted Johnson

Ex-Patriots player explains how ruthless Bill Belichick can be in contract negotiations

The Patriots coach is probably going to get the best of you in any negotiation

www.cbssports.com

Danny Amendola

Danny Amendola: 'Tom Brady is the "Patriot Way,"' not the Patriots' coaches

With Tom Brady's split from New England, 2020 was always going to be viewed by some as a referendum on who was more responsible for the Patriots' success, Brady or Bill Belichick. Former Pats WR Danny Amendola suggested TB12 was the main reason.

www.nfl.com

Dion Lewis

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Nate Solder

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Gronk

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Chris Long

Chris Long says he won't re-sign with Patriots so he can be 'the player I was before'

Long’s one year in New England ended with a Super Bowl ring.

www.sbnation.com

Cassius Marsh

Former Patriots Linebacker Slams Bill Belichick, Says Team Treats 'Players Like Crap'

A former New England Patriots linebacker had some revealing things to say about Bill Belichick and the culture he had to deal with in Boston

www.awesemo.com

I would add Seymour...

There's a few brats out there for sure.

 

[Mazz22]

I would add Seymour...

There's a few brats out there for sure.

Adalius Thomas too

 

[Big/Sky/Fly]

I'm a yuge BB fan, but, I can see the angry ex Pats POV if they feel like everyone gave BB all of the glory and respect and admiration. But, if they're going to rant, they should do it in a professional and presentable and a well thought out manner.

 

[BostonTim]

Why do believe anything Asante has to say?

Not because it;s true? Simply because he can use it support his own Bill hared?

 

[Big/Sky/Fly]

All A$$ante had to do was catch that INT and do his job in the superbowl...sighs.

 

[bmooney54]

Not Cassius Marsh!

 

[Undertaker #59*]

Bill has gone out of his way several times after winning superbowls praising the players.

This is a silly narrative.

 

[spacecrime]

This was just from a 5 minute google search.

Ted Johnson

Ex-Patriots player explains how ruthless Bill Belichick can be in contract negotiations

The Patriots coach is probably going to get the best of you in any negotiation

www.cbssports.com

Danny Amendola

Danny Amendola: 'Tom Brady is the "Patriot Way,"' not the Patriots' coaches

With Tom Brady's split from New England, 2020 was always going to be viewed by some as a referendum on who was more responsible for the Patriots' success, Brady or Bill Belichick. Former Pats WR Danny Amendola suggested TB12 was the main reason.

www.nfl.com

Dion Lewis

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Nate Solder

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Gronk

Complexity of Gronk situation reflects bigger issues facing Patriots

At some point, Rob Gronkowski has to articulate what the endgame is. Because what we’ve got now is a wildcat strike being carried out by a guy who is wavering about continuing to play because he’s A) concerned about his long-term health, B) unfairly compensated or C) weary of the stifling...

www.nbcsports.com

Chris Long

Chris Long says he won't re-sign with Patriots so he can be 'the player I was before'

Long’s one year in New England ended with a Super Bowl ring.

www.sbnation.com

Cassius Marsh

Former Patriots Linebacker Slams Bill Belichick, Says Team Treats 'Players Like Crap'

A former New England Patriots linebacker had some revealing things to say about Bill Belichick and the culture he had to deal with in Boston

www.awesemo.com

My God! What a horrible coach! Putting winning above treating players nicely.

Please do a five-minute search for quotes with BB taking all or even any credit. I don't believe I ever saw him taking credit for a win. If players don't like the media giving BB the credit, their bitch is with the the media, not with Belichick.

But look through all those links you provided and tell us which players besides Samuel say BB wasn't a good coach.

Again, you continue to say that BB isn't a great coach and to back up your nonsense you give us links to players saying Belichick was a hard negotiator and Belichick was strict and Belichick was hard to work for.

If you weren't so mired and drowning in hate because he allowed our former QB to move on, you might be saying those quotes not only have nothing to do with his coaching abilities but actually are among the very reasons why he is a good coach.

Is BB a hard negotiator? Yes, and it helps him build better teams. He is ruthless in negotiations and cold-blooded in cutting players when the end of their time in coming. No doubt. But rarely does he get into cap hell and flounder with dead money like so money coaches who pay players with their hearts and emotions rather than business sense.

Is he strict? Yes, very much so. Amendola and Adalius Thomas and so many others hated that and still do. But is a strict coach a bad coach? Do you like Rex Ryan, the ultimate players coach? All these bitching guys evidently preferred being treated nicely to winning. Fine. Bitch away. But it doesn't make Belichick a bad coach.

Is he hard to work for? Undoubtably. Players don't get to freelance. Their first job is doing what it takes to win, not to build up their stats and only do the things they like to do. My God! What a horrible coach! Putting winning above treating players nicely.

 

[Mazz22]

My God! What a horrible coach! Putting winning above treating players nicely.

Please do a five-minute search for quotes with BB taking all or even any credit. I don't believe I ever saw him taking credit for a win. If players don't like the media giving BB the credit, their bitch is with the the media, not with Belichick.

But look through all those links you provided and tell us which players besides Samuel say BB wasn't a good coach.

Again, you continue to say that BB isn't a great coach and to back up your nonsense you give us links to players saying Belichick was a hard negotiator and Belichick was strict and Belichick was hard to work for.

If you weren't so mired and drowning in hate because he allowed our former QB to move on, you might be saying those quotes not only have nothing to do with his coaching abilities but actually are among the very reasons why he is a good coach.

Is BB a hard negotiator? Yes, and it helps him build better teams. He is ruthless in negotiations and cold-blooded in cutting players when the end of their time in coming. No doubt.

Is he strict? Amendola and Adalius Thomas and so many others hated that and still do. But is a strict coach a bad coach? Do you like Rex Ryan, the ultimate players coach?

Is he hard to work for? Undoubtably. Players don't get to freelance. Their first job is doing what it takes to win, not to build up their stats and only do the things they like to do. My God! What a horrible coach! Putting winning above treating players nicely.

Chevs asked for players and I provided them. I never said Bill was a bad coach ever. Average GM IMO but great coach.

I agree with everything else you said. It is an ego game. Players/coaches all have them.

 

[Roberto71]

Bill has gone out of his way several times after winning superbowls praising the players.

This is a silly narrative.

It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. At every hands turn for every success, he gives the praise solely to the players. Time and time again he says they're the ones who catch, throw, tackle, kick etc. Whenever they lose or fail, he says it's on him as he didn't coach them to win the game etc.

This is getting tiresome.

 

[3 Point Stan]

It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. At every hands turn for every success, he gives the praise solely to the players. Time and time again he says they're the lens who catch, throw, tackle, kick etc. Whenever they lose or fail, he says it's on him as he didn't coach them to win the game etc.

This is getting tiresome.

Getting?

 

[Undertaker #59*]

Agreed.

Please return this thread to the 2021 Patriots.

Bitter former players have no place here.

 

[Big/Sky/Fly]

Agreed.

Please return this thread to the 2021 Patriots.

Bitter former players have no place here.

I should have never made the snake grow/derail (railroad speak).

My bad.

And no, it's not an erection thing either. ...not for this topic anyway.

 

[imapig]

Agreed.

Please return this thread to the 2021 Patriots.

Bitter former players have no place here.

Does that include Tom Brady? ️

 

[Darth Despot]

Does that include Tom Brady? ️

Especially

 

[Roberto71]

Judon has certainly settled in very quickly!


View: https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1433984283027312645?s=21

 

[DarnSyd]

Judon has certainly settled in very quickly!


View: https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1433984283027312645?s=21

Can he play first base?

 

[aloyouis]

I am going to get deep here because I think there is a much larger narrative going on here than just Bill is an average coach IMO. There are a lot of former players, especially defensive players who feel they got minimized during our championship years because Bill got all the credit for being a defensive guru and they were seen as just plug and play, system players. When I hear Asante talk that is what he is getting at and I think he is speaking for many players not just himself.

With Brady winning last year, many of them have started chirping because Brady with his success in Tampa has validated their stance that it was not ALL Bill. That it truly was the players. That is what Asante is really getting at IMO. Many of the players feel slighted especially from the 00s teams and they feel this is their time to highlight it was the players that were winning those years not the coaches. Again, JMO but I think that is the the deeper sentiment being expressed.

“Many players”

You OFTEN pretend know what people are thinking. Hell, you pretend to know what Bill Belichick himself is thinking.

ASSANTE is an asshat. You finding a way to use him to bash BB (surprise!) adds little to the convo.

Teddy Bruschi says hello.

 

[Mazz22]

“Many players”

You OFTEN pretend know what people are thinking. Hell, you pretend to know what Bill Belichick himself is thinking.

ASSANTE is an asshat. You finding a way to use him to bash BB (surprise!) adds little to the convo.

Teddy Bruschi says hello.

Fyi - I included links above to many players who have had issues with Bill over the years ...

 

[aloyouis]

Fyi - I included links above to many players who have had issues with Bill over the years ...

I saw that as I read through the thread after I posted. I can spend five minutes on the Internet to find almost any point of view no matter how slanted or unjustified.

As you did.

Patriots play the Dolphins soon?