10 Sports Truths

[Michigan Dave]

I tend to agree with Midgar that MD is putting a little too much on Tom's mobility.

The OL got beaten to shit that today. Brady wasn't as able to move around as normal. But he wasn't all that mobile against SD, either. The difference: He had all kinds of time to stand in the pocket. Go back and watch the highlights of that game.

Conclusion: The OL was a bigger culprit than Brady's injury.

Let me preface this with a giant F*** YOU for making me YouTube this. My afternoon is now shot.

Anyways, here's a play I've heard TB discuss before. Notice the alignment on the wide side of the field. We have numbers, and they're rushing two. The protection there should force the end outside (Kaczur does...albeit poorly) and the tackle should be forced inside, creating a de facto "sliding pocket" for TB to slide over into, step up, and complete the throw. Instead, he just can't get over. We've seen him move here time and time again, but instead he just tries to make the throw in the face of seeing Hochstein get beat inside. If he slides over, now Hochstein can reposition because the tackle is now overpursuing and has to cut back, he gets an extra 1/2 second (ignore the man Kaczur blocks out, he's free, but not relevant to get the throw off from that sliding pocket) because even if he stays beat, Hochstein is in the way and TB can get it off.

It's these things we see when watching and say "damn, the QB didn't have a shot." David Carr never could see this. TB feasts on that, and couldn't do what he does. It made a difference.

 

[HomelessJoe]

I didnt discredit anything. I didnt say anyone was even wrong. Why are you trying to start up something thats not even there. God no wonder there is so much drama on this board. We are talking football, I didnt say my way was the only way, I said how I view it. I dont like to use excuses, injuries, the refs, whatever, I dont like doing that, because at that point, nobody can just freaking lose anymore without an excuse. I just said, I dont think one player can be the cause of a loss. Jesus!!!!

i read this post in napoleon dynamite's voice lol

 

[DarrylStingley]

Let me preface this with a giant F*** YOU for making me YouTube this. My afternoon is now shot.

Anyways, here's a play I've heard TB discuss before. Notice the alignment on the wide side of the field. We have numbers, and they're rushing two. The protection there should force the end outside (Kaczur does...albeit poorly) and the tackle should be forced inside, creating a de facto "sliding pocket" for TB to slide over into, step up, and complete the throw. Instead, he just can't get over. We've seen him move here time and time again, but instead he just tries to make the throw in the face of seeing Hochstein get beat inside. If he slides over, now Hochstein can reposition because the tackle is now overpursuing and has to cut back, he gets an extra 1/2 second (ignore the man Kaczur blocks out, he's free, but not relevant to get the throw off from that sliding pocket) because even if he stays beat, Hochstein is in the way and TB can get it off.

It's these things we see when watching and say "damn, the QB didn't have a shot." David Carr never could see this. TB feasts on that, and couldn't do what he does. It made a difference.

More kudos.

Awesome analysis.

Worth the price of admission right there.

Questions, Brady friend:

1. What was the injury?

2. When did it happen?

3. Is it entirely healed?

4. If it happened in first playoff game, why was it not a factor against SD? Just the fact that the line did such a better job?

Looking forward to your answers.

 

[DarrylStingley]

10. SOX PLANET RULES oke:

Maybe it does, but I'm a Boston sports fan, and if I am going to list anything having to do with Boston sports, I can't see leaving out Sox stuff because there's some other website that deals with the Sox.

I still think we should have a separate Boston sports forum on Pats Planet. That way, we could discuss Boston sports with people who post here and it would not clutter up the main board.

 

[Darth Despot]

1. Players today are bigger, stronger, faster and play a more exciting game. The good old days were not better.
2. Flying Elvis = 3 SB wins, Pat Patriot looks like he's taking a dump in the woods Elvis = SUPERIOR
3. Dan Shaugnessy sucks sweaty ass
4. Soccer will grow in the US but won't be big 3 in my lifetime, because the best level is not played here
5. Newspapers are dead, I miss them, but they are dead.
6. ESPN is not as bad as everyone screams about. It's national, they won't always love your team. Quit being a parochial baby.
7. Ben Dreith is the Anti-Christ, Raider fans can kiss my ass forever.
8. Vinitraitor is a bigger douche than Damon
9. Chistiano Ronaldo is in fact a douchnozzle
10. D1 College football is the only college sport without a tournement to decide a champion on the field. There is no logical reason for this and I'll never fully embrace the sport until it's fixed.

 

[Michigan Dave]

More kudos.

Awesome analysis.

Worth the price of admission right there.

Questions, Brady friend:

1. What was the injury?

2. When did it happen?

3. Is it entirely healed?

4. If it happened in first playoff game, why was it not a factor against SD? Just the fact that the line did such a better job?

Looking forward to your answers.

It is entirely healed. It happened in the San Diego game and was a factor, although being that it was freezing cold, I don't think it would be as much. Can't specifically say unless it's come out, because I won't be that guy, but boot+mobility issues= pretty spot on inference can be drawn. It was still lingering, albeit not a whole lot, at the onset of camp last year.

 

[DarrylStingley]

It is entirely healed. It happened in the San Diego game and was a factor, although being that it was freezing cold, I don't think it would be as much. Can't specifically say unless it's come out, because I won't be that guy, but boot+mobility issues= pretty spot on inference can be drawn. It was still lingering, albeit not a whole lot, at the onset of camp last year.

Good to know that we don't have to worry about that old injury.

Do you think Tom is fully good to go now? IE, the knee injury shouldn't impact him much?

 

[Costanza]

i read this post in napoleon dynamite's voice lol

0. M. G. ROFL


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[Michigan Dave]

Maybe it does, but I'm a Boston sports fan, and if I am going to list anything having to do with Boston sports, I can't see leaving out Sox stuff because there's some other website that deals with the Sox.

I still think we should have a separate Boston sports forum on Pats Planet. That way, we could discuss Boston sports with people who post here and it would not clutter up the main board.

I think that there are many OT threads here anyways. What's wrong with posting about it here? Honestly, I don't even use the sub-forums on this board, let alone go to a completely separate one. I enjoy reading DS's takes on the other teams, OSU's takes on college football, the NFL talk, and the OT talk here. There's always the option not to read/comment on a thread. I ignore quite a bit of threads. It works out OK.

 

[Jaric]

Hey MD, can you drop a line to Tom telling to get that damn shoulder fixed?

 

[midgar8784]

It is entirely healed. It happened in the San Diego game and was a factor, although being that it was freezing cold, I don't think it would be as much. Can't specifically say unless it's come out, because I won't be that guy, but boot+mobility issues= pretty spot on inference can be drawn. It was still lingering, albeit not a whole lot, at the onset of camp last year.

Do you think his knee will be an issue from a standpoint of giving his issues after games or swelling. I know you are doctor MD, but do you think from a mental capacity this will cause some friction with how he moves around. From what I have seen from this injury with other players, it does not seem to affect them after they come back. Rivers, palmer, mcnabb, all seem to jump right back with no lingering affects.

 

[Michigan Dave]

Hey MD, can you drop a line to Tom telling to get that damn shoulder fixed?

Hey, it was proper F*CKED in 2002.

 

[Muse]

Hey MD, can you drop a line to Tom telling to get that damn shoulder fixed?

why would it bother a Colt fan?

oh wait you want to win a game from us fair and square gotcha

 

[Jaric]

Hey, it was proper F*CKED in 2002.

Is he strapped for cash or something? Go see a doctor!

Also, "proper" f*cked?

 

[Michigan Dave]

Do you think his knee will be an issue from a standpoint of giving his issues after games or swelling. I know you are doctor MD, but do you think from a mental capacity this will cause some friction with how he moves around. From what I have seen from this injury with other players, it does not seem to affect them after they come back. Rivers, palmer, mcnabb, all seem to jump right back with no lingering affects.

I have no idea. Physically, it's supposed to be fine I guess. My concern would be a subconscious fear of being re-injured, so only game action can tell. He seems to think it's fine so that's all I can say. Medical stuff ain't my wheelhouse.

 

[midgar8784]

Hey, it was proper F*CKED in 2002.

Wasn't that more of a clean out surgery he had on it? I love on espn, when brady said that his arm gets sore when he first starts throwing a lot, they had it blasted everywhere that he had a sore arm. he says this every year. lmao.

 

[Jaric]

why would it bother a Colt fan?

oh wait you want to win a game from us fair and square gotcha

I'm just concerned. Poor bastards been playing for years with a gimped shoulder.

 

[midgar8784]

I have no idea. Physically, it's supposed to be fine I guess. My concern would be a subconscious fear of being re-injured, so only game action can tell. He seems to think it's fine so that's all I can say. Medical stuff ain't my wheelhouse.

Well on that, I would hope brady is a bit better mentally at overcoming fear of an injury than like rivers would be. I would hope brady is a bit more mentally tough.

 

[Muse]

I'm just concerned. Poor bastards been playing for years with a gimped shoulder.

your concern? how cute

:kisss:

 

[Michigan Dave]

Well on that, I would hope brady is a bit better mentally at overcoming fear of an injury than like rivers would be. I would hope brady is a bit more mentally tough.

I don't know if it's something you can control. I've not ever had an injury like that. I've been concussed, had my chin blown up so many times I had to have plastic surgery to keep it together, and shredded an ankle to the point of no return. But, to be in that spot with that kind of injury...I don't know if it's something you would be thinking about or if it's just a reflex that develops. Granted, I can't understand what he thinks about or does in the pocket becaue him as a QB and me as a QB are quite different. I'm thinking about the juggs on the hotties, how sweet I look with my UnderArmor and visor, and how much beers I'll drink to ease the pain of getting hit so much. He just wins Super Bowls.