The Unofficial 2010 NFL Trading Deadline Thread, a/k/a "the Mankins Watch"

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"Tiiiiiiiick, tick tick tick tick!" ----- Chris Berman
 
"Tiiiiiiiick, tick tick tick tick!" ----- Chris Berman
 
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We had the reverb set too high.
 
only trade will be Stainsworth from Washington back to Tenn or to the Texans for a 2nd at best - per Florio on WEEI

Both mankins and the SD WR have not signed tenders and can not be moved
 
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said yesterday that there's a pretty good chance Albert Haynesworth will still be with the team after today's 4 p.m. Eastern trade deadline. But that doesn't mean Shanahan isn't open to a trade.

In fact, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that the Redskins, who have consistently asked for a second-round pick in exchange for Haynesworth, could be dropping their asking price today.

The Titans, Haynesworth's former team, appear to be the most likely to make a move to bring Haynesworth back.

Haynesworth has played in three games and missed three games this season, including the last two. Although the Redskins gave Haynesworth time off to deal with the death of his brother prior to Week Five, La Canfora reports that Haynesworth is "miffed" he didn't play in Week Six.
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Deadline Tuesday is here for the NFL, and with its passing we'll see a precipitous decline in much of the speculation that fills our pages here (we know, it's very sad).
One player still generating a scintilla of buzz is New England Patriots prodigal left guard Logan Mankins. On Friday, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter included Mankins on his list of trades that should -- but won't be -- made, sending the holdout O-lineman to the Chicago Bears for DT Tommie Harris and a fourth-round draft pick. We've previously speculated that the Dallas Cowboys might make a nice home for Mankins, since Jerry Jones is not afraid to pull the trigger on a big trade, nor is he stingy with paying for talent.
Regarding the trade with the Bears, Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times dismisses the idea for three primary reasons. First, the Bears probably want to retain their 2011 draft picks, as the memory of not picking until Round 3 in April is still fresh. Second, salary cap returning or not, the team has a lot of money already tied up in future deals for star players, and it's uncertain that they'd have the means or the will to do another big-money deal.
Lastly, Jensen isn't entirely convinced that the Pats are open to trading Mankins anyways. With hours remaining until the deadline, we'll find out soon if he's right.
 
chevss454 said:
Deadline Tuesday is here for the NFL, and with its passing we'll see a precipitous decline in much of the speculation that fills our pages here (we know, it's very sad).
One player still generating a scintilla of buzz is New England Patriots prodigal left guard Logan Mankins. On Friday, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter included Mankins on his list of trades that should -- but won't be -- made, sending the holdout O-lineman to the Chicago Bears for DT Tommie Harris and a fourth-round draft pick. We've previously speculated that the Dallas Cowboys might make a nice home for Mankins, since Jerry Jones is not afraid to pull the trigger on a big trade, nor is he stingy with paying for talent.
Regarding the trade with the Bears, Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times dismisses the idea for three primary reasons. First, the Bears probably want to retain their 2011 draft picks, as the memory of not picking until Round 3 in April is still fresh. Second, salary cap returning or not, the team has a lot of money already tied up in future deals for star players, and it's uncertain that they'd have the means or the will to do another big-money deal.
Lastly, Jensen isn't entirely convinced that the Pats are open to trading Mankins anyways. With hours remaining until the deadline, we'll find out soon if he's right.

- Tim Kavanagh​



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That's why I've suggested Mankins for a 2012 1st from the Bears.
 
From ESPN:

The Bears are up against a tight Tuesday deadline to swing what’s sure to be a complicated deal if they plan to consummate a trade for New England Patriots guard Logan Mankins , who could potentially upgrade the club’s leaky offensive line. Given the 23 sacks taken by quarterback Jay Cutler in four-and-a-half games, which put him on pace for more than 80 this season, the Bears seriously need solutions. They’re just not likely to find them by Tuesday’s trade deadline, according to multiple personnel executives around the league, who identified some of the potential snags of a trade while questioning whether Mankins is actually worth what Chicago would have to give up to acquire him.

“What you’ve got to think about is [the fact] guards don’t carry that kind of value,” said one NFC North personnel executive. “You’ve also got to consider you’ve got a quarterback up there in New England [Tom Brady] that gets the ball out quickly. So is he a guy who makes an offensive line much better? Will he still be good on another o-line? Are you willing to pay that price for a guard? New England is not.”

It’s no secret the Bears kicked around the idea of making a move for Mankins ever since the restricted free-agent guard balked at signing New England’s $3.26 million tender. Otherwise, general manager Jerry Angelo wouldn’t be doing his due diligence when it comes to making sure Chicago fields a roster featuring the best talent available. ESPN NFL insider Adam Schefter floated the possibility of the Bears acquiring Mankins in exchange for defensive tackle Tommie Harris and a fourth-round pick, writing that “Chicago gets the help on the offensive line it needs, and New England gets [the] help on the defensive line it needs along with the fourth-round pick it gave up for wide receiver Deion Branch.” It’s believed the Patriots are looking to receive a first-round pick as compensation in a potential trade, and that Mankins seeks a deal averaging more than $8 million per season. Mankins’ agent, Frank Bauer, revealed to ESPNBoston.com that New England’s final offer to the guard is 20 percent lower than the deal signed by Saints’ guard Jahri Evans, a Pro Bowler, who signed a seven-year contract in May worth $56.7 million, which averages out to a little more than $8 million.

Based on that, the Bears would have to pay Mankins left-tackle money. “You’ve got to make a deal before you trade for him, otherwise he’s gone at the end of the year,” the NFC North executive said. “It doesn’t make sense to give up something for him and not have a deal. Then, you’re talking about paying tackle money to a guard. You can’t overpay a guard.”

An AFC personnel executive agreed, saying that actually getting a long-term deal done with Mankins would be the Bears’ biggest challenge. So Mankins’ contractual demands certainly decrease Chicago’s chances of landing him. It’s also well-documented that Angelo has indicated he’s exhausted the funds allotted by ownership to upgrade the talent. In structuring any potential new deal with Mankins, the Bears would need to strongly consider the effect the contract could have on the salary cap once a new collective bargaining agreement is implemented, another NFC executive said. Without knowing what the new cap could be, the Bears run the risk of signing Mankins to a deal that could potentially force them to unload salaries/talent in the future to stay within the confines of that new cap. The club will already have several hard choices to make in that arena next offseason.

Additionally, draft compensation is an issue. Each of the personnel executives believed a third-round pick (and possibility an additional conditional pick) would be the minimum needed for the Bears to acquire Mankins. Still, that’s probably not the route the club needs to go considering its past, which is rife with it essentially throwing away draft picks in trades. The Bears gave away two first-round picks and a third-rounder to acquire Cutler and a second-round pick for defensive end Gaines Adams.Prior to that, the Bears traded away three additional picks.

Based on comments made by coach Lovie Smith, the Bears aren’t seeking outside help to fix the offensive line’s myriad problems. Smith thinks the club may have found the best combination to protect Cutler during Sunday’s loss to Seattle. So help from Mankins likely isn’t on the way.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667079/upon-further-review-offensive-line-fix
 
Here's an outside the box thought ... from inside the Box as it where, but I digress:

NE wants Mankins back in the fold at LT.

We now return to our regularly scheduled fruitless speculation. :coffee:
 
I'm sure he can play LT. But, I just want to move on. I think we've passed the point of no return with him. Get him in for 6 weeks and the playoffs. Then move on. Re-up Light for a couple of years. Draft a g in 2/3 round. Use that money that was going to Moss and intended for Mankins to sign a couple free agents. Or, trade some picks for players who want a bigger contract but won't get one from current team. I don't want to franchise hime either. We tag him. He'd never report. We'd be duplicating this same process next year.
 
Box_O_Rocks said:
Here's an outside the box thought ... from inside the Box as it where, but I digress:

NE wants Mankins back in the fold at LT.

We now return to our regularly scheduled fruitless speculation. :coffee:
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I've seen nothing from Mankins to lead me to believe he'd be a better option than Vollmer.

F him.

Franchise him. Then allow him to negotiate his own deal with a package of picks we deem suitable in the off-season.
 
mikiemo83 said:
Both mankins and the SD WR have not signed tenders and can not be moved
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This is both a true statement and an incorrect one. Any trade NE puts together would most certainly have passed through Logan's camp, so him signing is not going to be a sticking point.

The bigger issues are the more obvious ones, trade compensation and contract value.
 
mikiemo83 said:
Both mankins and the SD WR have not signed tenders and can not be moved
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tehrick67 said:
this.
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:banghead: :donkeys: :banghead:

Look, every fan with any common sense knows that a player that is not signed cannot be traded. By the same token any fan with common sense knows that when talking about trading an unsigned player it would be a sign and trade deal

SSDD
 
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