Teh Official Week 6 Pats vs Steelers Game Thread

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AnOldTroll said:
Congrats on the win and keeping a pretty talented 2nd and 3rd string offense under 20.
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Thanks, congrats on your moral victory, we also held Bell under 100 rushing, so now you have lost to Miami and us. Congrats.

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HSanders said:
who all were second and 3rd string?
i thought all you were missing "skill position starter wise" is roethlisberger.
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Oh you didnt hear? Yeah they pulled all their starters for this game. Brown and Bell are usually bench guys.

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AkPatsFan said:
With Ben, yes they are pretty talented but without him they are shit. And your HC is a moron wasting their timeouts like he did but it worked out great for the Pats.


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Not sure, I mean Miami and philly kicked their ass with Ben. Can't play the browns every week I guess.
 
AnOldTroll said:
Congrats on the win and keeping a pretty talented 2nd and 3rd string offense under 20.
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Tomlin is HORRIBLE. I counted at least FIVE bonehead calls by him. You had a chance in that game the way your team played and he blew it every way possible.
 
Bill really praising LG. He's right to single his ball security. That dude gets guys continually trying to bat that ball out of his hands yet he doesn't fumble.
 
Really great defense today especially in the red zone. Butler was a stud.
 
TommyD420 said:
Butler and Eugene Chung deserve game balls.

McCountry was really good too, for that matter.
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Yep. They did not give up an inch. Awesome red zone defense. Just suffocating even when we were up 11. They never relented. It was really good to see.
 
AnOldTroll said:
Congrats on the win and keeping a pretty talented 2nd and 3rd string offense under 20.
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Your offense isn't near the problem your defense is and Cam Heyward's return won't be enough to fix it.

But I'd be remiss if I didn't also mention how little we think of Mike Tomlin, your idiot HC who loves to huff and puff but offers little in the way of real football knowledge or true leadership. Now it seems BTSC finally agrees

This was supposed to be Mike Tomlin’s finest hour.
After all, the Steelers had all of the odds stacked against them and the team was going to play lights out after a horrific performance against the Miami Dolphins (who by the way, now look legitimate and will be much better than people think once their offensive line continues to play together). But no, not all. This turned into Mike Tomlin’s nadir moment. Now in his 10th season in the league, yesterday’s game against the New England Patriots was his worst coached game during his decade in Pittsburgh.
Okay, I get it; Landry Jones was at quarterback, the defense was missing Cam Heyward, Tom Brady historically does well against the Steelers, yada yada yada…that still does not excuse Tomlin’s coaching gaffes.
No, Tomlin’s worst moment wasn’t the 2013 season when the team started out 0-4 and also had a moment with Jacoby Jones on Thanksgiving night. No, it wasn’t the 2009 season when he promised to "unleash hell" during December, a month which would see the Steelers lose to a terrible Oakland Raiders team at the last minute and a then 1-11 Cleveland Browns team that saw Brady Quinn go 6 for 19 and 90 yards and still win. This season has been Tomlin’s worst because the expectations were high and the team’s performance has been inconsistent at best, even in the victories (if DeAngelo Hall does his job properly, that 4th and 1 to Antonio Brown in Week 1 is a completely different story). The Steelers have not looked like the Super Bowl contender that they were believed to be, and, in my opinion, the head coach is part of the problem, not the part of the solution.


First, the defense, which is supposedly Tomlin’s forte, continues to be a problem and will likely be the reason why the Steelers will be just an above average team instead of a consistent powerhouse contender like the Patriots. The defense continues to struggle without defensive end Cam Heyward and for the second consecutive week, a running back went well over 120 yards and two touchdowns against the hapless defense.
First, Jay Ajayi (who is looking sharp) and now old friend LeGarrette Blount. However, that isn’t even the biggest issue for the last two weeks. The 3rd down defense has been atrocious: the Dolphins went 7 for 14 in week 6 and the Patriots went 7 for 12, including the first five 3rd down chances of the game. The coach’s job is to put his players in opportunities to succeed. While no one will mistake this current Steelers defensive team to the 2008 version, the bad tackling, poor angles, and most of all, downright stupid penalties (including one by rookie Artie Burns yesterday and the countless ones by Mike Mitchell for most of the season) have to fall at the feet of the coaching staff.
Keith Butler, who had been a good soldier waiting in the wings behind Dick LeBeau for over a decade, looks outmatched at times and the lack of pressure on the opposing passer has been a serious problem all season. Tom Brady was hit just a few times, and Ryan Tannehill last week was hardly touched. If Butler can’t generate pressure with more creative tactics, it is Tomlin’s responsibility to replace him with someone else, like defensive line coach John Mitchell.


The off coverage on 3rd and short is now getting comically absurd but those defensive concepts have been a staple of the Steelers while Tomlin has been on the sidelines. Something needs to change here quickly. It worked for the Bills when they replaced Greg Roman with Anthony Lynn on offense. It might work for the Steelers but one thing is certain: the current method is clearly not working,and waiting for Bud Dupree to get healthy to try to save the Steelers defense is unfair to the second-year player and it is wishful thinking on the Steelers’ part.
The game management decisions are not so amusing and cute anymore. The head coach’s job during the game is to put his team in the best opportunity to win games by putting his players in the best opportunity to succeed on every play. Tomlin failed miserably yesterday with the horrendous replay challenge on the Rob Gronkowski catch, and by letting Chris Boswell try to kick a 54 -yard field goal while behind by 11, and after Boswell missed a 42-yard field goal earlier in the game (not to mention Landry Jones having to burn a timeout within the first five minutes of the 3rd quarter, a timeout that the team could have used in the 4th quarter).
The fact that the Steelers always seem to be just off on every play, and flat out unprepared against teams of lesser talent has been a staple criticism of Tomlin and thus far, he’s done nothing to dispel those criticisms. Tomlin can say his pithy and catchy remarks after games, but as far as the Steelers are concerned, right now, he is part of the problem as to why the Steelers are underachieving.
Until Tomlin changes his routines to help the Steelers best fulfill their potential, the Steelers will continue to rely (or over rely) on Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, and Le’Veon Bell to save them from the toothless defense and an overrated and consistently outmatched coaching staff (especially on the defensive side of the ball). I would rather see Tomlin say nothing quirky or clever if it means the Steelers will be a well-disciplined bunch who show up to play every game and quit squandering opportunities like they have for most of this season. If the Steelers still have dreams of making it to the Super Bowl, the coaching staff needs to fix themselves first, starting with the head coach.
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http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ajor-part-of-the-pittsburgh-steelers-problems

Can't wait for the comments to this article to flow.
 
From the Steelers Fan Forum. This thread is gold.

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/t...win-steelers-play-not-to-get-blown-out.15359/

Coaching lost this game. We thought the Patriots would go to TE all game like they normally do so they run and do screens then go to TE after halftime and we make "adjustments" They thought we'd run the ball and we run the ball. Good job, coaching. Game was over when Tomlin decided to receive in typical fashion. 3 and out and they get the ball at half. Field goals was never winning this game. Bell had a good game but running the ball was never winning this game. He runs for 5, holding, 1st and 15, runs for 5, 2nd and 10. Good job. Landry showed he had what it took to win this game. He had success when in shotgun/4 wide. Should have done that the whole game. Defense actually wasn't completely embarrassing.

Loss is on

A) Tomlin

B) Haley
 
Patriots71 said:
Thanks, congrats on your moral victory, we also held Bell under 100 rushing, so now you have lost to Miami and us. Congrats.

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Oh you didnt hear? Yeah they pulled all their starters for this game. Brown and Bell are usually bench guys.

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Not sure, I mean Miami and philly kicked their ass with Ben. Can't play the browns every week I guess.
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Those games were on the road, they always play better at home. I picked this game as a loss for the Pats but that was before Rothlisberger got hurt.

Anyhow, it's all moot and we're shuffling on to Buffalo. :toast:
 
Is it me, or does Pitt lead the league in guys going to the locker room mid game and then coming back out before the midway point in the 4th quarter?

Coates and Brown both go in and the idiot announcers make it seem like they are really hurt and both are back out there.

Roethlisberger does it at least 10 times a season.

Is it some "get the fans hyped up" type of BS?
 
I thought this game was practically a carbon copy of the Cincy game. It was right out of Patriots central casting.

Close first half with a small lead going into halftime and then putting the pedal down for a couple of quick scores in the 3rd and then nursing the lead and bleeding the clock down the rest of the way. We let Landry Jones get in a rhythm as we have so many 2nd tier QBs over the years and it almost appeared like he was doing it to us instead of the other way around. No sacks? No shit. Folks shouldn't think we can't pressure the pocket if that was how we wanted to play it.

Watching this team right now it almost appears like they could blow anybody out if they felt like it, but Bill just wants enough of a margin to get a W and move on to next week in a methodical way. He's keeping some bullets in the chamber, too. I believe it is important to Bill to not let the players get swelled heads halfway through the season by ripping teams by 30. Let's say that is his way to keep things in control and keep the end game in sight--- another trophy and nothing less.

I will say that it has been a long time since I've seen a Pittsburgh D that was so soft to run inside on. I know they were missing Heyward, but.....Jesus......Blount just shredded them and there were big holes where there used to be slivers.

They'll win a lot of games with just Bell and Brown dominating, but let's not be under the illusion that this is a good Steelers team. No way.

It was another day at the office. A mercilessly effective one.
 
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