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In 2014 Goodell stated ZERO TOLERANCE for domestic violence, mandatory 6-game suspension.

Sure, Roger.

Josh got suspended one game for a 2015 incident with his wife. The problem is it is documented that the police were at his home two days in a row, that there was evidence of injury, though slight. But also documented by the police in their report is the fact that wife, or ex-wife now, stated at least 20 other incidents going back to 2009, while she was pregnant.

Roger & Co. got some social media flak when this became public yesterday or the day before. So they issued a blanket statement saying that because ex-wife and police personnel wouldn't talk to the NFL's "investigators" they had no choice but to deem no credible evidence.

Twenty incidents reported in a police report. Police officer stated in report that he believed the wife.

But the conundrum for me is if the NFL/Goodell has stated the domestic violence policy is now SIX GAMES, and it has been proven that at least in 2015 there was an incident in which police were involved and for which ex-wife got a restraining order, whether she dropped the charges or not, why did the NFL not follow its own policy?

ONE GAME.

ONE ****ING GAME.

Mara is a POS.

Which brings me back, again, to what "credible" evidence there was to suspend Brady. I hope Goodell gets two bullets in his head, one in each eye. **** him.
 
Really seems like Goodell plays favorites with his NY teams and Jerrah when he imposes his own brand of industrial justice. 1 game is ridiculously light for this guy based on his history.
 
so if people don't cooperate, the player can't be suspended? that's new. ummmmm...rog? tb cooperated, you had no evidence and no witnesses to back your accusations on anyone but the team and tb paid dearly.
hypocrite.
 
so if people don't cooperate, the player can't be suspended? that's new. ummmmm...rog? tb cooperated, you had no evidence and no witnesses to back your accusations on anyone but the team and tb paid dearly.
hypocrite.

His obvious canned answer is "well she's not in the union, we have no power over her"

But, what PFL said.

Cheers, BostonTim

PS all you creatives we need (I don't see one - do we have one?) a good nasty emoticon for Roger ala Kensil.
 
Tricia Nixx ‏<s>@</s>P_Nixx <small class="time"> 3h3 hours ago </small> Roger Goodell issues white justice: 1 game suspension for bald, white boy Josh Brown. Hitting women is okay if ur white, right Roger?

Jason Mark Ruel ‏<s>@</s>jaruel37 <small class="time"> 4h4 hours ago </small> Great job commissioner Goodell. A man of integrity that keeps his word.


marsha burgess ‏<s>@</s>maburg512 <small class="time"> 7h7 hours ago </small>
Goodell hands down harsher punishment for smoking a "joint" than for knocking a woman unconscious <s>#</s>PrioritiesRoger


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/josh-brown-suspension_us_57b772e4e4b0b51733a38bf6?section=


Al Sacco ‏<s>@</s>AlSacco49 <small class="time"> 21h21 hours ago </small>
Will be huge public backlash on lack of discipline for Josh Brown as well. <s>#</s>Giants & Goodell should be held accountable. Disturbing stuff.

If the reports are true, I can't fathom how Josh Brown only gets a 1-game suspension. Does Goodell think the details won't get leaked?

Sacco covers the 49ers

Boston Sports Brew ‏<s>@</s>BosSportsBrew <small class="time"> Aug 19 </small> Josh Brown gets one game for a domestic violence arrest in May of 2015? Goodell really is scum. Also, shame on Giants. He should be cut.


Theresa ‏<s>@</s>PatsFanGarb <small class="time"> Aug 17 </small> So what did Josh Brown do? Why such a secret? Oh..thats right...Mara and Goodell are buds.


Matt Miller Verified account ‏<s>@</s>nfldraftscout <small class="time"> 20h20 hours ago </small>
How Le'Veon Bell got three games and Josh Brown got one is why the NFL's suspension policy is a joke.

TMZ Sports ‏<s>@</s>TMZ_Sports <small class="time"> 1h1 hour ago </small> NFL Officials -- We Investigated Josh Brown for 10 Months ... Wife Wouldn't Comply


http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/19/nfl-o...josh-brown-for-10-months-wife-wouldnt-comply/

Sporting News Verified account ‏<s>@</s>sportingnews <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small> Josh Brown reportedly beat his wife repeatedly. So why won't the Giants find a new kicker? http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/giants-josh-brown-domestic-violence-suspension-details-kicker/5qcp644kgltt1ukh4r4iypqyw …


Andrew Brandt Verified account ‏<s>@</s>AndrewBrandt <small class="time"> 20h20 hours ago </small>
NFL says it couldn't discipline Josh Brown more because it couldn't interview his wife. This after a year investigation? And new DV policy?


mike freeman Verified account ‏<s>@</s>mikefreemanNFL <small class="time"> 20h20 hours ago </small> The problem: 1. NFL gives credibility to a guy who recanted PED story. 2. Gives minimal credibility to wife of Josh Brown in police report.


mike freeman Verified account ‏<s>@</s>mikefreemanNFL <small class="time"> Aug 18 </small> Really, ugly stuff. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/josh-brown-ex-wife-told-police-20-physical-incidents-article-1.2757186?utm_content=buffer952e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNSports+Twitter …
 
Ray Rice backlash coming all over again for Rog. The women's DV groups are sharpening their pitch forks right now.
 
I'm shocked, shocked, that ol Rog's discipline decisions are arbitrary and capricious.

This ruling seems just one more bit of evidence to support the idea that the primary factor that determines the degree of punishment is how good the team is.

I posted this article in the Al-Jazeera thread, but it's worth noting it again.

A pretty clear pattern is emerging in Roger Goodell's witch hunts

By Matthew Rewinski  @SomeCallMeGoose on Aug 16, 2016, 7:00p 62

Everyone that Roger Goodell and the NFL are going after based on flimsy evidence and hearsay has one obvious connection.

Come on, NFL, when people call you the "No Fun League", they're talking about players not being able to do things like write your dad's name on your eye black, not because the league is suspending all the good players!

This week, the NFL dished out an ultimatum to Steelers linebacker James Harrison and Packers linebackers Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers, along with free agent and ex-Packer Mike Neal, who are all name-dropped in the since-recanted Al-Jazeera report that accuses them of using steroids - cooperate with the league's investigation, or get suspended.

Here's the league's threat to James, Clay, Julius, and Mike, from ESPN:


"For those players whose interviews do not take place on or before August 25th, or who fail meaningfully to participate in or otherwise obstruct the interview, their actions will constitute conduct detrimental and they will be suspended, separate and apart from any possible future determination that they violated the steroid policy. The suspension for each such player will begin on Friday, August 26th and will continue until he has fully participated in an interview with league investigators, after which the Commissioner will determine whether and when the suspension should be lifted."​

Sound familiar? Come in and prove to the league that you're innocent - which, as many people realized during previous scandals like Bountygate and Deflategate, is forcing players to prove a negative - or you'll be suspended for "conduct detrimental to the league", in addition to whatever it is that you actually might have done.

As our fearless leader Rich Hill noted this morning, here's the deal:

"NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is taking the power granted to him under Article 46 of the collective bargaining agreement (CBA) and shoving it down the players' throats."​

Let's put it this way: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, odds are it's a duck. Every team caught in the crosshairs of these "scandals", like the Packers are now, that turns into a giant cluster...er, mess and huge punishments has one glaringly obvious trait that they all share.

They own their divisions.


Let's run through a few of these to refresh your memory:

Spygate (2007) - New England had won three of the previous six Super Bowls and received the harshest punishment in NFL history (at the time).

Ben Roethlisberger and the Pittsburgh Steelers (2010) - Ben Roethlisberger was accused of sexual assault. Despite never actually being charged with a crime, Big Ben got suspended for six games, which eventually got reduced to four. Ever since Roethlisberger took over at quarterback for the Steelers, the team's win-loss record looked like this:

2004: 15-1

2005: 11-5 (and they won the Super Bowl)

2006: 8-8

2007: 10-6

2008: 12-4 (and they won their second Super Bowl in four years)

2009: 9-7

Bountygate (2012) - In a case where most of the "leaks" turned out to be either completely wrong, or half-truths at best, Roger Goodell suspended head coach Sean Payton for a whole season, suspended defensive coordinator Gregg Williams "indefinitely", and suspended Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, and Will Smith, and the league took the Saints' 2012 and 2013 second-round picks. Since the 2009 season, when New Orleans won the Super Bowl, the Saints had gone 13-3 in '09, 11-5 in 2010, and 13-3 in 2011.

DeflateGate (2015) - Ah, screw it, you guys know how this goes. Another historic punishment, four games for Brady, no first-round draft pick in 2016, and no fourth-round pick in 2017.

And here we are, with three of the four guys accused in the Al-Jazeera report - which again, has been retracted - all being part of the Green Bay Packers, who are basically as much of an automatic lock to win their division as the Patriots are in the AFC East. Green Bay, since 2007, has only had two seasons when they didn't rack up double-digit wins.

But just saying that Goodell is targeting dominant teams in the name of parity sounds like a cranky sorority girl excuse - until you look at how he's punished teams that aren't perennial Super Bowl picks.

Like the Atlanta Falcons, who got caught red-handed last year and admitted to piping fake crowd noise into the Georgia Dome, and admitted they've been doing it for years. Pretty bad, right? Their punishment? Atlanta lost a fifth-round pick and was fined $350,000, to which the Falcons probably said "Fine, whatever", and then went to Chick-Fil-A for lunch.

Or how about the New York Jets, when owner Woody Johnson hopped on a microphone and said he "would love to have Darrelle (Revis) back" and Revis was still on the Patriots, which is quite literally, the definition of tampering? A $100,000 fine.

What about the San Diego Chargers, who got accused of using Stickum on their receiver's gloves in 2012 and then didn't give the alleged "Stickum towels" to the NFL when the league said to hand them over? Despite basically getting rid of the evidence, the NFL cleared the Chargers of any wrongdoing and fined them $20,000 for "not following the instructions of an official". What's $20,000 good for in San Diego? Two months of rent, maybe?

Ooooh, you probably forgot about this one - in 2009, the Denver Broncos got caught videotaping a San Francisco 49ers walkthrough practice. The NFL really brought the hammer down on this one - $50,000 fines for the Broncos and for head coach Josh McDaniels.

And just this year, the Baltimore Ravens got caught red-handed having some of their players practicing in helmets and pads during rookie minicamp, which the CBA specifically says you can't do. The Baltimore Sun lamented that the NFL "...came down hard on the Ravens"...by fining the team and John Harbaugh and taking away three OTA practices.

You get the idea by now.

If you're a powerhouse football team that basically stomps your division almost every year, and Roger Goodell and the NFL see a chance to land a gut-punch, they're going for it. And they're not going to let bad information, logic, reports that turn out to be false or flimsy at best, or even sworn testimony get in the way.

And every time it happens, 31 other teams will laugh and clap and support Goodell's decision, because a loss for a contender makes their odds of winning better.

Sometimes, the simplest answer to a question really is the best one.

Guess everyone should have listened to the Steelers back in 2011 after all.

The Giants were 6-10 last year.

Who wants to bet that if they were 12-4 Brown would have gotten the full six games.
 
Great minds, and all: http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=72022&page=8

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ils-tough-domestic-violence-article-1.2758613


BUFFALO — Roger Goodell didn’t treat Ray Rice’s domestic violence case seriously until video of Rice pummeling his then-fianceé reached the public.

So who is really surprised by the NFL giving Josh Brown only a one-game suspension for his May 2015 domestic violence arrest, calling it a “finding” based on “the evidence of his one incident as presented in the police report,” even though the Daily News reported that Brown’s now ex-wife told authorities of more than 20 physical incidents involving her former husband?

The NFL has a funny way of prioritizing domestic violence prevention: Tom Brady allegedly deflates a football and gets suspended four games, come hell or high water.

Brown gets arrested for a domestic violence incident, has his now ex-wife document countless incidents, and the end result is a slap on the wrist that Brown on Thursday tried to make sound like a crime and injustice against him and humanity.

Please.

It is a slippery slope, of course, to grant Goodell and the NFL the type of authority that would allow the league to ban a player for allegedly committing a crime when he has not been charged. Domestic violence, however, is supposed to be — or at least should be — a zero tolerance issue.

The NFL’s excuse for imposing only a one-game suspension seems to be that the NFL’s investigators had “insufficient information to corroborate prior allegations” because Brown’s ex-wife “declined to speak with us.”

But if that is the NFL’s excuse, then we have a bridge to sell Goodell & Co., because if we know anything about domestic violence and its frightening repercussions, it is that victims are easily silenced — or at least often worried about the consequences of reporting such allegations or facts.

Goodell acknowledged his mistake on his original suspension to Rice. But if this is his idea of getting tough against domestic violence cases, he’s got a long way to go.

Clearly, nothing was going to stop him from suspending Brady because, well, he wanted to. Suddenly a refused interview limits the NFL’s power to enforce authority over violence against women?



Much more at link.
 
Come on people. Let's not over react to this minor transgression. It's not like he did something serious, like it being more probable than not, that he was generally aware of deflated footballs.

:coffee:
 
Come on people. Let's not over react to this minor transgression. It's not like he did something serious, like it being more probable than not, that he was generally aware of deflated footballs.

:coffee:

I mean, if he were completely exonerated by their investigation, he'd be getting fined 1 million dollars and the team would be losing draft pickS, amirite?
 
Obviously Goodell rewarded him for protecting the shield and being smart enough not to get caught on camera.



Yay Josh. :clap:

Meant in jest, no doubt but there might be some truth to it.

The wife isn't talking (allegedly) so without any charges, I'm surprised he's even getting a game.
 
Meant in jest, no doubt but there might be some truth to it.

The wife isn't talking (allegedly) so without any charges, I'm surprised he's even getting a game.

There are plenty of court records which others have found.
Goodell said DV would be a 6 game suspension so why 1 game? It would have been better if he weren't suspended at all bc now it points directly to the fact that Goodell plays favorites and issues punishments arbitrarily.
 
Ray Rice backlash coming all over again for Rog. The women's DV groups are sharpening their pitch forks right now.

It's gonna take a LOT of pink shit to make up for this one.

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There are plenty of court records which others have found.
Goodell said DV would be a 6 game suspension so why 1 game? It would have been better if he weren't suspended at all bc now it points directly to the fact that Goodell plays favorites and issues punishments arbitrarily.

Because kickers are 1/6th of a football player?
 
It's gonna take a LOT of pink shit to make up for this one.

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Because kickers are 1/6th of a football player?

Tell that to Vinatieri.

:coffee:
 
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