Super Bowl thought: Peyton is no Brady

Share this page

midgar8784 said:
Wait what? The colts got into fg range? The pats got into field goal range with no time left on the clock, and you are comparing that to manning being on the 30 and throwing a pick 6? Are you serious? Brady has 7 td's and 1 int in 4 superbowls, manning has 2 td's and 2 ints in 2 superbowls. Is this even a serious discussion? You need to go back and watch that carolina game if you thought the pats played perfect, if manning was watching the other team get those 80 yard bombs that carolina was getting he would have pissed himself.
Click to expand...

Midgar, the bottom line is that both Brady and Manning have had the ball with 3 minutes to go in a Super Bowl needing a TD to tie/take the lead. Both led TD drives...one just did it for the wrong team.
 
Michigan Dave said:
ROFLROFL

The Colts got into FG range, when they needed a TD, and ended up putting six on the wrong side of the scoreboard...and somehow that's more impressive than what Brady did in XXXVI? For comparison's sake, he took over with less time, no timeouts, and worse players around him and led the clutchest scoring drive in NFL history...while Peyton AFTER the pick six, with 3 TOs, butchered the clock in a manner that makes Tim Tebow and his mom weep.

Keep digging, chief.
Click to expand...

17>14

What was won both games = 0

Yeah he butchered the clock, I still had hope. Brady shoulda used more.
 
Manning is the reason that they lost the game last night.

Why do I say this? Last night was a very typical 2009/2010 Indianapolis Colts performance. It went down to the wire and the team needed Manning to do his magic in the 4th quarter.

The only difference between last night and the previous games is the interception for a touchdown.

Pundits can talk all they want about aggressive playcalling by the Saints, dropped passes, poor defense, but the plain fact of the matter is that the Colts did what they did all year long.


Keeping in mind that they mailed it in for the last two games,

This is the point differential in 6 of the 8 previous games going into the 4th quarter:

Week 8: -2
Week 9: +3
Week 10: -10
Week 11: +2
Week 12: -6
Week 15: -5

AFC Champ: +3
Last night: +1

The only large numbers are large deficits, they never had anything larger then a 3 point lead in any of those games. So last night was not uncharted waters for them.

IMO, the Saints didn't do anything that wasn't already done 7 times before last night, and the Colts (aside from Manning), didn't play any better or worse then they had all season.

The only difference last night, is that Manning turned the ball over while mounting the come back, and that is something he didn't do all season long.

All season he won the game in the 4th quarter and got all the credit, so for last night, he gets the blame.

It wasn't the defense, it wasn't coaching, it was his failure to do what HE had done all year long.
 
MAYHEM said:
The Colts were able to get it into FG range was my point. Other stats like possessions or defensive production in the Super Bowl I guess dont factor in. Brady did well, but gets too much credit when the team played perfect to win those games. When Brady had more responsibility, they lost.
Click to expand...

Oh yes that defense did so well in letting the panthers score 29 pts, Adam V did such a great job missing 2 FG's earlier in that same game, the only reason the patriots won the SB against the panthers is that brady played out of this world good in that game. And you bring credit into this, whenever the colts win oh it's all manning this manning that the other 52 players didn't do shit no it was manning throwing the ball, catching it himself blocking and tackling all manning, but when they lose nope manning is absolved of all faults and his teammates were the ones who failed, blame the defense they failed to stop the saints even though they held the highest scoring offense to 12 points below there season avg, blame wayne for that INT even though that pass should never have happened with collie being wide open in the slot oh no dear god anyone but manning is to blame for the colts losses. Face the facts buddy Peyton Manning CHOKED on the biggest stage in the biggest moment on the biggest drive of his life and THAT is something tom brady has never done.
 
Michigan Dave said:
Midgar, the bottom line is that both Brady and Manning have had the ball with 3 minutes to go in a Super Bowl needing a TD to tie/take the lead. Both led TD drives...one just did it for the wrong team.
Click to expand...


I just never got why playing bad and getting behind and having to come back is better than getting ahead and staying ahead?:coffee:
 
Its amazing that you guys hoist Brady up for that bad game. He threw 50 times for 14 points. Looked like a preview for '09.
 
MAYHEM said:
No I didnt. Hooterbot did. The fact is, Brady has never led the team to a Super Bowl win with a late TD.

No woulda coulda shoulda in 07 changes that.
Click to expand...

is within the final 3 minutes not late enough for you?
 
MAYHEM said:
Its amazing that you guys defend Brady for that horrible game. He threw 50 times for 14 points. Looked like a preview for '09.
Click to expand...

Unlike you, we're able to see the variables involved that affected that performance. In reality, that man probably shouldn't have even been playing that game.

Yet, despite that...when it counted, he came through. Just like Peyton did...for the Saints.
 
Hooterbot said:
Peyton Manning is a great quarterback, but what we learned tonight in Super Bowl XLIV is this: He’s no Tom Brady in the pressure moment on the game’s biggest stage.

Looking to lead the Colts back from a 24-17 fourth-quarter deficit against the Saints, Manning threw an interception that cornerback Tracy Porter returned for a touchdown, a key play in New Orleans' 31-17 upset victory.

It was a costly mistake, the kind of miscue that Brady, in his four Super Bowl appearances, never made in the critical fourth-quarter situation.

Even in the Patriots’ Super Bowl loss to the Giants, Brady had led a fourth-quarter drive for a touchdown before the defense couldn’t hold.

For all the stories that were written over the last week about which quarterback was the best of the decade – Brady or Manning – one aspect was overlooked: How Manning would lead the Colts in Super Bowl XLIV.

If you measure a quarterback by how he responds in the pressure moments on the game’s biggest stage, the debate ended with authority tonight.

More...
Click to expand...

I will never think of you as just a very,very nice pair of knockers again Bot.
 
MAYHEM said:
Its amazing that you guys hoist Brady up for that bad game. He threw 50 times for 14 points. Looked like a preview for '09.
Click to expand...

He drove his team down the field in crunch time and got a td, not a pick 6.

I'd love to see how manning would play getting his ass kicked all game.
 
MAYHEM said:
Its amazing that you guys hoist Brady up for that bad game. He threw 50 times for 14 points. Looked like a preview for '09.
Click to expand...

Brady has played in 4 Super Bowls compared to Manning's 2.

Brady has won 3 Super Bowls compared to Manning's 1.

What else is there to argue about here?
 
MAYHEM said:
Its amazing that you guys hoist Brady up for that bad game. He threw 50 times for 14 points. Looked like a preview for '09.
Click to expand...

Well some of those throws he was throwing away due to 5 guys wearing him on the play, he didnt have all day like manning had yesterday. Did manning actually get touched out there?
 
Spinal Tap said:
Brady has played in 4 Super Bowls compared to Manning's 2.

Brady has won 3 Super Bowls compared to Manning's 1.

What else is there to argue about here?
Click to expand...

Well Brady only got his team in to FG range without throwing a pick 6.

Manning had to get a TD and threw a pick 6.

:insane:
 
midgar8784 said:
Well some of those throws he was throwing away due to 5 guys wearing him on the play, he didnt have all day like manning had yesterday. Did manning actually get touched out there?
Click to expand...

I saw him get hit on the pick 6ROFL
 
midgar8784 said:
Well some of those throws he was throwing away due to 5 guys wearing him on the play, he didnt have all day like manning had yesterday. Did manning actually get touched out there?
Click to expand...

NOT ONCE. Which though somewhat frustrating was COMPLETELY The right call on WIlliam's part.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top