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Mazz, if you think of the comparisons as Jones' play being similar to brady's play and not Jones is as good as Brady, it makes more sense.
Here's a link to a play breakdown by Evan Lazar recently posted to this thread but which you might have missed. Listen to the whole breakdown and tell me which NFL QB this most sounds like. While most draft analysts are focused on arm strength and athleticism (also not what makes Brady Brady), some are focusing on Jones' intangibles, use of shoulder and eye positioning. Please watch the clip. If nothing else it will at least show where some of us are coming from and why we are excited and think pocket passers aren't extinct.
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How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Jones was a too-scrawny kid who couldn't even get the recruiting website to notice him. So here's how he changed that.
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How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Jones was a too-scrawny kid who couldn't even get the recruiting website to notice him. So here's how he changed that.
theathletic.com
How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Mac Jones wasn't on anyone's radat.
It’s not difficult to understand why, as the sophomore quarterback at The Bolles School didn’t get enough playing time for college coaches to notice. Sure, Jones was on a very good seven-on-seven team in Jacksonville, Fla., and he made his way around to camps.
But six years before the New England Patriots took Jones with the No. 15 pick in the NFL Draft, the rail-thin, baby-faced teenager was anonymous on the recruiting circuit.
So he took control of his situation and sent a direct message to the Twitter account of Rivals, a site that covers college football recruiting. On the afternoon of March 12, 2015, just after school let out, Jones told them he was a 6-foot-2, 175-pounder — what, you’ve never exaggerated on the internet? — and was hoping Rivals would set up a profile to get him onto the recruiting map.
This wasn’t an uncommon tactic by any stretch of the imagination.
“We get a ton of them, honestly,” Woody Wommack of Rivals said. “The fact that someone replied to Mac is like an upset because we get tons of them.
“It’s like a running joke between the recruiting crew that anytime a college coach tweets anything — it could be a picture of his wife and kids like, ‘Happy Easter’ — and kids reply, ‘Hey, coach, check out my film.’ They try. A lot of kids try.”
Whoever was in charge of the Rivals account that day suggested Jones reach out to Wommack. The only problem?
“He doesn’t follow me back for some reason,” Jones wrote back.
Jones persisted. Wommack, the southeast recruiting analyst at the time, was at a seven-on-seven tournament a few weeks later when Jones spotted him and introduced himself. Wommack instantly warmed up to Jones’ infectious personality.
Shortly thereafter, Rivals invited Jones to its first camp, which hosted 100 quarterbacks as a way to get to know them, their recruiting stories and put them through comparable drills. Trevor Lawrence, a recruiting superstar since the eighth grade whom the Jacksonville Jaguars chose first in the NFL Draft on Thursday, was also at that camp.
“The reason Mac got invited (was) because we needed 100 quarterbacks,” Wommack said. “There aren’t 100 Power 5 quarterbacks between Florida and Georgia, but we need people to fill the event. So that’s why he got invited.”
Jones then got an offer from Kentucky after an impressive camp and became the full-time starter at Bolles as a junior when he also hit a growth spurt. His stock began to take off in spring 2016, a year after his Hail Mary DM.
Jones won the MVP award at a regional Rivals camp in Orlando, Fla., where 200 of the nation’s top recruits were rubbing shoulders. Then he talked his way into a second Rivals camp, and he excelled again.
But this was actually rare because premium recruits tend to spread out a little bit more.
“You usually only come to one of these camps,” Wommack said. “But Mac talked his way into a second one, then came and did so well that it was like, OK, I guess we have to invite Mac to our five-star challenge, which is our marquee event. It’s the 100 best players in the country, even though he was not at that point. He was a four-star, but it’s the five-star challenge. We’re trying to get the eight best quarterbacks in the country. Mac kind of forced his way into the conversation.”
He won the MVP there, too. A day later, Jones attended a quarterbacks-only camp, which featured Davis Mills — now a third-round pick of the Houston Texans — and won the MVP again.
“Mac was fiercely loyal to us from the get-go,” Wommack said. “He was around so much from that time until he left that he was almost like part of our crew of 15 people because he was at our events every other week, it seemed like. He went through a string where he won four or five MVPs.
“He was around so much that he felt like an employee or one of the people who was working the camps. He gets to know everybody, though. He’s inquisitive of how things work. He’s going to get to know the registration staff and the people handing out the T-shirts. He’s going to know their name. He’s also going to give you shit and keep you on your toes. He’s going to tease you.”
Then Jones set his focus on another marquee event. Rivals held a quarterback competition with the top players in the country, and Jones made it his sole priority — not just to win, but also to beat Lawrence.
It was Jones’ way of proving that he belonged in the conversation among the top quarterbacks in his class, and there was no better way to do it than to take down a generational prospect.
The competition involved a variety of throws into nets — 25 yards to the corner of the end zone, roll right and throw toward the sideline, roll left and do the same, and on and on. Each net had a tight window.
Jones was so serious about winning that he had a net to set up in his backyard. He practiced relentlessly, even noticing the importance of aiming slightly high to give the ball a more generous angle to sink the throw.
Of course, Jones crushed the final round against Lawrence and won the competition.
“It’s hard to make it into the nets, and he’s cranking them in there over and over again,” Wommack said.
Jones was always confident in himself even when that belief wasn’t reciprocated on the recruiting circuit. When he didn’t get any attention from coaches at Georgia’s camp, Jones playfully hollered for Wommack to get some good action shots of him. When Rivals ranked a quarterback ahead of him — pick any random player from any state — Jones would find his film and take a jab at Wommack for getting it wrong.
As Jones’ stock ascended, though, Alabama coach Nick Saban offered Jones a scholarship, and he committed before his senior year. Even that decision raised eyebrows because Jones would have to compete for playing time against Jalen Hurts and Tua Tagovailoa.
Jones had it all mapped out. He’d bide his time and eventually win the job, which is exactly how it all went down. He completed 77.4 percent of his passes last season for 4,500 yards, 41 touchdowns and four interceptions for the undefeated national champions, and the Patriots tabbed him as their quarterback of the future.
“When you get to know Mac,” Wommack said, “you’ll see he has this supreme confidence in himself.”
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Mac/sCam's razor: The polar opposite of the definition of Occam's razor.And "Cam " backwards is "Mac"
Gillette should be all over this...
How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Jones was a too-scrawny kid who couldn't even get the recruiting website to notice him. So here's how he changed that.
How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Mac Jones wasn't on anyone's radat.
It’s not difficult to understand why, as the sophomore quarterback at The Bolles School didn’t get enough playing time for college coaches to notice. Sure, Jones was on a very good seven-on-seven team in Jacksonville, Fla., and he made his way around to camps.
But six years before the New England Patriots took Jones with the No. 15 pick in the NFL Draft, the rail-thin, baby-faced teenager was anonymous on the recruiting circuit.
So he took control of his situation and sent a direct message to the Twitter account of Rivals, a site that covers college football recruiting. On the afternoon of March 12, 2015, just after school let out, Jones told them he was a 6-foot-2, 175-pounder — what, you’ve never exaggerated on the internet? — and was hoping Rivals would set up a profile to get him onto the recruiting map.
This wasn’t an uncommon tactic by any stretch of the imagination.
“We get a ton of them, honestly,” Woody Wommack of Rivals said. “The fact that someone replied to Mac is like an upset because we get tons of them.
“It’s like a running joke between the recruiting crew that anytime a college coach tweets anything — it could be a picture of his wife and kids like, ‘Happy Easter’ — and kids reply, ‘Hey, coach, check out my film.’ They try. A lot of kids try.”
Whoever was in charge of the Rivals account that day suggested Jones reach out to Wommack. The only problem?
“He doesn’t follow me back for some reason,” Jones wrote back.
Jones persisted. Wommack, the southeast recruiting analyst at the time, was at a seven-on-seven tournament a few weeks later when Jones spotted him and introduced himself. Wommack instantly warmed up to Jones’ infectious personality.
Shortly thereafter, Rivals invited Jones to its first camp, which hosted 100 quarterbacks as a way to get to know them, their recruiting stories and put them through comparable drills. Trevor Lawrence, a recruiting superstar since the eighth grade whom the Jacksonville Jaguars chose first in the NFL Draft on Thursday, was also at that camp.
“The reason Mac got invited (was) because we needed 100 quarterbacks,” Wommack said. “There aren’t 100 Power 5 quarterbacks between Florida and Georgia, but we need people to fill the event. So that’s why he got invited.”
Jones then got an offer from Kentucky after an impressive camp and became the full-time starter at Bolles as a junior when he also hit a growth spurt. His stock began to take off in spring 2016, a year after his Hail Mary DM.
Jones won the MVP award at a regional Rivals camp in Orlando, Fla., where 200 of the nation’s top recruits were rubbing shoulders. Then he talked his way into a second Rivals camp, and he excelled again.
But this was actually rare because premium recruits tend to spread out a little bit more.
“You usually only come to one of these camps,” Wommack said. “But Mac talked his way into a second one, then came and did so well that it was like, OK, I guess we have to invite Mac to our five-star challenge, which is our marquee event. It’s the 100 best players in the country, even though he was not at that point. He was a four-star, but it’s the five-star challenge. We’re trying to get the eight best quarterbacks in the country. Mac kind of forced his way into the conversation.”
He won the MVP there, too. A day later, Jones attended a quarterbacks-only camp, which featured Davis Mills — now a third-round pick of the Houston Texans — and won the MVP again.
“Mac was fiercely loyal to us from the get-go,” Wommack said. “He was around so much from that time until he left that he was almost like part of our crew of 15 people because he was at our events every other week, it seemed like. He went through a string where he won four or five MVPs.
“He was around so much that he felt like an employee or one of the people who was working the camps. He gets to know everybody, though. He’s inquisitive of how things work. He’s going to get to know the registration staff and the people handing out the T-shirts. He’s going to know their name. He’s also going to give you shit and keep you on your toes. He’s going to tease you.”
Then Jones set his focus on another marquee event. Rivals held a quarterback competition with the top players in the country, and Jones made it his sole priority — not just to win, but also to beat Lawrence.
It was Jones’ way of proving that he belonged in the conversation among the top quarterbacks in his class, and there was no better way to do it than to take down a generational prospect.
The competition involved a variety of throws into nets — 25 yards to the corner of the end zone, roll right and throw toward the sideline, roll left and do the same, and on and on. Each net had a tight window.
Jones was so serious about winning that he had a net to set up in his backyard. He practiced relentlessly, even noticing the importance of aiming slightly high to give the ball a more generous angle to sink the throw.
Of course, Jones crushed the final round against Lawrence and won the competition.
“It’s hard to make it into the nets, and he’s cranking them in there over and over again,” Wommack said.
Jones was always confident in himself even when that belief wasn’t reciprocated on the recruiting circuit. When he didn’t get any attention from coaches at Georgia’s camp, Jones playfully hollered for Wommack to get some good action shots of him. When Rivals ranked a quarterback ahead of him — pick any random player from any state — Jones would find his film and take a jab at Wommack for getting it wrong.
As Jones’ stock ascended, though, Alabama coach Nick Saban offered Jones a scholarship, and he committed before his senior year. Even that decision raised eyebrows because Jones would have to compete for playing time against Jalen Hurts and Tua Tagovailoa.
Jones had it all mapped out. He’d bide his time and eventually win the job, which is exactly how it all went down. He completed 77.4 percent of his passes last season for 4,500 yards, 41 touchdowns and four interceptions for the undefeated national champions, and the Patriots tabbed him as their quarterback of the future.
“When you get to know Mac,” Wommack said, “you’ll see he has this supreme confidence in himself.”
Relentless. Perseverance. Driven. All qualities we've seen before.
Jesus! I think we have a baller here!
How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Jones was a too-scrawny kid who couldn't even get the recruiting website to notice him. So here's how he changed that.
How Mac Jones, long before Patriots found him, willed his way onto the recruiting circuit
Mac Jones wasn't on anyone's radat.
It’s not difficult to understand why, as the sophomore quarterback at The Bolles School didn’t get enough playing time for college coaches to notice. Sure, Jones was on a very good seven-on-seven team in Jacksonville, Fla., and he made his way around to camps.
But six years before the New England Patriots took Jones with the No. 15 pick in the NFL Draft, the rail-thin, baby-faced teenager was anonymous on the recruiting circuit.
So he took control of his situation and sent a direct message to the Twitter account of Rivals, a site that covers college football recruiting. On the afternoon of March 12, 2015, just after school let out, Jones told them he was a 6-foot-2, 175-pounder — what, you’ve never exaggerated on the internet? — and was hoping Rivals would set up a profile to get him onto the recruiting map.
This wasn’t an uncommon tactic by any stretch of the imagination.
“We get a ton of them, honestly,” Woody Wommack of Rivals said. “The fact that someone replied to Mac is like an upset because we get tons of them.
“It’s like a running joke between the recruiting crew that anytime a college coach tweets anything — it could be a picture of his wife and kids like, ‘Happy Easter’ — and kids reply, ‘Hey, coach, check out my film.’ They try. A lot of kids try.”
Whoever was in charge of the Rivals account that day suggested Jones reach out to Wommack. The only problem?
“He doesn’t follow me back for some reason,” Jones wrote back.
Jones persisted. Wommack, the southeast recruiting analyst at the time, was at a seven-on-seven tournament a few weeks later when Jones spotted him and introduced himself. Wommack instantly warmed up to Jones’ infectious personality.
Shortly thereafter, Rivals invited Jones to its first camp, which hosted 100 quarterbacks as a way to get to know them, their recruiting stories and put them through comparable drills. Trevor Lawrence, a recruiting superstar since the eighth grade whom the Jacksonville Jaguars chose first in the NFL Draft on Thursday, was also at that camp.
“The reason Mac got invited (was) because we needed 100 quarterbacks,” Wommack said. “There aren’t 100 Power 5 quarterbacks between Florida and Georgia, but we need people to fill the event. So that’s why he got invited.”
Jones then got an offer from Kentucky after an impressive camp and became the full-time starter at Bolles as a junior when he also hit a growth spurt. His stock began to take off in spring 2016, a year after his Hail Mary DM.
Jones won the MVP award at a regional Rivals camp in Orlando, Fla., where 200 of the nation’s top recruits were rubbing shoulders. Then he talked his way into a second Rivals camp, and he excelled again.
But this was actually rare because premium recruits tend to spread out a little bit more.
“You usually only come to one of these camps,” Wommack said. “But Mac talked his way into a second one, then came and did so well that it was like, OK, I guess we have to invite Mac to our five-star challenge, which is our marquee event. It’s the 100 best players in the country, even though he was not at that point. He was a four-star, but it’s the five-star challenge. We’re trying to get the eight best quarterbacks in the country. Mac kind of forced his way into the conversation.”
He won the MVP there, too. A day later, Jones attended a quarterbacks-only camp, which featured Davis Mills — now a third-round pick of the Houston Texans — and won the MVP again.
“Mac was fiercely loyal to us from the get-go,” Wommack said. “He was around so much from that time until he left that he was almost like part of our crew of 15 people because he was at our events every other week, it seemed like. He went through a string where he won four or five MVPs.
“He was around so much that he felt like an employee or one of the people who was working the camps. He gets to know everybody, though. He’s inquisitive of how things work. He’s going to get to know the registration staff and the people handing out the T-shirts. He’s going to know their name. He’s also going to give you shit and keep you on your toes. He’s going to tease you.”
Then Jones set his focus on another marquee event. Rivals held a quarterback competition with the top players in the country, and Jones made it his sole priority — not just to win, but also to beat Lawrence.
It was Jones’ way of proving that he belonged in the conversation among the top quarterbacks in his class, and there was no better way to do it than to take down a generational prospect.
The competition involved a variety of throws into nets — 25 yards to the corner of the end zone, roll right and throw toward the sideline, roll left and do the same, and on and on. Each net had a tight window.
Jones was so serious about winning that he had a net to set up in his backyard. He practiced relentlessly, even noticing the importance of aiming slightly high to give the ball a more generous angle to sink the throw.
Of course, Jones crushed the final round against Lawrence and won the competition.
“It’s hard to make it into the nets, and he’s cranking them in there over and over again,” Wommack said.
Jones was always confident in himself even when that belief wasn’t reciprocated on the recruiting circuit. When he didn’t get any attention from coaches at Georgia’s camp, Jones playfully hollered for Wommack to get some good action shots of him. When Rivals ranked a quarterback ahead of him — pick any random player from any state — Jones would find his film and take a jab at Wommack for getting it wrong.
As Jones’ stock ascended, though, Alabama coach Nick Saban offered Jones a scholarship, and he committed before his senior year. Even that decision raised eyebrows because Jones would have to compete for playing time against Jalen Hurts and Tua Tagovailoa.
Jones had it all mapped out. He’d bide his time and eventually win the job, which is exactly how it all went down. He completed 77.4 percent of his passes last season for 4,500 yards, 41 touchdowns and four interceptions for the undefeated national champions, and the Patriots tabbed him as their quarterback of the future.
“When you get to know Mac,” Wommack said, “you’ll see he has this supreme confidence in himself.”
Even CNN getting in on the Bama-Patriots connection with the Tides biggest fam, Caitlin Collins.
The #rollPatriots hashtag is gaining traction.
View: https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1389183467867590661
The #rollPatriots hashtag is gaining traction.
View: https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1389183467867590661
What Jones does should be very familiar to Patriots fans
Lazar details why BB wanted this QB
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Lazar details why BB wanted this QB
Lazar: Why the Patriots Opted for QB Mac Jones Over Trading Up for Justin Fields - CLNS Media
The connection between the Patriots and new quarterback Mac Jones was evident long before New England selected him in the first round on Thursday night, yet it was hardly discussed in the lead-up to the draft. Former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis said that Jones was the best fit...
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I agree. I made this comp several months ago.
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People are going to shit on Pennington, but if he was able to stay healthy the Jets would have gave us alot more problems while he was there....remember during two of his healthy years this teams actually took the division.
Excellent comparison. I think Pennington could move a little more though than Jones. I think Jones success will depend on how much he can further develop his arm. Similar to Pennington, he does not have a strong arm, he was by far the weakest of the 5 QBs but he throws well with anticipation and accuracy. If he can get stronger than he will take things to another level with his development. The money down is third and long for any QB, and you need to be able to rifle it in with small windows to make those plays happen. If he can do that and do it consistently than it will be huge for him and us.
Even with the injuries the Chadster was the best QB in Jets history, if he had been able to stay healthy he would have been a solid cornerstone QB, consistent top 10.