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Roberto71 said:
Mind you don't drop the pen when signing them Jules......:coffee:

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Announcers don't even trot out the 'normally sure-handed Julian Edelman' line anymore.

Cause they know it's a total lie. :coffee:
 
TommyD420 said:
And I'll add to this Tim. 9-7's not going to make the playoffs in the AFC this year (I think the AFC West sends 3 this year, personally).

If Buffalo loses this game, not only are they 3 back in the division with 8 to play...meaning the division's out of reach, of course - but they're sitting at 4-4, 1-3 in the division, 1-4 in the conference.
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This may explain why they tried to play McCoy vs the Fins. They were not looking ahead to the Pats at all but looking at the WC situation and their abysmal conference record and realized the Fins game was a must win. They have 2 losses now to the Fins and Jets each which is what has torpedoed their season.
 
TommyD420 said:
**** it, I'll make the case if you'll seriously leave.

Bills made a lot of mistakes last week, and even though Miami tried to give the game away (and they really did), the Bills couldn't take advantage of it due to being so banged up.

If LeSean McCoy is even 80%, he poses a nightmare matchup for the Patriots. Not only is he a gifted runner, which will be even more obvious since the Patriots play almost exclusively sub packages due to lack of depth at linebacker, but his ability to catch the ball, and be the Bills best receiver, makes it even more of a nightmare.

The Patriots simply don't have a linebacker with the instincts to cover someone manned up on McCoy. Collins is fast, but his instincts kinda suck. Hightower tries hard, but he's simply not fast enough, McCoy absolutely shreds them.

And that's true of any year, but this year inparticular, McCoy is, to me, the MVP of the league to this point. Even when the Patriots held the Bills to 16 points in the first game, they still couldn't shut down McCoy.

Combine that with the fact that the Patriots can't generate a pass rush, and the fact that the Bills have a top-10 offensive line, and the fact that the Patriots struggle on third down and only have 9 takeaways on the season, that sets the Bills up perfectly for one of those 45 minute TOP games, ground and pound into submission.

Can the Patriots pass block? The Bills defensive line will be a real test, and the Bills young secondary has really gelled into a competent group.

Ryan Allen is trick-or-treat as a punter, and Stephen Gostkowski has become David Duval. The Patriots are coming off the worst special teams performance that I can remember in several years.

Back-to-back road games for the Patriots, and this one in the division. The Bills have talent and have a couple of quality wins on their resume.

Not only do the Bills have a real shot at winning, they should be favored in my mind.

That's the case. :coffee:
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MEH. That doesn't do much for me. I still don't see how the Bills can win. What you just put down on paper is a gross attempt to get me to leave. Not truff. If what you just typed is accurate, we wouldn't even be talking about this. Your statement that I made in bold might be the funniest. 6 pt favorite on the road? That's an easy bet.
 
Someone can't take a hint.
 
That's good. This should be your designated roll. The " Mickey the Dunce" thing seems to come to you naturally.
 
The New England Patriots (6-1) will get a chance to avenge their only loss of the season when they visit the Buffalo Bills (4-3) on Sunday as solid road favorites.
The Patriots have gone a perfect 3-0 straight up and against the spread since losing at home to the Bills without quarterback Tom Brady, who has been nothing short of outstanding in his return from a four-game suspension.
Point spread: The Patriots opened as 4.5-point favorites; the total was 47 early in the week, according to sportsbooks monitored by Odds Shark (line updates and matchup report).
NFL pick, via Odds Shark computer: 27.7-20.4 Patriots (NFL picks on every game)

Why the Patriots can cover the spread
New England is an unreal 11-1 SU and 9-2-1 against the spread in its last 12 trips to Buffalo, according to the Odds Shark NFL Database, and this time Brady will be there to go for the split of the regular-season series.
As much as Bills head coach Rex Ryan deserves credit for leading his team to a shutout victory on the road in the last meeting, the Patriots were playing a third-string rookie quarterback in Jacoby Brissett who was starting his second game. There is a big step up from him to backup Jimmy Garoppolo—who sat out with an injury—so imagine the giant leap to the future Hall of Famer Brady.

Why the Bills can cover the spread
Buffalo had the perfect game plan for New England without Brady, using a strong running game to control the clock and counting on quarterback Tyrod Taylor to make plays. Statistically, the Bills were not overly impressive offensively, but running back LeSean McCoy was effective, and they will need his presence again here in order keep the Patriots offense off the field.
McCoy is considered questionable with a hamstring injury and played last week in spite of it, which may have been one of the reasons the team lost. However, Buffalo has gone 6-0 SU and ATS in its last six games after losing as a favorite.

Smart pick
Monitor McCoy's status closely leading up to kickoff of this key AFC East matchup, as he has been a game-breaker at times this year when healthy. However, the odds of him being 100 percent are slim, and the Bills will not be able to keep up with New England if they rely solely on their passing game.
That will be the goal of the Patriots, who have won nine in a row with a 7-1-1 mark ATS when losing the previous game in a matchup. They will make it 10 straight with yet another win and cover at Buffalo and against Ryan.

Betting trends
The Patriots are 11-1 SU and 9-2-1 ATS in their last 12 games on the road against the Bills.
The Bills are 8-3 ATS in their last 11 games after an ATS loss.
The total has gone under in nine of the Bills' last 12 games in Week 8.
 
yackittysacks said:
MEH. That doesn't do much for me. I still don't see how the Bills can win. What you just put down on paper is a gross attempt to get me to leave. Not truff. If what you just typed is accurate, we wouldn't even be talking about this. Your statement that I made in bold might be the funniest. 6 pt favorite on the road? That's an easy bet.
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Everything I said is true. I don't set the lines.

I did leave some things out, but everything in there is totally true.
 
TommyD420 said:
Everything I said is true. I don't set the lines.

I did leave some things out, but everything in there is totally true.
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Well, then I would expect to see the Bills in the Super Bowl this Feb. And that aint happnin!
 
THe Bills are being unusually quiet. Not much from Rex this week, not sure how A Williams is doing, but neither he nor McCoy have practiced. Dareus will finally play, plus Shaq Lawson will have 2 weeks practice back from his surgery, so looking better on Defense. Luckily our LB'rs are 100% healthy.

Still not sure if we have anyone that can catch a pass, other than Clay, who will probably, and has been lately, used more often. Hopefully, the Bills O-Line got lambasted for the putrid play vs. Miami and will pick it back up this week so the Bills can get back to running the ball. Gillislee can be real good, if they commit to the run and use McCoy without running his hammy injury into the ground

Whoever said, up a few pages, that this could be low scoring in the 1st half, you're probably right.
 
Bill Belichick on Rex Ryan's comment that Sunday's game is critically important: "We play 16 games. ... This one is important because it's the next one."
 
HipKat said:
THe Bills are being unusually quiet. Not much from Rex this week, not sure how A Williams is doing, but neither he nor McCoy have practiced. Dareus will finally play, plus Shaq Lawson will have 2 weeks practice back from his surgery, so looking better on Defense. Luckily our LB'rs are 100% healthy.

Still not sure if we have anyone that can catch a pass, other than Clay, who will probably, and has been lately, used more often. Hopefully, the Bills O-Line got lambasted for the putrid play vs. Miami and will pick it back up this week so the Bills can get back to running the ball. Gillislee can be real good, if they commit to the run and use McCoy without running his hammy injury into the ground

Whoever said, up a few pages, that this could be low scoring in the 1st half, you're probably right.
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Maybe Rex is starting to understand that attempting to fire his team up with fightin' words is not going to work most of the time. He knows he has a pretty good team and has a chance this time, despite the presence of Brady, so maybe he will stay quiet, but more likely he is just going to wait until closer to game time and then do what he does. Dude sees a microphone and goes batshit.

Honestly, I'm not sure if any team has done a lot of mouthing off about the Patriots and won the game. It's generally not a good idea to do that to a team that can't trash talk back and is thankful for the extra motivation.

BTW, I don't know who will likely play if Aaron Williams isn't out there, but if I were Rex I wouldn't rush him back. He is one of those guys that Brady has beaten like a rented mule on a regular basis for the last few years. Certain guys he just kills like, for instance, Troy Polamalu.

This isn't going to be much like the game in Foxboro, which doesn't mean the Bills have zero chance, but they are going to have to play a perfect game on D and have no turnovers on offense. If McCoy is limited then your odds aren't good at all.
 
Hawg73 said:
Maybe Rex is starting to understand that attempting to fire his team up with fightin' words is not going to work most of the time. He knows he has a pretty good team and has a chance this time, despite the presence of Brady, so maybe he will stay quiet, but more likely he is just going to wait until closer to game time and then do what he does. Dude sees a microphone and goes batshit.

Honestly, I'm not sure if any team has done a lot of mouthing off about the Patriots and won the game. It's generally not a good idea to do that to a team that can't trash talk back and is thankful for the extra motivation.

BTW, I don't know who will likely play if Aaron Williams isn't out there, but if I were Rex I wouldn't rush him back. He is one of those guys that Brady has beaten like a rented mule on a regular basis for the last few years. Certain guys he just kills like, for instance, Troy Polamalu.

This isn't going to be much like the game in Foxboro, which doesn't mean the Bills have zero chance, but they are going to have to play a perfect game on D and have no turnovers on offense. If McCoy is limited then your odds aren't good at all.
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McCoy hasn't practiced yet, so unless he hits the field today, he's out.


They would be smart to sit him so he is healthy for a game they have a better chance of actually winning.
 
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